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  1. 4 hours ago, Brawndo said:

    Your theory is they are chill bros.

    That’s part of it. Far from all of it. 

    And yes, all NHL players have done incredible things and sacrificed greatly to get to where they are. Congratulations to all of them.

    As a cohort, they all still shake out along a continuum. This isn’t Lake Wobegon. Not every NHL’er is above average.

    I guess I’m glad (?) to have precipitated so many responses. I think there’s a nuanced conversation to be had on the topic of who and what this roster is (and maybe isn’t), and whether GM KA is more an assembler of talent than he is a builder of a (good) team.

  2. 1 hour ago, Sabres73 said:

    Marner didn't say he thinks they're "gods", he said they're looked on by Leafs fans as gods, which is basically true. The whole thing is the exact thing that happened to The Beatles when John Lennon said they were "bigger than Jesus", which was true with teenagers at the time. The whole thing is ridiculous.

    True for Marner? True for this Leaf team generally?

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  3. 1 hour ago, Thorny said:

    It’s generally interesting to me how often you see “but all the other teams do so and so” used as reasoning for expected or desired conduct when the Sabres have so thoroughly proven themselves the outlier to which the usual does not apply, over a large sample size.

    This statement itself is a generalization but basically I’m just saying I don’t think the Sabres have the luxury of yielding to anything just because “that’s the way it is”.

    Up to and including things like the unusualness of dealing a prized prospect in the name of winning now, etc etc etc. Just to use an example of another area this logic theoretically applies 

    Posters are picking me up here. I’ve been somewhat inarticulate on this subject on this go around (although I’ve explained it better elsewhere). 

    I feel like I was getting a proverbial “nothing to see here.”

    To which I say: Nah. There are things to see. And changes that need to occur.

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  4. 1 hour ago, ... said:

    Is it something like a concern that they may believe that, as individuals, they have already won (the contracts) and that they are mutually reinforcing the "spirit" behind that mindset, which ultimately is dangerous for a lockerroom because that weak, selfish spirit can spread faster than a spirit bent on fully committing to competitiveness?

    🎶 and it feels good - to be known - so well 🎶 

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  5. 22 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

    Well in my defense, this sentence is nonsensical. 

    "Do you likewise find pics of one young centre who got a 7-8 year deal based on a small sample size (career year?) congratulating a younger teammate (also a centre) who similarly got extended (big term, small sample size, big year) on a team that missed the playoffs and then regressed and a franchise that is continually setting a record for playoff futility?"

    Are you asking if we can find other pics of two teammates drinking on a beach after signing contracts? 

    It’s a run on, for sure. But most of what you need is there.

    The picture is, to me, suggestive of a (metaphysical?) problem that I think will plague this team. 

    The fact that other NHL players take a similar photo is irrelevant, to me. That is, perhaps, unless they are on a team with a similar problem.

  6. 41 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

    If you scroll through Instagram during the All Star Break you will find pictures of players from all over the league enjoying the sun with teammates. 
     

    The NHL even highlights some of pictures on their account 

    Do you likewise find pics of one young centre who got a 7-8 year deal based on a small sample size (career year?) congratulating a younger teammate (also a centre) who similarly got extended (big term, small sample size, big year) on a team that missed the playoffs and then regressed and a franchise that is continually setting a record for playoff futility?

    Context matters.

    And my theory and point go beyond the mere fact that they’re pictured in the Caribbean together.

    I want to be proven wrong. I want them to grow up, get tougher, become more accountable, maybe even become a bit less chummy with each other (?). I’m not optimistic — not yet anyway.

    Oh, and shoutout @Demoted: THIS is a narrative. It’s mine, for now.

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  7. 2 hours ago, dudacek said:

    Do the holiday pictures on the feeds of the kids in your personal circle contain shots of them enjoying good times in the sun?

    Are they all (presumably entitled and non-committed) chill bros?

    Will the existence and sharing of this picture have more or less impact on the hockey success of Tage Thompson than pictures of Rasmus Ristolainen flipping tires?

    I have a theory that the Sabres have too many of the same kinds of guy — that they’re too comfortable and too cozy with each other. That photo is, to me, emblematic of that theory.

    A theory.

    I also don’t think what my kids or kids I know are putting on IG has any relevance to the issue.

  8. 3 hours ago, Jorcus said:

    Ducking a check on the wall (if it was a duck) is bad form but anything to stop the Truba's goon moves are welcome. 

    Ducking a body check may be bad form, but ducking a match penalty for elbowing seems fine by me.

    3 hours ago, inkman said:

    Bad form?  He saved himself from getting taken off the ice on a stretcher.  

    I mean, holy hell.

  9. 3 hours ago, SwampD said:

    He might not be very good, but do people really believe that Jeff Skinner doesn’t play with heart? I find that weird. Early in the season, I felt that he was often the only one on the Sabres that played with any.

    He can certainly look busy out there.

    For the most part, it's sound and fury signifying nothing.

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  10. 2 hours ago, Demoted said:

    You ran out of narrative facts?

    At no point in this exchange have I pushed "a narrative" regarding Diggs. I've asked that we hew to the facts.

    Also: NARRATIVES INCOMING!

    2 hours ago, Demoted said:

    Diggs became a cancer who would rather go to Coachella instead of being with his team.

    +++

    2 hours ago, MISabresFan said:

    I hope his play is half as good as this interview.  Agree, he seems like a special person, night and day difference from Diggs.

    At this point, I might even take his play being 40% as good as his interview vibes. At least for starters. He is a ray of goofy sunshine.

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  11. 28 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

    No, actually I think the Greek gods thing holds up.  The gods of Greek mythology were frequently fallible.

    Lol - I am sure that Marner had that nuance in mind when he likened himself and his teammates to gods.

    26 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

    I think the term you're looking for is "Jeff Skinner."

    He is an unserious professional hockey player, that's for sure.

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  12. 26 minutes ago, Demoted said:

    8 100 yard games in the past 25 games is not good for a guy who was supposed to be the number 1 WR.

    IMO, this is what you should have said initially. He wasn't "bad" for the past 1.5 seasons. He'd had games and even windows of time where he was a true 1 WR. 

    27 minutes ago, Demoted said:

    The facts are real he disappeared in the playoffs and dropped a ton of passes.

    Over that same 1.5 seasons, he had a 7/110+ line against Miami in that wildcard game. He stunk out loud against the Bengals, as did the entire team, really. This past season, he was definitely a non-factor. Did he drop a ton of passes in the playoffs? He definitely dropped one biggie. I think that was the straw that broke the camel's back and prompted the team to move on.

    32 minutes ago, Demoted said:

    Shakir outperformed Diggs down the stretch.

    F'sho. We need him to continue to be that guy in 2024.

    32 minutes ago, Demoted said:

    I guess you don't like facts a narrative when it's they don't not supported by your narrative facts.

    It took some doing, but I FTFY.

  13. 51 minutes ago, Demoted said:

    You mean disappearing in the playoffs and dropping a ton of passes last year? Yes... it does.

    No, I meant what I typed upthread.

    I'm not here to stump for the guy. I am, however, here to ask for fairness and accuracy when people proffer facts. I get the sense you're not into those things.

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  14. 1 hour ago, Thorny said:

    I feel like the reaction to his quote is somewhat blown out of proportion. Isn’t the reaction somewhat due to that thing everyone seems to hate where, the quiet part gets said out loud? He’s getting lambasted for essentially telling the truth? He’s not a complete dunce, he’s not using “god” in the sense of benevolent lords, but more so using that word, in a pinch, in more of the greek god sense. A little bit more dime a dozen but still nonetheless endlessly talked about as the centre of a mythology. Players in Toronto ARE the centre of attention 

    the gotcha on using the term gods is IMHO sort of feeble 

    In that at least to me his meaning was rather obvious 

    There's merit to what you're saying. But I think the crux of the problem here is that Marner was making an observation that is often true, would be freely and widely admitted as true, but is not true at the moment. And one of the main reasons it's not quite true and not quite accurate, at the moment, is because of Marner himself.

    That's the sense I get from Leaf fans online, anyway. Reactions in the nature of "Dougie Gilmour? Wendel Clark? Darryl Sitler? Mats Sundin? Yeah, bud. THOSE guys are Leaf gods. YOU? YOU?! Bro, get a hold of yourself. You're not one of our hockey gods. You're a pigeon."

    I don't know if I used "pigeon" correctly there. But you get the idea.

    Edit: "Pigeon" is absolutely not what I'm looking for here- I looked it up. I need a hockey insult for someone who's a high-end talent with no heart. There may not be a hockey term that fits.

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  15. Marner is rightly getting buried for that comment.

    Part of me wants to chalk it up to him being a hockey player and hockey players not being the most articulate cohort.

    OTOH, there's so many different things he could say there. Simpler things. "Obviously, you're playing in Toronto, this is a town where your fans just live and die with the team. Hockey's so, so important here. So we have a lot to live up to."

    And so on. But he went with "we're ... kind of gods." By which, I think, he just meant "we're gods."

    From everything I see, the fan base wants him gone.

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