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I’m still not convinced on metrics. If Ristos metric is lousy with buffalo and is traded to Tampa and the metric remains the same than I’ll be convinced.
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11 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
Actually, yes. Yes they do:
What does this show for us unenlightened in the metrics?
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I don't claim to understand advanced stats, but I don't think they are the end all be all. Are advanced stats reliable? Do they show that Karlson was a great defensemen on a terrible Senators team? Are there Norris nominees with terrible advanced stats? Will Risto's advanced stats suddenly improve if traded to Tampa if he is paired with a solid second pair defensemen and he plays 17 minutes a game?
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Harrington in his column today ripped Botteril for essentially forcing Housley to play Thompson and Sobotka. Its time Bots took some blame for this disaster. I would say it more on Botteril than Housley, after all it was Botteril who hired Housley
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Schopp is also a firm believer in hockey advanced stats. Since most people don’t understand them it’s makes the discussion trivial in Schoops eyes. He hates Risto due to advanced stats.
I don’t claim to understand advanced stats or know how reliable they are and what predictive value they have. If Risto is traded to Tampa and plays 19 minutes a night on second pair with a consistent good partner, will his stats remain the same? Schopp never addresses issues like that, he just feels we need to get rid of Risto.
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4 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said:
I love them, particularly Schopp. He is the only consistently objective, critical voice of both the Bills and Sabres you will find in the local media. He's great.
Schopp while extremely arrogant is fairly intelligent but his liberal bias is so obvious in any discussion. It’s always anti management pro player. He also brings race into issues where it doesn’t belong.
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4 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said:
We actually out Corsied Carolina last night! That happens very, very rarely with this team.
Really solid goaltending and maybe we win that one. Our goaltending has been terrible and it's a big part of our troubles, but by no means the sole factor. There is no piece of this organization immune from criticism or guilt!
Hell, I blame Sabretooth for some of our woes!
Bots needs to accept responsibility for the goaltending mess. Our goaltending is just as bad as last year. Bots moves at the position have failed.
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14 minutes ago, #freejame said:
Not for nothing but the Pittsburgh boards have been complaining about not having Botts. I don’t think he’s the issue.
What are thay saying specifically? Is it related to talent acquisition or salary cap management?
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My dream scenario ROR scores a hat trick and we get blown out 6-0. Both Bots and Housley are fired after the game. An experienced respected GM is hired who hires an experienced respected coach and the Sabres lose the rest of the games win the lottery draft Hughes and go deep into the playoffs next year.
A guy can dream. Why not?
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5 minutes ago, Darryl Shannon's +/- said:
Everyone is fired up about this trade, but we won't know the outcome for another 3-4 years. Let's see how O'Reilly ages at that cap number. And see how both the draft picks and cap flexibility play out.
In terms of the worst sabres trades, this probably isn't even top 5. But that's a fun rabbit hole to run down.
And last...the other point regarding O'Reilly is that age matters given the teams regression. If dahlin is our cornerstone, he needed to be traded.
Ok let’s hear 5 worse trades in Sabres history. I’m not sure it’s fair to count Hasek and trades done because the owner didn’t want to spend money
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We seem too have a lot of 5th and 6th line players. Too bad we don’t have second line players. Problem solved ?
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1 minute ago, Darryl Shannon's +/- said:
It's not like St. Louis is a wrecking crew. They are in the playoffs by a 5 point margin. Watching 90 last year, this wasn't a guy to build around going forward. Good player, but not a cornerstone.
I’d settle for good players instead of trash. We have so much garbage on our lineup it’s absurd. Sobotka and Okposo are just as bad as Moulson. Thompson also plays a lot of minutes. He belongs in the AHL.
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12 minutes ago, eman said:
Nope, Richard is right . O'Reilly wanted out. I am sure either he or his agent requested to be moved. You could see on his face in the post games he was biding his time and kind of talking around the issue. There is something going on here.
It’s obvious that ROR recognized that we had incompetent coaching and GM. That’s why he wanted out. He wants to win. Unfortunately the future looks bleak here.
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2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
No. I believe Jbot and ROR had a very frank conversation and ROR made it clear that he didn’t want to be in Buffalo. Jbot therefore went and got as much as he cuff for him.
From a hockey standpoint this season I agree it was a mistake, but depending on how Tage, Mitts and the 1st rd pick develop, this trade made not look bad in the future.
If JBOT was a competent GM he would never have acquiesced to ROR trade demands. He would have improved the team around him and hired a competent coach to make ROR happy and produce a winner.
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I’m excited to see what he can do. It will be interesting to see who his line mates are.
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8 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:
I anticipate them signing Duchene as the 2C. From Friedman’s 31 thoughts, sounded like they were interested in acquiring him at the deadline
I’m also expecting them to get the #2 pick in the draft. They would land their first line RW in Kakko
trade Risto for a second line LW.
Skinner. Eichel. Kakko
??? Duchene. Reinhart
Sheary. Mittlestadt. Olofsson/Nylander
Girgensons Sobatka Okposo
DAHLIN Bogo
McCabe Montour
Pulit Nelson / Borgen
Definitely a playoff team with better than avg goaltending
You know LSD is still illegal. How are we getting the 2nd overall pick? No way is Kakko ready to start on the top line. Bogo as a top pair??? Better than average goaltending-Is the Dominator coming out of retirement??? Who is the LW we are getting for Ristolainen?
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I don't see any help coming from Rochester for next year. Some fans are expecting Olofsson to come in and light it up. I think that is unrealistic. Unless Botts makes a huge trade or an impact free agent signing, I don't see any way we are a contender. GASabresfan who is the new #2 center you are hoping for for next year?
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I’m not optimistic even assuming we resign Skinner. I expect Dahlin, Mitts and Montour to improve and Pominville to be gone. I don’t see us competing for a playoff spot.
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Just now, Scottysabres said:
And yet, having both Kane and ROR on this team and the end result WAS ACTUALLY WORSE than this season...…………..
Yet, Botterill is the problem.
Ok, got it.
A lot has been added Dahlin, Bogo Mitts McCabe playing most of season. Botts has been atrocious and will grossly overpay Skinner now to save his job.
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Bots is responsible for this soft cupcake team. Getting rid of Kane was just as bad as getting rid of ROR and hirin Housley
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Why would Skinner want to sign up for 8 more years of this? He could go to a contender. He should at least wait and see what his options are in free agency. He’s never been to the playoffs and god knows this franchise isn’t getting there any time soon.
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He proposed such great trades that were always in the Sabres favor and even when the Sabres made a terrible trade Like the ROR trade he made the return sound like a collection of current and future superstars. His unbridled optimism is sorely missed.
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I think the losing may have gotten to him. He had such faith in Murray and Botterill to make great trades and transform the team into a contender. His column seems to have disappeared from hockey buzz.
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I have zero confidence in Botts ability to build a winner. The ROR trade will go down as one of tf the worst trades in Sabre’s history.
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Nylander called up
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Not hard enough. You forgot to mention the incompetence of not resigning Kane and now having the wimpiest team around.