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  1. 15 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:

    Yes because Fantilli is being compared to them .

    Read up 

    I wasn’t saying he was. I was reacting your point that implied Franchise wingers = Franchise centers, and I was disagreeing. I did not declare that Fantilli was going to be a franchise center. If you don’t think he will be, why not just refute that, instead of making a completely separate point. 

  2. 3 hours ago, Buffalonill said:

    Hopefully he doesn't that award lost its meaning and how special it was .

    all you have to do is score a ton of points 

    If that was the case, why didn’t Roman Jodi win last year when he had 10 more points than Makar?

    or in 2021 with Tyson Barrie leading defenseman in points? 
     

    Or in 2019 with Brent Burns leading defenseman by 9 points and still losing

    or in 2018 when Hedman was 5th in scoring but won.

     

    Leading defenseman in points is special anyways, even though it doesn’t gurantee the Norris. 
     

    Something interesting to note: what was a better predictor of Norris winning was points+ +\-, which I tested for the past 5 years and each year was correct except 2020, in which Fox was 2nd.

     

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  3. Something not being mentioned in the above discussions: say we signed Dahlin for 8 years after his ELC. He ends up 29 when his contract ends. It would have been cheaper contract, but when it’s up we either re-sign with term or likely lose him. Now if we sign him for 8 after his contract ends, he will be 32 and a good age to move on from, or signed to a more reasonable deal. 

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  4. 3 hours ago, Flashsabre said:

    So there was that rumour about a week ago that the Sabres were looking at Josh Anderson. I wonder if it had legs.

    Maybe they are looking for another Tuch like winger with size that can bring wheels and can go retrieve pucks.  Would allow Tuch to drive a second line.

    I hope not. He’s overpaid. 

  5. 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said:

    You are all acting like this is normal hes 41 years old he looked  like Top 10 NHL Goalie last night .

     We all could be witnessing the tom brady of the NHL this year 

    Did you also watch Carter Hutton’s start to his first 2 seasons here and think he was a top 10 goalie? Hutton had more impressive games and tanked the rest of the season. 1 game is a horrible sample size for a goalie.

  6. 15 minutes ago, NAF said:

    Anyone else a bit upset re: Peterka over Hinnostroza and Bryson over Pilut? IMO both Peterka and Bryson looked terrible in preseason (though to be fair I wasn't really watching training camp practices or keeping up with info on twitter). I'll trust Donny Meatballs for now though, even though I think Hinnostroza and Pilut make the team better, at least in the short term.

    I think Bryson demonstrated that he belongs in the NHL last year even if his roll should be as a 6/7. I’d pick him over Fitzgerald and Pilut despite not a great pre-season. 
    JJP over Hiney is a more debatable call, as JJP has not proven himself in the NHL. Last year, JJP started slow in the AHL last year, and once he adjusted to the league he dominated. Granato definitely believes in development through exposure, and it seems that he values the growth JJP will have over the struggles we may see early on. It wouldn’t surprise me if Granato saw JJP as a borderline NHLer now but could be a strong 2nd liner by season end. 
     

    Of course, he also could think JJP is ready for that third line roll now, more so than Hiney. 

  7. 16 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

    The Norris Deal is an interesting comparison, and if he has outperformed Noriss it is only by a small margin:

    -Over the past 2 years, Norris has 52 goals in 125 games. Robertson has 58 goals in 128 games. Robertson has more assists, but both last year scored more goals than had assists.

    -Josh Norris is playing Center.  Like it or not, teams tend to value a guy who is a potential first line center a bit more than a potential first line winger with similar production.

    -The dollars per year are almost the same, the Norris deal might actually be cheaper long term as it is longer and will be less of a cap hit in later years in terms of percentage of cap.

    -They are both the same age

    -The only other difference is 'pedigree'.  Norris was a mid 1st round pick, Robertson was an early 2nd. 

    When you compare those 2 guys...their age....their production....the deal Robertson got is probably right where it should be based on Norris.

    I would definitely say it’s more than a small margin: over the last 2 years, Robertson had had 124 points in 125 games with 58 goals, compared to Norris’  90 points in 122 games and 52 goals. Robertson was averaging .25 more points per game than Norris, that’s not particularly close. (Pretty much the difference ppg wise of Tage Thompson and Okposo last year)

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