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2 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:
It's going to be funny when you guys win the Superbowl.
Man some of you bills fans Truly know how to overreact
Dude, you're always wrong.
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22 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Other than Josh Allen who has Beane drafted that is truly an impact player? Oliver maybe? 13 seconds happened for a ton of coaching related and trying not to lose reasons. The Dawson Knox signing still doesn't make much sense IMPO, I am not convinced Oliver doesn't also edge into this category. The offense last year in the second half was really weird to watch, they looked disconnected.
This team has never made a superbowl and only made the conference finals 1 time. I would say this is a pretty big season for the coaching staff and gm to prove that this roster isn't flawed and can do more than win in the regular season. Right now the Bills are the Leafs of football. Great regular seasons, but for reasons always seem to have stumbles in the playoffs.
13 seconds was a fireable offense on it's own, and it's been trending downhill since then. There's some big contracts that aren't looking so good right now. The whole thing really screams for a rebuild-on-the-fly with a coach who can get it done, but we're gonna settle for "almost". Again.
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1 minute ago, Buffalonill said:
It's a good thing you have Josh Allen because hes the one that's gonna win you the Super Bowl lol
We're wasting Josh Allen. That's the worst part.
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21 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:
I propose a mass ban event when the Bills win the super bowl in the next few years, @SDS
Ban me if McClappy wins a Superbowl with the Bills. I don't care, but I feel pretty safe in betting that he won't.
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3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:
How is that anybody's fault? The fact that the team actually still played football after that incident is bravery enough.
Hey I would love for the Buffalo sabres to actually make the playoffs every year and be one of the most dominant teams in the NHL
I would love a championship.
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Just now, Buffalonill said:
I'm confused by you bills fans what's the problem with these 2 ?
They built a juggernaut From the bottom to becoming one of the most dominant teams in football
Buffalo Sabres/Bills: Always happy with "almost". In fact, it's rewarded.
Bills: 13 seconds, last year's debacle, team chemistry going downhill, poor drafts, over paying "your" guys to the detriment of the team. Yep, sounds like extension time!
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These guys needed a hot seat. Not a fan of giving them more security at this point.
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The expansion rules are fine. The Sabres have had 50+ years to win a championship, and haven't really been trying for most of the last decade, so of course teams are going to win before we do. The problem is internal, not external, but I know the kool aid is flowing free around here.
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9 hours ago, Eleven said:
So it's on to "Series T"? https://theahl.com/stats/playoffs/80
Surprised the NHL hasn't tried to force this on us.
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Both the NBA and NHL playoffs show why you go all out just to make the playoffs. Anything can happen. Hope Sabres brass is paying attention. Both leagues' overall #1 seeds out in the first round and some other big upsets as well.
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1 hour ago, aristocrat said:
Part of me thinks this group also has told Adams they like the room and don't want huge changes. Who knows
I'm not so sure this revelation is a positive development. Changes are needed. Of course the players don't want change.
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6 minutes ago, Pimlach said:
Panic? Give us a break. After 12 years we finally have a shot at the playoffs and you are ok to sit on your hands and wait another year? Trades were available out there to upgrade the roster and still not affect the long term cap. You believe the cr@p they are feeding you that’s great.
We have 14 forwards on this roster and 11 of them play the exact same game. Until Stillman, we had 7 defenseman on the roster (with Dahlin hurt) and nothing in Rochester. Name a playoff team carrying 7 defenseman? We have 3 goalies on the roster and none are a true NHL #1. Glad we didn’t waste any money on trades!
Schenn is an $850k cap hit and he cost a 3rd round draft pick. He is rugged, solid, and has 2 Cups. Tell me how that hurts this team? Did you enjoy watching Joker get worked over and struggle to play extra minutes while Dahlin is out. Did you see him the last two games against big teams? How about that PK starring Lubyshkin, They cannot stop anything. The Sabres are above signing rentals I guess, they would not want to hurt the locker room or something like that
This is all about not spending Pegula money. That’s right, next year will be better. Sure. Great players will flock here.
Oh Portillo. He is apparently too “intelligent” to sign with the Sabres, a team without a clear #1. Let’s see if Johnson and Levi sign soon. We can celebrate that, even though it’s commonplace for other teams to sign their picks.
Don’t confuse fans being fed up with losing with panic. The Sabres front office has shown incredible patience, shall I confuse that patience as a refusal to compete? They appear. paralyzed, but they call it sticking to a plan.
So we will wait and play out the string, and hope that Dahlin and Tuch get back soon, and pray for goaltending, and watch them “be competitive in March”. Our new major milestone - still in it in March!!!! Be happy fan base, we are “in it in March”. That’s an accomplishment we can all rally around.
So we will wait until the draft, and free agency, like good soldiers. We won’t panic or question a thing. We will wait and watch Adams finish this roster, complete with 23 players that actually deserve to be in the NHL. Because next year will be better.
Next year, or maybe the year after …
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CUSP!
Maybe this will convince Kevvy to drive his Chevy to the levy and make a few deals?
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18 hours ago, Taro T said:
How many teams have been in the playoffs 5 of the last 6 years?
In the AFC, pretty sure it's just KC, the Cheats, & the Bills.
Don't pay that much attention to the NFC, but it's likely just the 9ers & the Pack.
Can a team be in a club that exclusive and NOT be "one of the best run?"
Maybe the Ravens OR Stealers are thetr too?
Settling.
18 hours ago, dudacek said:Winning Championships you know, the way you measure
successGreatness in sports.Yes, they've made mistakes and they need to get better.
That's not the same as they are terrible and the need to be fired.
Fixed the first sentence for you. This team and fans talk about winning a Super Bowl all year because we should be in that conversation. End of the year, we're fine with falling short again, and the GM and coach are moving the goalposts and shifting blame to save their own *****.
13 hours ago, Taro T said:We aren't going to see eye to eye on this, which is perfectly fine, so this is likely the last thing said to you about it.
Do you HONESTLY think Smart would've thrown his QB under the bus if OSU had made the field goal? Not a chance IMHO.
McDermott was critical of his team in game vs Cincy, but not so much afterwards. Why? Because leaders don't blame people under them publicly for losses especially not in the heat of the moment.
Leaders also take responsibility, make tough decisions, and don't do whatever McBeane were doing in their press conferences.
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56 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said:
McDermott might be Shottenheimer 2.0. Great guy, awesome culture, solid teams, and winning regular seasons but got worked in the playoffs.
And the culture may be breaking down.
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55 minutes ago, inkman said:
They won 13 games. Just saying.
What's the goal? Good season or championship?
I think Buffalo never wins anything because Buffalo teams and fans settle instead of strive for/demand greatness.
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Yep we're gonna run back this same team next year! These guys are too comfortable in their jobs. McB's drafts/acquisitions have not been good. He also basically gave away two gems he did find in the draft that would really, really help right now in Teller and Hodgins.
McClappy will never get us over the hump. Plenty of evidence for that.
Some kind of rebuild is sorely needed. They're delaying the inevitable and not doing the franchise QB any favors in the process.
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3 hours ago, nfreeman said:
Well, I'd say that all of us humans, even Sabrespace moderators, are not fully formed and have room for improvement.
In all seriousness: McD wants to win more than we do. I am pretty confident that McD will take a long, dispassionate look at himself and his staff in the offseason and will be able to make whatever tough decisions he deems necessary.
From the fans' perspective, since we need to be cold and clinical in evaluating whether a coaching change is needed, I think the question is: do the expected benefits outweigh the costs? i.e. would the Bills actually be better off, and advance further in the playoffs if, say, they traded a first-round pick to NO for the rights to Sean Payton?
Or would the inevitable transition hiccups, the loss of the first-rounder, the unsettling effect on the roster, the increased scrutiny and pressure, etc. bring about worse results, as we are now seeing with the Florida Panthers, who won the President's trophy last season, flamed out in the playoffs and then decided to play fantasy GM and traded their leading scorer and 2nd-best defenseman and replaced their coach, and are now greatly diminished?
OK man I think this is a joke at this point. Mc Clappy is going to honestly evaluate things and make tough decisions?
After what happened last year and his press conference yesterday? NFW that's happening.
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4 hours ago, nfreeman said:
Well, maybe I should let you answer your own question:
What I'll add is this: McD joined the biggest laughingstock franchise in the NFL. They weren't just lousy on the field, with a league-record streak of missing the playoffs -- they were an embarrassment off the field, to the point where well-regarded assistant coaches around the NFL would issue press releases stating that they weren't interested in taking the HC job with the Bills.
Then they brought in McD. Now, they make the playoffs every year and usually advance, stars from around the league want to come here, alumni of their organization get hired to run other teams, half of their games are on national TV, their players get plenty of league-wide recognition and they are generally viewed as a model, professional franchise.
They lost yesterday to the defending AFC champs, after winning a playoff game the week before and after a season in which, among other things, their franchise QB injured his throwing elbow, they lost their best defensive player and their top safety, who is an important team leader, for the season to injury, their best run-stuffer missed the game with an injury, their best DT was impaired with a shoulder injury, one of their guys more or less was dead on the ground in front of them in a game 20 days previously before being defibrillated back to life, their TE's kid brother collapsed and died on the football field just before the season, their city was hit by a deadly blizzard that killed 40 people and caused them to lose a home game and they had to break in a rookie OC.
That is an enormous number of physical and psychological obstacles to overcome. But they lost 3 games by a total of 8 points, advanced in the playoffs and then got taken apart by a very good team that has now won 10 in a row and is firing on all cylinders.
The idea of moving on from McD is insanity, IMHO.
My thoughts on McD are immediately above. I won't repeat them here, but I will say that if you think we are in coach purgatory, you must not remember the Mularkey/Jauron/Gailey/Rex/other losers era very well.
We disagree about Knox. I think he's a very good TE.
The D line was indeed manhandled yesterday. But as noted above its best player, who is also the team's best defensive player, was missing, as was their best run-stuffer, and Oliver, their 2nd-best DL, was impaired by injury as well.
You are also right that Tre White's return to form is uncertain. I think he's the kind of guy who will make it back, and that assuming he won't based on substandard performance after joining the team 10 weeks into the season, after a major knee injury and missing all of training camp and the first 10 weeks of the season, is a faulty assumption, but YMMV.
I think Hyde is at least as good as Poyer and that it's at least 50/50 that Hyde and White will return in full form next season.
We'll see.
Yeah I was there. Those teams underachieved in large part to their coach and coaching.
This team underachieves in large part to their coach and coaching.
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If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...
They blow games they should never blow every season under this coach.
Oh by the way, huge Josh Allen fan, but that Vikings fumble was all on him. They were predictably trying a qb sneak and he was moving before he had the ball because the defense was geared towards it. Because it's predictable. Because our coaching sucks.
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13 minutes ago, Taro T said:
If Cincy REALLY needed tickets sold in Atlanta as a motivator to be up for this game, KC is going to stomp them even if Mahomes is severely limited.
Still not what I said. It was a motivator, however, just ask Joe Burrow. They obviously didn't REALLY need it against the Bills yesterday.
The NFL and Bills fans got way too presumptive and excited about Atlanta and the Bengals rightfully took offense. We would have been offended if we were in their situation too.
I don't care anyway. Bills choked, there will be no accountability, and we'll be right here again next year. That's the bigger problem.
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1 hour ago, nfreeman said:
This will be an interesting offseason. The Bills are facing a number of important decisions and have a number of important on-field positions that clearly need upgrades:
- Poyer
- Edmunds
- Both coordinators
- WR2
- O-line
The good news is that they are well equipped at the most important positions -- QB, WR1 and HC -- as well as TE, D-line, CB, 1 S and 1 LB.
This isn't a rebuild. They just need to take a hard look at themselves and upgrade what wasn't working. Doing so will likely mean letting go of Poyer and Edmunds, as both will be too expensive to retain, even though they are good players.
Look at the playoff exits under Mc Clappy. Look at his press conference yesterday. Think he's gonna fire Dorsey or Frazier? This is what coach purgatory looks like.
I won't even get started on TE, but that is far from well-equipped, yet highly paid. D Line was atrocious yesterday, which a 34 year old Von Miller coming off ACL surgery, may or may not be able to help at some point next season. Tre White is a huge question mark at CB and the rest, absent Taron Johnson, are average at best. When Poyer goes, the safety position will be barren as well, with a couple huge question marks going forward.
This situation calls for an attempted rebuild-on-the-fly as much as any I've ever seen. Chiefs do it almost every year, why can't we? They do have very good coaching which helps.
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58 minutes ago, carpandean said:
Somebody on the radio pointed out that the Bengals had already sold tickets for a potential Bengals-Jaguars Conference Championship before the weekend, which is - by their logic - disrespectful to both KC and the Bills.
Yep still not the same situation. That happens every year. This was an unprecedented neutral field situation that everyone (especially the NFL and Bills fans) acted too much like it was sure thing to happen.
My whole point was that it was a motivator, regardless. Just listen to Burrow on the field after the game. That situation did the Bills no favors.
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3 minutes ago, Taro T said:
Teams sell playoff tix well before they know they'll be hosting the games. It's SOP and anyone complaining about tix going on sale more than a week before the game is played is not realistic (to remain polite).
That said, StubHub probably has some REALLY hood deals on tix now. 😉
(Yes, we all know the purchases are getting refunded to the buyers. It's a friggin' joke.)
I get that, but this situation, unlike the usual situation of selling playoff tickets, was not handled in the best way.
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Get bent, Randy. You're amongst the last people that I would take advice from on "intelligent and tolerable" online discussions.