Hank
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Is anyone more miserable this morning than Tyler Dunne?
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1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
No one said the players don’t care about Buffalo or the fans. There is ample evidence they do care,
Questioning KA’s commitment to winning is a legit question given how he has constructed the team. The thread asks a question and posters are welcome to argue either side. I believe that the organization isn’t committed to winning, but it’s certainly possible, as someone posted above, is that KA is simply incompetent and doesn’t know how to move the team forward. If you believe that KA and the team is committed to winning, you are welcome to say so and bring any evidence you have to support that contention to the discussion. Maybe the argument is that he is committed but his timetable is longer than the media and fans want.
I think it's this. I think when Levi, Savoie, Kulich, Rosen, Östlund and Power are entering their prime is when KAs boss will evaluate whether KAs rebuild is a success based on standings/playoffs.
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43 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:
Does anything go with hockey equipment, even tape? Does the league have a say in the use of a product that might enhance performance?
I'm thinking about pro golf and its various restrictions on balls and equipment.
If the product is available to every player/team it doesn't provide a competitive advantage. That's how I see it anyway, but I'm less smarter than some.
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I think with all the questions/conversations regarding the players quitting on Granato, thier efforts these games leading into the new year will show how they truly feel about him. I don't expect wins against the Leafs, Rangers and Bruins, but I expect effort, unless the want him fired.
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Just now, Sabres Fan in NS said:
@Thorny, why the dislike thingie ??
It's okay .. we all get old and fat.
No, we most certainly do not!
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On November 14th the Predators had won only six of their first 21 games. Since then they have the best record in the league, winning 13 of 16. They didn't make any changes to the roster or coaching staff. Saros found his game, the defense are clearing the crease and the bottom six are contributing. That's it.
The Sabres have the talent to compete, and win, night in and night out. They just need to play like they give a damn.
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6K was coming off of what seemed to be a pretty severe illness in the Denver altitude, and the team as a whole played like *****. I think he plays a great game in the mullet, won't be surprised if he gets a shutout.
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2 hours ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:
I can honestly say I cannot care less about this game. We are going to be embarrassed and i have better things to do with my time then watch. We are 1 billion percent not in a league with Vegas and they are going to toy and wipe the ice with us and we will most likely lose another goal scored to IR. LOL Go Sabres!
You came to Sabrespace and sought out the game day thread to inform strangers on a message board that you have better things to do than watch a game you have no interest in? That's interesting.
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I still watch every minute of every game. More often than not it's while eating my waffle the next morning, but that's because I spend most evenings with the kids and grandkids. My interest in the team has not wavered at all. Since I retired I follow them more than I did pre-retirement when the kids were in the house because I have more free time and less obligations. I also don't get worked up like I did in my 20's. Family, career and a mortgage puts sports in perspective.
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19 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:
Ouch! Sorry Jay's fans, that sucks.
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45 minutes ago, Thorny said:
It’s absolutely a good trade. By the only metric Adams cares about: value within a vacuum. We come out ahead here. It’s a good trade by value comparison.
Much more saliently: It’s also a mark of poor performance from the GM, assuming we don’t make other moves: as it’s insufficient in addressing needs.
But the trade itself is a good one. We are the victors! We won this trade.
Did your snarky reply to me giving my opinion of a trade make you feel better?
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5 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
I haven't seen them play much but I think it might have more to do with the D they picked up than the goalie on his own.
Consider, for example, how much Minnesota's goaltending has dropped without Dumba and vice versa. He's not the only part of that obviously, they have several D men new to that team, but I do think it's part of it. Ullmark won a Vezina in Boston. Do you think he'd have put up the same save numbers if he'd stayed in Buffalo? Or do you think Aidin Hill would have put up his numbers without their D and Cassidy's system?
Everything is connected, and it is most certainly not just "luck".
I think Durzi was a very under rated pick up. That kid is good.
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It's a good trade. Fills a bottom six/PK need, decent speed, forechecks and got him for free.
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1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:
You know the thing about Torts is he's really good with dogs and he kind of treats players the same way. He's really hard on you early, he trains you to be obedient, but then when you fetch that stick swiftly and promptly he gives you the best treats.
So players that buy in and give the work and effort love the guy and he treats them well. Perhaps even better than other coaches. Only the lazy guys and prima donnas have a problem with him. You look at all the character guys that played for him in the past like Nick Foligno and they all love the guy.
He simply sets a standard and then holds everyone accountable. He's a very good coach.
I still hold to the theory that if we'd only named ROR captain instead of Eichel everything would have gone very very differently.
Interesting analogy on torts, I like it.
I agree with you about ROR. I don't think he lost his love for the game, I don't think he hated being in Buffalo, I think he hated some of his teammates.
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2 hours ago, mjd1001 said:
Agreed. These forwards are awful, not helping out the D and in many cases making them look worse than they actually are.
Look at the 2nd (game winning goal) against Nashville last game, thePuck DOES go through Jokiharju, but in the 3-4 seconds before the goal is scored:
-Puck on far boards, Benson really doesn't do much but wave his stick at the D-man who directs the puck to the center of the ice
-Puck goes right to Cozens, I think its actually on his stick in front of the Buffalo net, but he loses it.
-about 1 second later, Cozens has the puck on his stick again in front of the Buffalo net, has it easily poked away by a Nashville player
-Goes to another Nashville player, Cozens waves his stick at him, isn't able to knock the puck away, and it eventually goes to the shooter.
When the shot is taken, both Buffalo D-mean are at least where they should be. Benson could have impacted the puck on the boards a bit more and he didn't. Cozens had the puck on his stick 2 times and a 3rd time could have knocked it away (all within about a 2-3 second period) and failed in all 3 attempts. Peterka? kinda just gliding around a few feet inside the blue line, more stick waving.
Cozens is a skating disaster is his own zone this year, and the wingers don't do much but glide around and wave their sticks. Just because you are a "forward" and not a "defenseman" doesn't mean when your team is playing in your own zone you can just kinda do whatever you want...but to many of these forwards it sure seems like it.
Well said. Bravo!
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7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
Since other teams will spend to it but we won't, this will hurt the Sabres even more.
I'm just in a bad mood having watched Philly beat Pittsburgh again. Philly, F'n Philly with no talent doing better than us already.
Torts should be in the running for coach of the year, I don't think he gets enough credit.
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6K was outstanding against the Preds and deserved a better fate, I hope they go back to him tonight.
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Today is the first of a three game winning streak.
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4 minutes ago, steveoath said:
What’s the amerks score?
This is an excellent place to see live scores for any league in any sport across the globe:
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11 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:
6K is and will continue to be fine. The team did not play good D in front of him. That said, he is a goalie in the NHL. None of them play lights out every night. He did not play well atoll. It happens. I would have pulled him in the first, but what do I know.
When your O peppers the other guy with 40+ SOG and scores 4 time and should have had a few more, then your G has to give you very good odds to win.
Well said. I agree, rough night for my boy, but he'll be fine.
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Rough night for my boy 6K. Woof!!
Save % down to .905(24th), GAA down to 2.88 22nd).
6K is now 6-3-1 in games started.
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2 hours ago, nfreeman said:
Thanks for your follow-up here. I appreciate you (and everyone else here) making sure to keep it friendly.
Anyway, I don't think my stance on Mitts has been "unwavering." I think he's developed into a good player -- and there was a real risk a few years ago that he would simply wash out -- and in the abstract I would like to keep him on the Sabres.
The problem, of course, is the cost to do so, which unavoidably needs to be evaluated in the context of his actual value as well as the context of the Sabres' cap situation. He's a center who last year had 15 goals and 59 pts. This year he's on pace for about the same # of goals and closer to 75 pts. He just turned 25 and he's an RFA after this year. Locking up a player with that kind of profile will probably require something like 7 years x $7MM per year.
When I watch Mitts, I see a good player who adds value in a supporting role, but not a player that I'd want to give that kind of contract, which is the kind of contract I think needs to be reserved for franchise cornerstones. Especially in the last couple of weeks, I still see way too much of "bad Casey" -- i.e. poor puck decisions that result in O-zone turnovers and squandered opportunities. I also think in most cases a forward who only scores 15 goals or so isn't worth that kind of contract.
And we shouldn't kid ourselves about the consequences of giving Casey 7 years x $7MM -- doing so probably means you're not able to keep someone like Quinn or JJP or Benson when it's time to lock them up long-term.
If Mitts would agree to, say, $5MM x 5 years? Sure -- sign him up. But I don't think that's going to happen. Since Mitts has been eligible to sign an extension for 5 months now and it hasn't happened, I'd guess that he's asking for substantially more than KA is willing to agree to.
We'll see. Hopefully I'll be wrong about him and he'll make it clear that he's too good not to lock up at a high price.
I think we're more in agreement than not, especially on not going past five years. Definitely wouldn't give him a NTC. I'd prefer to keep him if I was Adams, but I'd also be looking at what I could get for him in a trade.
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9 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:
Yea I feel that. The outlook for me is locking up Mitts for five years and getting his solid 70 pt production at a substantial UFA cost isn’t the best long term plan. It’s best for the next two years, but is it the best for the next five? That’s really murky. He might be blocking guys who can replicate that production.
I’ll reiterate that no doubt investing in Mitts is for sure the best plan to make the playoffs asap. That might be the goal for some.
But getting Mitts to re-sign past his last RFA year is going to be very expensive and the internal pool is deep. I’m looking much more long term than playoffs asap when I consider Mitts next deal.The only thing I would add to this is I believe Mitts is 25, so locking hi up for five years takes him through his prime.
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8 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:
I understand both points. Only want to add that GMKA is very close to his team. He will reward his own if it’s warranted…it is his preference to build from within. So what I say next might be irrelevant.
With all of that said, I lean toward Freeman’s thought. Casey just turned 25. Buying out a bunch of his prime UFA years will be very expensive. Can’t that production be replaced with spreading it out with the touted prospects making their way to the show in the next couple of years? I think so. With Tage healthy and Cozens going and the commitment that has already made to each, putting Casey on a top six wing role or 3C isn’t a good use of cap dollars.
Yes, 60-70 points is a lot and spreading out the production of 60-70 points to guys on their ELC is a risk. But there’s a lot of high end talent coming here soon. I’ll take that risk along with the corresponding cap flexibility (to also help cover said production…with a lot of extra dollars to improve the team offensively & elsewhere at the same time).
Yes I realize this won’t be popular right now.
A big reason for Mitts improved play, in my opinion, is he's matured physically. He's able to maintain possession of the puck. Less turnovers and stronger on the boards. Depends on his ask and what we could get for him for me, but I don't think the kids could make up what he currently provides (more than just points) next year and maybe the year after.
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Buffalo Bills 2023 Thread
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Bills finished the season 6th in the league in points for, 4th in points allowed, fourth in point differential, won another division title, are the two seed and on a five game win streak heading into the playoffs. Overall, a very good regular season.