IKnowPhysics

Really? Really?

So net trade: Pominville, Stafford, Leopold, Sekera, Brennan for O'Reilly, Frk, Shagg, Rask, 1st, 3rd, conditional 2nd Can't wait to see this year's record.

Here's what folks are kicking around like they're facts: http://bleacherrepor...ut-ryan-oreilly Sounds like NYR was willing to go Del Zotto for O'Reilly straight up, and Avs wanted another prospect (likely one that was a former 1st round pick- Miller was 15th overall, Kreider 19th), and NYR said nope. So if you believe that some team will pay what NYR declined to give, then my hopeful trade gets a little funnier. If you believe NYR just set the market by refusing Del Zotto+1st rounder, Stafford+2nd stays within the bounds of taste. As I mentioned years ago in this thread, the equivalent of two first round picks for O'Reilly is borderline lunacy, and I'm kind of glad NYR recognized that.

Heard it was Avalanche that called NY about Del Zotto + pick and didn't want to package another player/pick with O'Reilly, and that's when the Rangers hung up.

But I'd happily take a 2nd over nothing.

Nevar! Just kidding, I'd happily part with Stafford and the equivalent of a 2nd round prospect/pick (except Jake McCabe) for O'Reilly and a 4th.

If Cody stays and Hecht stays, Grigorenko doesn't get much ice time. Ehrhoff isn't going anywhere. Enzo shouldn't be going anywhere.

Conspiracy theory time! Fascinating. Since this was the last game of the home stand, that means the scouts were likely here to watch this Sabres game and this game only. Seeing as how Leopold was scratched for the first time this season, and Brennan played his first game in 10 days, I'd say Brennan has a huge target on his back. Leopold may either be a known quantity or is not gathering much interest with those teams.

Actually, yes, I would. BUT it'd be worthwhile (and funny) to consider that Colorado management doesn't actually know what it's doing. Blue knows what's up. I suppose you could summarize my point this way, although it's a little simplistic: Depending on how you value Hodgson, Ennis is our 4th best forward. If we trade him to get O'Reilly, O'Reilly (hopefully) would become our 4th best forward, but we've traded away at least a moderately good prospect to do that. To me, Ennis for O'Reilly is still a wash and you've traded a high-skill guy for a two-way guy. Stafford, Gerbe, perhaps Foligno, et al, are not our 4th best forwards, so if you trade them instead, you likely improved the top six, and that improvement could be worth the cost of a moderately good to very good prospect.

Actually, yes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sX2cP5QqVU Journeyman center, had pretty good numbers in the A, but never translated fully to the NHL. Played for 3 NHL teams and 2 AHL teams last season alone. Now playing in the K.

Feel like we could fleece someone for a later 1st round pick in exchange for Leopold and a 3rd round pick.

Not a jam, not until Grigs/Girgs are ready. It also wouldn't kill Foligno or Stafford to play the 3rd line. We need the highest quality players playing as much as possible. If that comes at the expense of Ennis moving to wing, or current 4th liners playing less, those are easy choices. Plus, if Hodgson or O'Reilly went down with injury for some reason, Ennis is versatile enough to step right in if Grigs/Girgs weren't ready yet.

Holy ######, about ###### time. Initially in the season, he was getting big minutes because he was the only defenseman besides Ehrhoff that was taking care of the puck, despite egregiously misreading defensive plays, and he actually had maybe two games where he improved a little. But then about three games ago, both of those elements of his game got worse- he started causing turnovers and reading the play worse. I think the confident ability to scratch him has come from Myers' recent improvement and Regehr's return to health. I would absolutely not be surprised if Brennan plays on the powerplay tonight and a major part of the game plan is to murder Winnipeg with their 65.9% PK.

I knew this to be true. But I thought there was an exception for deflections; there is, but only for a the specific case of a defender clearing the puck out and deflecting off a defender back into the defensive zone: Also, if the play is initially ruled as a delayed offsides, then the puck needs to be passed or carried back in. (not the case here)

Only 7.7% chance of making the playoffs? Team troubles aside, we're only 4 points out of 8th with 32 games to play.

If that puck touches one of the Nashville D in the neutral zone, it's not offsides. The puck changes direction in the neutral zone, but after watching it a dozen times, I still can't tell if it makes contact with a player (22's hands/stick?) or if it changes direction on the bounce.

SI feels the same way, calling for the Sabres to either go at least 3-2 or go back to the drawing board.

Math is overrated anyways.

Short answer: not that I've seen. But everyone knows he's asking Colorado for a contract that's more than 3 years in length and, at least by Colorado's standards, significantly more than $3.5M per year- enough that they haven't been able to come to agreement. If someone were to offer sheet, $4.5-5.00M would be the best guess for getting him for fair compensatory return while getting Colorado not to match.

I genuinely hope that whenever Darcy's done with the Sabres, that he writes a book accounting the interesting times. I'd like to see a chapter devoted to the art of trading players and the almost deals that never were.

Thread title should be 19-9-4 (or 18-8-6 or 20-10-2), as we've played 16 games for 13 points and "need" to beat 54.4points (93 point pace on 82 games).

You wanted to equate us right here:

So you trash me for looking for positives and trash him for pointing out negatives. Do consciously process your hypocrisy before you post or is it a better read to pretend to be surprised when it's pointed out to you? In any case, a player that plays well in a game and is let down by a lack of effort from teammates can rightfully call out said teammates, and in some situations, it's appropriate to do it publicly. Happens all the time. Ruff called out his goaltending (what he he ever won?), Miller responded. Miller calls out his team, let's see what happens.

Last time they fought: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdicuYZuUFc

Any ###### coach in any sport will tell you that you have to find positives in a win or a loss and build on them and try to solve the problems that slow you down. Loser's mentality. ###### you.