Dr. Who
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No idea where the post is coming from. I thought it was a joke or a drunken Flyers' fan behind it. Said Power for Hart, Grans, and 2024 CBJ 2nd.
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1 minute ago, Thorny said:
But you said Rosen is a comparable in value, for you, and you think he’s worth at least a 1st. Considering the Flyers are reportedly not shopping Hart, if their evaluation lines up with yours I’d imagine they’d also have the barometer at at least a first.
Is the implication of your last sentence that Hart is just more of the same to what we have in UPL and Comrie or am I misreading that
I was confused by the latter part of your last post that was talking about a compensation of a UPL-like goalie, a second, etc. I guess I'd really rather go after Saros or Hellebuyck if I am going to end up spending a first round prospect that I am at least somewhat high on. (Though I read on another site that the ask for Hellebuyck is 13OA, Krebs, and UPL or Levi straight up. Don't know where that is coming from, but it sounds like Winnipeg is not being reasonable.) I like Hart better as part of a package that includes Helge Grans. Straight up, he's probably worth more than I want to pay for him.
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4 minutes ago, Thorny said:
I think this is still too low but, going with it, is Rosen still worth the first round pick we used to get him?
Or would you deal him for a 2nd, a UPL ish goalie? What about if they REALLY wanted to get your attention, by throwing in a 6th round pick, not this draft, but the next. How bout now?
I'm starting to think Rosen may live up to his draft pick. I'm only interested in a true upgrade in goal, so no packages that are sending back what I already have are of interest.
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3 minutes ago, Thorny said:
Thanks for this. So, a bonafide starting goalie who was about 15th out of 107 last year by the advanced metrics, who played over 50 NHL games last season, is worth roughly a prospect, mid pair d-man who might be an NHLer, in a few years. Just trying to take the temperature, this definitely suffices
I think Rosen is closer to the answer, but I may overvalue goalie at this point. (And I don't want to trade Rosen, nor do I want to actually give the Flyers equal value. I want to fleece them, but if I can't do that, pay as little as possible.)
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2 minutes ago, nfreeman said:
It just seems like there's more of a numbers game at DE now with Floyd, Von and Rousseau as the clear top 3. Keeping all of AJE, Boogie and Shaq would mean 6 DEs, which doesn't seem likely. I suppose they could try to address it by moving on from one of the DTs, but it seems more likely, and in keeping with BB's history, that they'll try to get a draft pick for one of the DEs.
Totally agree on WR and OL. They are dying for another stud opposite Diggs, and I don't think Davis has the goods. The other guys seem like they could be decent #3 or #4 guys, but none of them seems like a worthy #2. They do have 2 good weapons at TE, so hopefully they can develop an offense that utilizes the TE more than they've done previously.
Agree on most of this. Kincaid as big slot is a hybrid. He's not just a big WR, but he's different than a conventional TE. I hear you on the DE vs. DT thing. My speculation there is largely based on my sense that Settle was pretty underwhelming in terms of what I think they hoped to get out of him. Also, you can move Shaq inside on certain situations. All the same, probably a DE gets moved.
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31 minutes ago, Night Train said:
Neglecting WR ? I don't know about that narrative. Brought in a lot . Kincaid is a slot WR with a TE designatiion. A rookie but they had nothing in the middle of the field last year. Brought in Sherfield, Harty. Drafted Shakir and Shorter in the last 2 drafts. Davis had the high ankle sprain all year.
I get the thinking. None compare to the Hopkins...of old. But legit concerns with him now. Missed half his games with Cardinals with suspensions and injuries. Reportedly asked out of practicing even when healthy. Asked for trade. Won't play for peanuts, after watching OBJ get 15 Mil. Bills are now over the ever changing Cap by 3 Mil, according to Beane. Seems like they are kicking a lot of cans down the road cap wise already. We'll see but I'm not morphing into some imaginary funk if Hopkins isn't a Bill.
I understand about Kincaid. On the football side of this forum I was pushing for his selection six weeks before the draft. I liked him better than the conventional WRs available. So I was very happy with the pick, but Beane has generally used premium picks elsewhere. No one is "morphing into some imaginary funk" over Hopkins. He would be a nice add. I think Kincaid will emerge as a threat the opposing D needs to account for. I would not count on that his rookie year, though he has the talent to make that happen. In that respect, it would be optimal to sign Hopkins to a short-term deal so that Diggs is harder to double, especially in the playoffs where he has disappeared recently. As is, this should be a much more versatile offense provided Dorsey is up to the challenge of incorporating the run game into a coherent attack and using all the weapons.
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5 hours ago, nfreeman said:
I like the Floyd signing and assume it means curtains for either Epenesa or Basham, probably via trade for something like a 4th-rounder next year.
I also like the Oliver extension, and Oliver generally, although I think his play tailed off last year, possibly due to injury.
I still want another good WR.
Settle might get traded, though it probably ought to be Basham. Epenesa is a lunch pail guy, but I think he had 6.5 sacks last year so he's last one in at the moment, imo. Some folks suggest Lawson, but he sets the edge well and is generally a solid rotation fella. Phillips is another one I would consider. He is a flashy dim and doesn't take care of himself so gets hurt, often on bonehead plays.
Neglecting receiver and getting oline wrong are this regime's recurring issues, criminal with a franchise qb like Josh. Davis is low end WR2. Hopkins may have lost a step, but he is the opposite of Davis. Catches everything, but probably best at this point on short and intermediate routes. I think Beane would find the money if Hopkins were willing to come in around a threshold he is comfortable with. Don't know who else is out there that is worth more than what we have. Some speculate Mike Evans could be on the trading block, but I surmise that is just folk's conjecture because the Bucs are rebuilding and figure to be bad for a few years.
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28 minutes ago, Marvin said:
Fans of Winnipeg and Calgary think DeMelo and Hanifin respectively are available. Both team are looking for up-and-coming talent with term and some futures. I imagine that include Jokiharu.
Addendum: would Adams be willing to add two defencemen at that level? That would make the defence pretty formidable.
Perhaps I have been habituated to lowered expectations, but I will be relieved if KA grabs one. Two would certainly make the D more credible, assuming they are intent on actually incorporating a coherent defensive system.
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1 hour ago, Standing Room Smoking Cigs said:
I don't know going all in on an outside goalie is the end all for the drought. I have to look at Jack Campbell in Edmonton as a warning. Campbell didn't cost Edmonton drat picks, prospects... but they spent some serious cash against the cap. He certainly wasn't worth 5 year/5 Million AVG this year. That contract will also drag on Edmonton as they are hard up against the cap. Bobrovsky wasn't playing the down the stretch in the Panthers late season run to make the playoffs. Adin Hill was 4th on the depth chart in Vegas. Far better to get a top 4 defenseman if you're considering giving up assets. The Sabres can absorb giving up 2 to 3 goals a game, giving the their offensive talent... it is the top 4 defensmen that are going to make the difference in wins and losses in my opinion.
You'd have to figure how much you can spend allowing for extensions to core players and how the Sabres plan on managing the cap going forward, but I think you could get a veteran goalie and acquire a top 4 D without requiring particularly unusual effort or luck. Teams up against the cap may create trade partners. Maybe you pry a Hanifin or DeMelo away for an acceptable price. There are quality FAs available to bolster the blueline. No reason KA cannot do both. Still think you could add Hellebuyck, Graves, and DeMelo, just as an example, for a combination of picks and prospects that leaves the top prospects out of the equation.
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17 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:
Maybe Adams was legitimately interested in Gibson. It is, however, counter to everything Adams has said and done in building the team thus far. He simply has shown no interest in taking on a veteran player with lots of term and a high AAV. Indeed, he has said on multiple occasions that it is important that he and the organization know a player before they make that kind of a commitment to an individual.
My opinion is that the hockey world in general looks at the Sabres and assumes they will do what the hockey world in general does. There is no veteran starting goalie in Buffalo and thus the Sabres will be in on any veteran goalie who might make them better in the short-term. This is why the connection to Gibson is made and now to Hellebuyck as well, I think.
There is little to no chance, from what Adams has said and done, that the Sabres are interested in acquiring Gibson (high AAV, lots of term, declining performance) or Hellebuyck (high acquisition cost, one year to UFA with an extension that would require a high AAV over a long-term while also blocking Levi). If Adams acquires either player it will mean he has had a 180 degree shift in his plan for building the roster.
My recollection is that in the year-end interview Adams was asked about going young in net and his answer was that the organization's philosophy on this was to be "fearless". All signs point to Levi/UPL as our goalies.
I think that kind of fearless is unwise. At minimum, he should bring in a veteran goalie to split starts with Levi. If Levi was more proven, UPL could reasonably develop into a competent backup. We'll see how it plays out. Every successful GM has to have some poker player in him. I just doubt Adams has stated everything he's thinking for public consumption.
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17 minutes ago, French Collection said:
FTR I am OK with getting Hellebuyck. Not all of these prospects will get to play in Buffalo.
There may already be discussions about a possible extension, lots of cloak and dagger stuff. They are not supposed to but I am sure there are ways.
If not, they have a whole year to figure out if it is a good fit. The development of Levi could be a key to the term.
Maybe 13 for 18, Rosen and UPL gets it done. Sabres get to have a first rounder, maybe Simashev.
13, UPL and a B prospect would be my preferred package, but I am on the side of those who think Hellebuyck is worth the expenditure. Your alternative is interesting. Simashev at 18 is a nice play.
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2 minutes ago, Thorny said:
Go on..
Once upon a time there was a girl from Nantucket.
That's all I got.
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I guess I'll have to stop disliking him, but I still suspect he has a Little Lord Fauntleroy attitude.
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2 hours ago, Archie Lee said:
Thomas Vanek had the best speculative explanation I have heard. He was on After the Whistle speaking on the subject a couple of weeks back. Vanek pointed out that as Johnson becomes a UFA Aug 15th, he can wait and see how the draft and free agency period shakes out. He basically has the luxury of waiting, scoping out the NHL landscape with regards to player depth and pick a place where he wants to go and where he has the best chance to be in the NHL this coming season. I hadn't thought of this until I heard it from Vanek. It makes sense. If the Sabres trade for a #4 at the draft and sign a 6-7 in free agency, then Johnson is likely Rochester bound (indeed, the Sabres may already have advised him that their plan is for him to be with the Amerks). There may be teams out there though, who advise Johnson he has a chance to be on the NHL roster and whose off-season defensive acquisitions/losses make clear that it is a legitimate possibility.
That's plausible, but let's try this hypothetical: would you rather be playing in the NHL for a bad team that has an immediate opening or be first call up from the AHL for an up-and-coming team that drafted you? I can understand the desire for options, but KA has been patient and treated him well so far as I can tell. That also ought to count for something. TIe should go to the team that drafted you, but maybe that is an outlandish thought nowadays.
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8 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:
Eichel looking like a conn Smyth candidate
Happy for him and Happy he brought the Sabres Tuch, Krebs and Kulich.
win win
Good for you. You and Thorny should form a Club and toast each other's superior maturity. The trade looks to have helped the Sabres. Still want Eichel to lose and absolutely do not want Eichel to get the Conn Smyth after the ROR experience. OTOH, KA can use it as a trade chip. If you take so-and-so, it might end with a Cup and a Conn Smythe winner.
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52 minutes ago, Marvin said:
Has there been any explanation for him not signing?
I have not heard any, but he is entering Jack Eichel territory with me.
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1 hour ago, Doohickie said:
At this point I've got nothing against the Stars. I have a problem with the league and its officiating, but the Stars were trying to win a Cup, same as the Sabres. The bad taste has more to do with officiating that with the other team.
That said, of the teams remaining I think my preference would be Panthers, Stars/Hurricanes, Seattle, VGK.
I more or less share that order of preference. I was in grad school at the University of Dallas for the 1999 Stanley Cup Finals. I have a friend from Edmonton, so we'd gone to root for the Oil in one of the nosebleeds earlier in the year. I previously had liked the Minnesota Northstars, so I had no preexisting animus. Fortunately, I have always been a brooding, melancholic fella, so no one noticed any difference in my behavior after the No Goal experience. I tried to explain to my roommate about the hockey, but he was a farm boy from Iowa and couldn't comprehend how all that was further proof that the universe was conspiring to screw Buffalo, NY out of championships. I know a few Catholic priests. Now that we actually might start to be good again, I'm wondering if there is a variant of exorcism that might work.
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10 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:
Not bothered at all.
The situation here was never going to work with Eichel, Reinhart, Risto etc driving the bus.
They were great players but the mix was never going to lead to success. I would make those trades 10/10 again.
Those guys went to teams with established cultures where they just had to blend in. Good for them but the culture and system Adams has built here is much better for the Sabres future success.
If Levi And Kulich hit like we think they will then that is a tremendous trade for Reinhart. Eichel for Tuch, Krebs, Östlund And Greenway is also great considering the situation they were in.
Agree with everything except the first sentence. I'm for Dallas, then Seattle, not for Vegas. Don't mind Florida. Carolina kind of irritates me, but they're a solid team. Just don't like Boston boy and I don't want him to win the Cup before us, so that is likely how it will play out.
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15 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
Oh come on, obviously you can't "prove" something that didn't happen would have happened BUT it's pretty obvious that lack of defensive depth and on occasion bad goaltending cost us a good 10-12 points (argue the number if you want but all we needed was 2)
Bit of a picky semantic thing here. So your assertion would be that 2 years ago nobody would sign with us, one year ago only a few would and now lots will, is that it?
The "myth" isn't busted, until it's busted. We will see what happens in July.
I'm not disagreeing with that. All I said was you can't really prove it, though the likelihood is evident.
As to the latter bit, I don't see it as a semantic quibble, but regardless, I do concur that this July should be telling. I've already said in an earlier conversation with you that if there are not, in fact, any significant FA signings, that I would reassess and that it would give credence to your continuing pessimism as to the league wide perception of the team. (I don't see how that is a rational evaluation of the team, but perception is not always rational.)
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15 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
Well ya, but isn't that just a long way of saying they made smart decisions and built the right way?
When these 30ish year olds are getting too old their draft choices could be ready to step in. Isn't that the way you're supposed to stay competitive?
We tore down but the difference is we chose to build back up with almost entirely young players or picks and added little in free agency. As a cap floor team we could have spent a little more and been a little better (and we didn't need to be a lot better to make the playoffs).
I think everyone knows the post-tank rebuild was mishandled. KA came in with a strategy that is largely working so far as I can tell. He could have spent more on FA and obviously it seems it would not have taken much when you miss the playoffs by one point. Since you can't prove a counter-factual, no one can know for sure.
And I don't recall many folks telling you it is a myth that FAs wouldn't sign here, though I haven't read through all the threads with close attention. That was a problem. Folks are telling you it shouldn't be a problem now, which is a different assertion.
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26 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Apparently there is a gap between games that are live and ones on demand when you can't find either on the site.
I've no idea about anything technical, nor do I have ESPN plus. I guess they don't value the lacrosse audience enough to make access clear which is unfortunate.
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3 hours ago, steveoath said:
As an event, I think the draft lottery is terrible. We don't have to look too far to see that it doesn't discourage tanking.
How could it be solved?
I am a big fan of of the so called "Golden Plan". As soon as you are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs you begin to collect points for a separate draft standing "table". Team that finishes with the most points on that table gets 1st OA and the rest of the 1-16 order is determined by the same method.
My 2nd favourite method would be using the same draft odds as we have. make a giant ball pool and fill it with balls that represent each teams odds for 1OA. Then all 16 general managers must dive into the pool to find a ball that has their team name stamped on it in tiny letters. The insert is determined by the order the GMs place their ball on some sort of plinth/podium.
Change the GMs to super models in bikinis designated for each team and you've got a ratings bonanza.
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52 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I tried to find the game Friday and couldn't. I thought the series starts tonight.
All the games in the series are apparently on ESPN+ only.
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36 minutes ago, ubkev said:
I hate the knights jerseys.
Mustard yellow is just an ugly color. Preds have the same issue with the addition of a crest logo with such a hyperbolic front tooth the beast is grotesque.
Flyers working on a Carter Hart Trade
in The Aud Club
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I just copied it from the other site I look at. I don't have a source.
I don't think anyone would have a problem paying that price. I doubt Philly goes for it.