Crusader1969
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24 minutes ago, CallawaySabres said:
Tage, not even close to a number one center
Cozen’s not a number 2 center
obviously they cannot push both of them down a line so find the best #2 center possible and trade any prospects to get cozens to 3rd line. Until then, nothing matters at all because they will never see the playoffs next year without making that happen.
If you believe that you may as well give up and not watch for the next 7 to 10 years.
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17 minutes ago, Thorny said:
To be honest I’m not in too much of a rush to get anything down in ink when the consideration is a team that’s going to finish between 22nd and 24th place, with points in the mid 80s (As likely as I think it is we are indeed stuck with the top 6 we’ve got.) That second line could be really good, I think.
Your projected lineup is a little too ea sports nhl for my liking though re: plug and play more youth. 2 more rookies? The floor is just so low, there. And what’s the ceiling we can really expect? Benson has been great (for a rookie) and he’s going to notch what, 30 points? And those guys likely won’t even be Benson. The “for a rookie” thing is probably the most important bit. Especially because we are bumping, checks notes, our 3rd leading goal scorer out of the lineup to do it?
I understand his deal sucks but essentially moving Skinner out for a rookie Savoie is not in a realistic stratosphere for a team that absolutely needs to make the playoffs. That looks like we are literally running a development factory.
I like the idea of two vet adds like Jenner and Carrier.
Byram on top pair makes me pretty nervous and uncomfortable. It’s funny that they sort of trade for these players with a singular pigeonholed role in mind and get into trouble when they don’t fit it. Every farmer and their mom knew we needed a RIGHT SHOT D. Oh well, at least Byram still shows flashes and he’s young. On a second pair he could be dynamic in the future.
I expect UPL/Levi but wouldn’t be what I would do, id look to bring in a more proven vet to backup.
I'm sold on Savoie, think he is going to make a huge impact for them as soon as next year. They have all these high end prospects, you gotta let them play at some point.
If you look back at this season, the young forwards (JJP and Benson) have been their top forwards for much of the season. It's the guys with more experience that have regressed.
so I have no problem with adding more youth if it means less of guys like Skinner, Olofsson and KOplus as I mentioned before if you bring in Boone, you really are depleting a lot of your prospect pool
as for Savioe for Skinner .... skinner is going to do next to nothing for you on a 3rd line. Savoie is tenacious on the puck, he is fast and won't be allergic to back checking Plus if there is one player in the league that represents regular season failure it's Jeff Skinner.
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Now that we are on to next year ( once again before the playoffs start), it's time to project the lineup for opening night 24/25
this is my best guess of what the lineup will look like, trying to be somewhat realist
Top 6 - pretty well write this in ink
JJP Tage. Tuch
Benson Cozens QuinnBottom 6
Greenway Jenner Savoie
Girgs. Kulich Carrier3rd line centre :
Option 1 - Jenner is going to be expensive but if anyone can pay the price it's the Sabres. Krebs and a 1st round pick may entice the rebuilding bluejackets
Option 2 Sean Monahan - a UFA who can play 2 way game and win faceoffs.
4th Line
UFA Carrier will bring the energy and physical play we all craveWill have to decide to play either ease Kulich in a 4th line role or keep him in Roch 1 more season What I do know , the guy will be ready for whatever the Sabres ask
if they prefer Kulich not playing on the 4th line, then they will dip once again in the UFA market for a guy like Colin Blackwell
13th Skinner
14th RobinsonDahlin. Byrum
Power. Samuelsson
Johnson Cliftondon't think we will see a top 4 RHD brought in Just so few out there that fit the bill and the price of one will be too high
7 - UFA signing that many of us have never heard of
UPL
LeviLevi will take Amerks deep into the playoffs proving he is too good for the AHL
Probably not enough change for a lot of you on the ice but I do predict a complete overhaul of the coaching staff
Plus, Trading for Boone Jenner will be costly and use up a lot of their trade capital
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Further on Parayko , he has received votes for the Lady Bing 4 times in his career. I can just imagine how Sabres Space will react to the 6-6 gentlemanly defenceman.
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55 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
Well first off, although they were picked in the first round, that doesn't mean they have that value now. You can pick wrong. But that's a different argument. At the moment they are not on our roster.
Is Parayko worth 3 first rounders? No, he's not. But would Parayko make our D a whole lot better absolutely, so I'm willing to over pay. If Savoie is just another Nylander (ours not the Leafs) it's not an overpay. If he's better it is an overpay but if we win and make the playoffs I don't care how good he is for them, cause we are a playoff team again.
If we can get a guy like that for less great. We probably should have tried to get Peeke off Columbus (cause he's been a physical shot blocking machine for Boston so far) for next to nothing or some other defenders but status quo just won't get it done. We do not have those guys and we need them.
Back to Tkachuk though, he's definitely worth that package if not more.
Good NHL players are good NHL players and they are hard to just get. You can see with Eichel and Reinhart we LOST those trades. It's time we became that team that dumps picks and prospects for true NHL players instead of just being a farm team for others.
how would Savoie not have 1st round value? the kid just led the WHL in pts / gm with 2 and is off to a great start in the playoffs and the 1st round pick, is still to come
Not sure how you would rank Samuelsson but if you can get a first for Risto.....
Plus I would say getting Kulich, Levi, Tuch, Krebs, Östlund and Greenway ((LVK) 2nd round pick used to acquire him) is a pretty good haul for 2 players who were at the end of their Sabres careers.
Is a 31 year old Parayko two first round picks better than Samuelsson? I dont see any universe that he is Again not opposed to the player, just not worth the package you want to pay
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To pay the price for Tkachuk, you have to have a serious investigation into his maturity level.
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1 hour ago, SabreFinn said:
Byram for Parayko?
I do not think we even should dream of getting B Tkachuk.
Nope
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On 4/5/2024 at 4:52 PM, Rasmus_ said:
Skinner, Krebs, Jokiharju, Bryson and Samuelsson. That's my list. The UFAs aren't needed to be listed. Of them I'd only consider Girgensons.
Agree with all but Samuelsson.
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3 hours ago, shrader said:
Let’s review the source of this disagreement.
-Crusader said he wouldn’t trade Samuelsson, Savoie, and a first for Parayko.
-You say you would trade Samuelsson, Savoie, and a first for Tkachuk.
So maybe, just maybe, we’re arguing over a misread post?
Oops. I think I have egg on my face
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12 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
You don't like winning?
In all seriousness, you wouldn't consider overpays now? You wouldn't move non roster players to make the on ice team better? You just want to believe and keep waiting? What would you do differently?
I do agree with you and I don't mind overpaying for the right player but basically 3 first round picks for Parayko?
11 hours ago, TageMVP said:He probly won't answer
It's easier for him to criticize than to come up with his own ideas
Weak
You don't know me very well if you don't think I'll answer. Plus I've said in many threads what I think the Sabres should do next season.
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51 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
It's an overpay but maybe it's an overpay I'd make because it would make the current NHL roster better right away. I think it's time to consider one or more overpay deals to make the on ice team better as we have lots of assets around the edges to use.
I would definitely trade those 3 things for Tkachuk and then I'd name him captain when he got off the plane.
For Tkachuk I'd consider it. I would however offer Byram, Kulich and Savoie and or a 1st rounder first. The more I see of Byram the less I like him. Power still has more upside and now he will look like a hockey player after the puck in the mouth 🙂
I'm very happy that you aren't the GM of the Sabres
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8 minutes ago, oddoublee said:
I would. Parayko aged 30-36 vs Muel over the next 6 years, at 2 million more, right hand shot, plays D, transitions the puck and is a league veteran..... St Louis would be stupid to make the trade. Thus, the sabres should jump all over it if that is all it takes.
You can win in the NHL with 30+ year old dmen
Too rich a price IMHO. Not that I wouldn't welcome the player but those are 3 prime pieces
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On 3/5/2024 at 6:27 PM, thewookie1 said:
Who here would trade Muel, Savoie and a Protected 24 1st for Parayko ?
Are you crazy ????????
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1 minute ago, Crusader1969 said:
The last couple of games have proved that there are a couple of players who should not be in the opening night line-up
1) Jeff Skinner - the stink of 1000 games and no playoffs is much too strong to ignore
2) Henri Jokiharju- minus 2 within the first 5 mins. Both times with soft D. (Yes I know that Quinn made terrible passes on both). Then the penalty that led to the 3rd goal
The bottom 6 needs a lot of work. - only guys on the roster right now that should be considered are Greenway, Krebs (though that's not 100%), Girgensons (4th line winger). Meaning you could see 4 or 5 new faces to fill out the bottom 2 lines
I will add about Joker and please correct me if I'm wrong. It was Joker that iced the puck needlessly prior to the face off where he took the penalty. Time to move on from him
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The last couple of games have proved that there are a couple of players who should not be in the opening night line-up
1) Jeff Skinner - the stink of 1000 games and no playoffs is much too strong to ignore
2) Henri Jokiharju- minus 2 within the first 5 mins. Both times with soft D. (Yes I know that Quinn made terrible passes on both). Then the penalty that led to the 3rd goal
The bottom 6 needs a lot of work. - only guys on the roster right now that should be considered are Greenway, Krebs (though that's not 100%), Girgensons (4th line winger). Meaning you could see 4 or 5 new faces to fill out the bottom 2 lines
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There will be nothing more appropriate than an empty net goal against to put us out of our misery
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Good job Dylan. Protect that nose
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I'd be thinking about shortening the bench #10 just isn't up for it
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Amazing. Guys in front of the net and they score.
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Love the net front presence on the PP! Embarrassing
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Good news. Donny still has an ace up his sleeve. You can't always go to Levi.... wait , what? They sent him back to the Amerks while the Sabres were still alive ??! lol
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Well at least it's nice outside.
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Every time they get close and the game means a bit extra. ...they crumble
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50 minutes ago, Sidc3000 said:
it’s over
Womp womp
Way too early opening night line-up
in The Aud Club
Posted · Edited by Crusader1969
I will completely disagree with you that Skinner is a better player than Benson right now
I would argue that the Sabres themselves agree with me since Benson has been on line 2 and Skinner on Line 3.
over the last 11 games of the season , which were quite important, skinner had points in just 1. In 6 of them he was a minus player. Small sample yes , but just highlites how little he contributes in a bottom 6 role