kas23
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Enroth's best value is being off this team. Do anything that's possible to get him off the team, even if it means cutting him for being 5 minutes late to practice. Who cares what we "get back" for him from another team, we'll be gaining a McEichel, Strom, or Hanifin.
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All of their first round picks have not been duds. Yakupov is the only dud. They all just play the same game, and Hall is the only one who appears able to do it an elite level. Both Eichel and McDavid play a game-changing elite level of hockey. They will change any franchise that takes them.
I know we want to suddenly convince ourselves that we can get into the top two via trade, but it's still not happening.
I guess "duds" was too strong of a word. I don't think they're busts, it's just Edm has accomplished nothing by having them. I'm sure they would flourish on decent teams, but it's just not happening in their current situation. That's why I'm not exactly convinced McEichel is suddenly going to cure all ills there. You place him on their current roster and they're still not going to playoffs.
As for a trade with Buffalo, I would still not trade Girgs+Risto/Zads/Myers+all 3 firsts for McEichel. That would effectively gut our team.
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EDM is in such a sorry state that one player, be it McDavid or Eichel, is not going to turn it around. They have been drafting top-6 forwards 1st overall forever and look where that has gotten them. Who would have thought all of the 1sts would have been duds? That team doesn't even need a makeover, it needs a complete facelift, from the top down. Trading the 1st/2nd overall for a complete haul of promising players, then taking Hanifin would likely do the job. Just take a look at the Lindros trade.
The Sabres have the assets to pull it off, but I wouldn't even want them giving up so much to get McEichel.
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Great Christmas gift last night as (i think) for the first time all 3 first round draft picks had a positive result for the Sabres. Plus we had Philly, Colorado, Carolina and Arizona pick up 2 points. Unfortuntaly there is nothing Santa can do about the Oilers who now have 1 win in their last 19 games -could they have made a deal with Satan? and no I don't mean Miro I listened to their post game radio show last - a lot of callers and the host excited about their positiion in the McEichel derby.
If McEichel goes anywhere besides Buffalo, I want him going to EDM. He'll be great there, but he still won't accomplish much there. That's my biggest worry about losing him, having to play against him in the playoffs every year.
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When everyone is back I think they will have to demote him unless they send Flynn down
They really should sell off some assets to try to keep Grigs and Armia up. I think their time has come and it wouldn't be detrimental to their development if they stayed. It would pay dividends next year.
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Or maybe the team at #2, Arizona or Carolina (or Edmonton), want Hanifin (they need D), so you could offer a package of Myers/Risto/Zadorov + Reinhart + Ennis and all 3 1st round picks to move up one spot to #2. If I'm EDM or CAR sitting at #2, that's a seriously nice package for what their needs are... and they get Hanifin as well.
I would do Myers, Reinhart, 3 and another first for one of McEichel.
I have a better idea. Let's tank, keep all those players, plus add McEichel. Who's with me?
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Sadly it looks like the Sabres are in trouble in this one, as the Red Wings are down to their 3rd goalie
Really? I'm starting the rumor now:
Enroth+Myers for Mantha.
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..for that reason I'm not worried. ARI and CAR are better teams than their record shows... they'll move up, while I fully expect BUF to drop.
I got 2 words for you: Darcy Regier. Don't under estimate the influence that weasel has down in that hell hole.
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Interesting there's a flu-like illness ripping through the locker room. I can just see it know:
Terry: you know Joe, I don't like where this season's heading.
Joe: oh, don't worry boss, I got just the thing to derail this.
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Tank on. Show them no mercy.
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Good news. Hackett can assume the role as Tank Commander. They should have him play 16 games just to make sure he satisfies all requirements.
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If your boss spent four months sh*tting on your desk would you be feeling really upbeat and encouraged about your situation? Because that's what a tank would feel like to these players.
If it meant something bigger for me career-wise or a sizeable raise, I'd be all for it. This happens to everyday people all the time. A tank should be seen as an investment or saving for retirement, painful at first, but paying off dividends in the future.
Each year 1 team drafts #1, 4 teams make it past the second round, and 14 teams miss the playoffs entirely. Put another way, every team is more likely to miss the playoffs entirely than to make it beyond the second round.
Edit: I'd just like to add that the NBA draft is far more volatile when it comes to talent distribution than the NHL draft. Somebody on Grantland (it may have been Bill Simmons, actually) looked at the NBA draft, and it basically came down to this: the best players are in the lottery picks, but which lottery pick is practically a toss-up. In the NHL draft, on the other hand, there is a clear and consistent dropoff in the probability of the pick producing a high end NHL player after the top-5.
Or, what is says to me is that you need both. You grab you generational talent, and if he's surrounded by a decent supportive environment, the sky's the limit. If not, it can easily go either way. And, besides, all this talk has nothing to do with McEichel, as they are a completely different can of worms than just a 1st round pick. For example, no one's going to confuse Reinhart with McDavid.
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We're not talking about the players though. We're talking about operations. You don't tank unless management and coaching is in on it. And if GMTM and Ted want to tank, then they should be fired.
But where do you draw the line? There's an extremely fine line, some say none at all, between management trying to tank and management selling off all assets in a "rebuilding" mode. But the later seems to completely acceptable in sports and sometimes even desired. Is selling off your older but valuable players the same as tanking?
Then there's the Andrew Luck argument. Do you think you can find a single fan in the Indy area who wishes they won a game or 2 instead of getting Luck? Are they all not true fans?
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They promoted their AHL affiliate HC, Todd Nelson, however the GM MacTavish will be behind the bench for a few weeks to help "transition" Todd Nelson into the role. Strange if you ask me... stinks like a rusty old tank.
If that guy, Nelson, ever wants to coach in the NHL, he'd better win and win quickly. If he doesn't agree, one conversation with Rolston might change his mind. This may be his only chance to shine. I think MacT just wants first-hand knowledge of who to dump.
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Still not worried btw. In 36 hours they'll be back within striking distance of EDM.. Who just fired their head coach.
That's fantastic news! There's no way an interim coach is going to take it laying down. Should put some wind in the Sabres sails, but I think at this moment Darcy is making a Dr Evil laugh down in Mexico.
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Do you think we can out-lose the Oilers? Just wonderin
Not with their current roster. It'll be tough.
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The Hawks are a completely different team without Kane as are the Penguins without Crosby. It's mind-boggling to be that people wouldn't want McEichel in exchange for losing over the next 4 months.
The sun doesn't move. Now you're just being ridiculous.
I'm pretty sure the sun is moving, just not around the Earth. In fact, the entire Milky Way is moving.
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This may actually work out well for GMTM's plan. It's no secret he wants to move players, but he'll only do so at steep prices. This winning streak is driving up the value of the Sabres assets. And he'd be a fool not to take advantage of this.
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It's interesting that so many teams are trying to obtain one of our most underachieving players. Why is Stewart tied to so many rumors?
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I'm still firmly a pro-tanker. In fact, I would even say that anti-tankers are those that prefer losing. It's like saying you would prefer a Kane-less Chicago or a Crosby-less Pittsburg if you were fans of those teams.
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I could be wrong but I took it to mean Green was the rental not Myers ?
Correct. They were talking about Green.
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You don't contingency plan for what you think will happen, not even what you think might be probably. You contingency plan for what you image might be possible. I think 80 points is in the realm of possibility. Your only talking 58 points in the next 54 games. a 1.1 points per game pace. maybe a 1-2% chance of it happening. Good enough for internet discussion. The dismantling of Toronto in mid-November changed this team.
I don't think it's just the way the Sabres play that's going to determine their final draft order. There are teams that are going to go full on tank the 2nd half of the season. It's going to be fierce competition. Edmonton is already doing it. GMTM needs to make the appropriate actions *now* to ensure the tank.
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Lol!! Darcy clicked that link 18 years ago, malware infected his IBM 5150 and the Sabres haven't been the same since.
Pretty sure the fax machine was also infected too.
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Current standings through games played 12/6.
Team ----- GP - L - W - OT - PTS
Edmonton 26 15 6 5 35
Buffalo 27 16 9 2 34
Arizona 28 15 10 3 33
Columbus 26 15 9 2 32
Carolina 25 14 8 3 31
Colorado 27 12 9 6 30
Winnipeg 27 9 14 4 22
Florida 25 7 11 7 21
3 teams in action tonight.
That's what I like to see. I'm also hoping the recent poor effort by some raises their selling price and are shipped off ASAP. Edm is our most serious threat.
Current Carrion Hockey League Standings
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That is quite awesome. Even better if you see him sending a wink up to GMTM and Neuvirth ripping off his mask to reveal Leino under there.