shrader
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Would anyone like to place a bet on how Shane Pinto will perform now that he’s returning to Ottawa?
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49 minutes ago, Quint said:
You should become a professional Sabres historian/fact checker. I'm in awe.
I knew the college players really well at that point because it was essentially my life.
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5 minutes ago, Quint said:
Two lousy draft choices. With few exceptions over their history, the Sabres have always been bad at drafting. Hard to say what they're worse at, trading or drafting.
They traded Ballard before he even played a single game. That was a part of a three way deal that landed Drury. Was he really a bad draft pick?
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56 minutes ago, Quint said:
I still don't understand the trades for Ben Bishop and Johnny Boychuk. I know it was for cap reasons but it seems like gross mismanagement that the Sabres had to do this in the first place. They didn't play one minute for our team. The return the Sabres got on the Reinhart deal, although incomplete, seems to be bad to me at this stage. I'm not counting on Levi making it (we'll see) and Kulich, although he has a rocket, seems to be a one-note Johnny, like an Olofsson. As mentioned, the Hasek forced trade for Kozlov and what turned out to be Keith Ballard was really poor, but like many bad trades the Sabres have made, they have turned high draft choices to stale mediocrity by bad choices.
It might not be the worst but my least favorite trade was Peter McNab for Andre Savard.
They took Ballard with their own pick. The one from the Hasek trade wound up being traded to move up and take Dan Paille.
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3 hours ago, SwampD said:
I don’t care about Belichick, or Brady, or some imagined attack on Christmas.
What we should be talking about is does anyone truly believe that Josh Allen and Bills Mafia (another thing I really can’t stand) have the power to deny the NFL, and their desire to have Taylor Swift in a box at the Super Bowl?!
I wonder how many parents of teenage girls are going to realize in six months that they’ve been paying $9.99/month for a streaming service they didn’t even know they had. Hope they like soccer.
Swift dumping Kelce on live tv and jumping into a love triangle with Josh Allen and Kate Bishop… that would make for some great tv for the tmz crowd.
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They burned the 25 games in hand that they had? Yikes.
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3 minutes ago, Pimlach said:
I don’t think this thread was written for the rental player, the salary dump, and rebuilding and moving on from vet type of trades - in fact read the OP and it isn’t. But if want to include them in a worst trade in history thread, go ahead.
As for the purpose of a trade. If you are not getting better, you're getting worse.
The point is that it’s a strange standard to apply to all trades. They’re not all made today. The gold standard has to be Nieuwendyk for Iginla. Calgary didn’t get better from that deal, only adding 14 points over 31 games. But not teams won that deal: a cup for a long hall of fame career.
So clearly we know what this talk branched off from. It’s not a good deal but there’s still so much to be written with the two key pieces still in place and very early in their careers. So bad today, but it doesn’t approach the worst of all time label, particularly when you’re talking about a team that got absolutely nothing in return for the greatest goalie who ever set foot on the earth (hey, I can counter hyperbole with some of my own).
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1 hour ago, Pimlach said:
I’m talking about good old fashioned “hockey trades”. Like the ROR trade.
Deadline trades of sellers would skew everything.
So in describing the purpose of trades, we want to exclude a large portion of trades that are made? Seems fair.
1 hour ago, seer775 said:The blues got their impact. We sold our 1C and got another one a handful of years later.
Result? Down a top C for years on years. Bad trade.
As I said, I’m not talking about that trade.
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2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I hope it's the Jets or Miami.
The Jets? Now that would be hilarious given what he did to them when he jumped to New England.
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3 hours ago, Pimlach said:
I would love to see data on this statement.
The Sabres were not rebuilding when they trade ROR, they were reaching and reacting, which is what chronic losers do. The two vets were supposed to improve the club at the time, the rest were futures. We are lucky to have two good players 6 years later, which salvages the trade. But to the hockey world, the Blues won a cup in large part because of this trade.
Data? So do you think all those player for draft pick deals at each deadline, both teams are expecting immediate impact?
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16 minutes ago, Pimlach said:
The object of a trade is to improve your team. The Blues added a great player, plus they dumped two players past their prime and on bad contracts, and won a cup that ended up with ROR getting the MVP. The Sabres got no immediate help improving their team. The two vets were garbage. They got a future pick in Ryan Johnson, and they got Tage, who 3 years later has developed into a good player that might be a great player - maybe.
The Sabres did not improve their team. They have continued to lose. It’s been 6 years with no playoffs since that trade.
I’m going to talk about trades in general and not that specific trade. There are very few trades that occur where both teams are trying to add immediate help.
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45 minutes ago, Doohickie said:
Let's just say his girlfriend will be very happy with the transplant he received from the donor donkey.
So it’s now very lower body?
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2 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:
this take is popular right now. i agree that brady wound up looking better following their divorce. but i just can't get down with this theory. there are plenty of incredible QB's who haven't found postseason success. that team was an unprecedented dynasty because of the head coach and the QB - not necessarily in that order. if people insist on quantifying it, maybe a larger share of credit belongs to brady? but not by much.
Brady left to join an already loaded team. Now it’s Belichick’s turn to do the same.
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2 hours ago, Archie Lee said:
We drafted 4 Hall of Fame players between 1982 and 1987, completely lost patience and traded them all for a sum that got us a 1st round win over the Bruins in 1993. Yuck.
To be fair, two of those traded hall of famers shouldn’t be mentioned in this thread. The returns on Housley and Turgeon worked out pretty well.
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29 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:
Did they reattach his entire lower body or something ? I hate the designation for injuries in the NHL.
That’s the first time I’ve ever seen lower/upper body used to describe a surgery.
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7 hours ago, Alaska John said:
ROR, Eichel, Reinhart, and Barrasso all wanted out of Buffalo for one reason or another, and Hasek was traded for non-hockey issues that I still don't understand.
At least the Reinhart trade brought in Devon Levi, and we got more than nothing for both ROR and Eichel. It's too early to tell whether in the long run the Sabres won or lost those trades. Barrasso was too long ago for me to remember how that trade went.
Hasek wanted out too.
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8 hours ago, K-9 said:
Josh is 503 feet, 11 inches tall?
It sounds like a bit of an underestimate, honestly.
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Only one home team lost. I was actually able to get my just turned two year old to say “how ‘bout them cowboys” during that game.
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It’s not worst by any standard, but looking back at the Kane trade, that one really sucked.
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Rabble rabble Kevyn’s an idiot rabble rabble
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On days like this, I’m reminded of this screen shot I took the day we drafted him:
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12 hours ago, ... said:
I can't believe teh weather is more important than this right now:
Buffalo has to play one more game than KC/Houston/Baltimore but they still have the highest percentage? That’s kind of crazy.
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36 minutes ago, Weave said:
I still have to re-realize this almost weekly.
Dementia can do that
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I’d also like to add that football games were only played in January on fields shaped like a U. You had to drive for a touchdown uphill in the snow both ways.
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Around the NHL 2023-24 Season
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If they the lower body surgery that was joked about here, I wonder who performs the first cup check.