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Take out the 1st and Lemieux
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Please God no, I like Lemieux and that's way to much for too little
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I'll do...
Tyler Myers
Drew StaffordBUF 2nd rounder
For
Evander kane
Zach bogosian
1st rounder
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This is buffalo1000, I have told about the tallinder trade and a few more before they have happened. This trade is ready to happen,sabres will announce tomorrow if they make the trade. Winnipeg has already signed off
Tyler myers
Drew stafford
Joel armia
Brendan Lemieux
2nd rounder
For
Evander kane
Zach bogosian
1 st rounder
I guarantee you this has been presented and up to sabres to agree
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That seems really steep in cost, no thx
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Awesome! Now that expectations are there, I cannot wait for this board to turn on him in 4 years because he hasn't developed into Chara or Shea Weber. I will start the "he's worthless thread" now.
Tongue in cheek comments above. I think Zadorov is fine. I say the above because I think Myers needs to be on this team and I think some of his criticism comes from the past couple of years of performance. Judge him on his skill set and what he could contribute to a contending Buffalo team with talent, not what you want him to be or what he has been.
I honestly think that it's pretty sad that some of you have already decided to throw Zadorov to the wolves. Myers takes a lot of flak from the board mainly due to his soft play while being so big physically. That doesn't mean however that Myers is a complete bust all it means is that his likelihood of becoming Chara at least in terms of style is very unlikely. Zadorov strikes me as very similar to a Chris Pronger type of player. What we have to stop doing is wanting players to literally become other players while wishing a player become similar is legitimate to expect anyone to perfectly match up to Hall of Famers is absurd. That being said I would love Myers to play with a mean streak but even if he doesn't, working harder in the corners and on the puck coupled with his speed and skating ability in general makes him just as valuable in a sense. After all Chara is like an elephant on the ice not very graceful. Myers will play like Myers and Zadorov will play like Zadorov.
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Mckenzie says the Sabres have significant interest in Kane and could use Myers as part of a deal...
(NEW) McKenzie: "#Sabres have considerable interest in Evander Kane." Tyler Myers could be part of it. #NHLJets http://t.co/ax28XvGZyR
I hope to God we don't give them Myers + for Kane, I'll likely have a stroke caused by my pent up anger.
I'll take Bogosian and Kane + a 3rd for Myers + a 2nd
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Zadorov technically should be in the AHL, but since that wasn't possible he was a better off in the NHL than the OHL/KHL. Might he play some games in Rochester, maybe, but it would be short and likely more for rehab or the like.
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where do you think he falls in a ranking of all prospects? I don't think it's very high...
I'd say Carrier is more a decent level prospect
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Didn't read the whole post but an UFA, a decent prospect and a first is absolutely not asking too much for Kane. But we all know you like to try and rob teams with your trade offers. :P
Armia is better than a decent prospect. He's a high end prospect, If they want Armia they get a 2nd, if you give them a decent (slightly above average) prospect you can give them a 1st.
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I feel the Jets GM is overvaluing Kane ever so slightly. He seems to be expecting about 2 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder in return for him.
The offer being jostled around is Stafford/Stewart, Armia/Grigs, and the NYI/StL 1st for Evander Kane
Stafford and Stewart are very similar in value varying from a low 1st (oddities do happen ex: Gaustad) to at minimum a 3rd & 5th rounder.
Armia and Grigs are both still worth 1st round picks due to their age and potential, along with their advancement in the prospect hierarchy.
The two other 1sts are obviously worth a 1st a piece however both have the possibility of being as high as the 15th pick even with both of them making the playoffs. In this heavily skilled draft, a 15th to 20th overall would include what last year was likely in the 5th-10th area. We got Zadorov around there.
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Kane is a very good player with the potential to be great, even elite in his style of play however his stats barely outdo Tyler Ennis whose been on easily as bad or worse teams.
Kane on average misses 1 month of each season
Has 1 30 goal season and was on pace for 30 in the lockout year aside from that hasn't hit 20 since
This doesn't even mention his off ice baggage he carries with him
At best I feel he's worth about 1 1st round and 2 2nd rounders thus my highest offer would be
Stafford/Stewart, Armia/Grigs, and the NYI 2nd if possible or else the BUF 2nd for Evander Kane
A 1-3 round pick in conversion, a 1st, and 2nd. If the going rate for Stew or Staff is a 2nd, you give them BUF's 2nd because its practically locked in around 31 to 33 already. If you can trade either for a 1st, give them the NYI 2nd.
Thus in essence you are swapping present and future 1st/2nd line wingers Stafford/Armia for example for the Jets present and future winger in Kane while adding a 2nd in good faith in order to hedge Armia's chances of doing well along with Stafford's decision to resign or not.
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If they did they are absolute morons.
Taking a look at Nick Ritchie, meh, he doesn't really do much for me. I know this conversation was a little while back but idk the kid is basically slightly bigger Brendan Lemieux with less goals and speed, plus he is 8 months older. It just seems like we could look for a better prospect somewhere else or ask for something different. To me I would trade Myers to either Detroit or Vancouver.
I want Gibson, and if traded, want Myers out of the conference just in case he does become Chara-like regardless of the likelyhood
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Did the morning GR people just say they would trade Myers, Foligno & the Blues #1 for E. Kane?
I certainly hope not, that's senile.
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Light up Halak please Buffalo, we can get back to panzering next game. Plus Stewart is boosting his value rapidly.
Let's Go Buffalo!!!
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I wouldn't trade Ennis for Kane solely based on Kane's baggage.
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Myers may end up traded in that case, I think Gorges is having a maintenance day most likely.
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I still think a player without huge question marks will have to be included. Hodgson, Foligno, too many unknowns. If I'm Winnipeg I want legit NHL talent that's under contract. Ennis, Moulson, Myers, Girgensons, one of them will need to be included.
Yes I would want that if I were Winnipeg, but I don't think they can get it anymore. Kane has become a problem child and his value has dropped supposedly.
I'll give them Stewart, Ruhwedal, and our 2nd for Kane, but nothing more.
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They had better bring back Gary Thorne to do announcing, at least it would play off of nostalgia.
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I have no problem with Dunleavey's announcement. He seems to do an adequate job if only he could show a bit more his personality like RJ did and does still during in in between the periods. However he is certainly better than Kevin Slvester or some random guy that they picked up off the street.
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It would be beautiful even if they don't miss the playoffs if they lose in the first round. Seeing ass then the pick Is in the late tens. So while their season stats really doesn't matter, their playoff exit is all I'm concerned about. Not to mention I highly doubt the Islanders are going to pull a Toronto Maple Leafs collapse.
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What I wouldn't mind as if the Sabres won as well at any time that they were still four points up on any other team. If we were to go 31-0 want to know as one of our posters said earlier we would likely lose the prospects on the team. I have no interest in starting at square one again.
So for example if the Oilers win in their upcoming game in Buffalo get allowed to win against St. Louis. And that works with any other team that may come close such as Phoenix or Toronto or even the LA Kings. Six points might be a bit more conservative but I wouldn't mind seeing the Sabres win more than 20 games this season
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I'd be far more inclined to get Myers out of the division. The Red Wings are the only exception mainly due to the return they can give us. After seeing Larkin in the world juniors with Reinhart I'd be at least interested in him.
Ideally I would send Myers to the LA Kings or Anaheim ducks seeing as they're outside of the division and still have good things to give us.
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Girgensons played over 22 minutes during the game, 3rd on the team in skaters (Myers, Gorges) And seemed to win a ton of faceoffs in that crucial final 5 minutes.
Enroth has always seemed to be a borderline starter, he's not consistent enough season-wide however his skill is certainly starter grade.
What happened to Flynn, he used to be so trustworthy, like a Girgs-lite, but he's seem to have just become incapable of any offensive play.
I was certainly happy though for both the losing streak breaker and Gorges and Gionta getting the win.
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I feel the Sabres will win tonight, not sure why, just I have the feeling they will.
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Sabres win 4-3 in OT after a weak goal thus sparking thoughts that Miller let them win.
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Burmistrov?