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  8. UPL's next contract

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    4 hours ago, Mango said:

    Unsure of the numbers post covid, but pre-covid the vast majority of players who saw arbitration cut ties with their teams afterwards.

    So if you want the odds of UPL only being a rental for a year arbitration is the right path. 

    I would rather overpay a half mil per year over 4 years than to lose another goaltender. We would just be repeating the Ullmark situation. We let him walk, forced UPL into action too early, struggled through it for a season, now possibly refuse to pay him and give Levi the starting role too early. 

    Arbitration would buy us two years of UPL because he’s got two years of RFA left and he can go to arbitration twice.  
     

    I don’t want to pay extra to buy out some of UPL’s UFA years, which is what you would have to do to sign him long term.  
    I’m a Levi truther.  He’s the long term plan.  Two more years is enough to groom Levi to be the guy.
     

    We didn’t have a “Levi” at the time in the Ullmark scenario. UPL wasn’t ready then. Levi will be ready in two years…he might be ready next year.  

  9. UPL's next contract

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    39 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

    They cannot afford to let another goalie get away.   

    That’s why arbitration makes sense. Still an RFA after next year and you will better know what you really have.

    The long term answer is Levi anyway. Devon already has nothing left to prove in the AHL (.927 save percentage in his 26 games here this year—and even better so far in the playoffs). 
     

    For this UPL negotiation, you have to consider the fact that he may be a backup before the end of next year. 

     

  10. UPL's next contract

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    9 hours ago, dudacek said:

    7 goalies make $6M or more. 17 make 5 $5M or more.

    Here’s a look at your recent 3rd contract RFA comparables.

    UPL: (2024)

    5 years pro, 100 NHL games, 1 season of good numbers as a starter

    Matt Murray (2020) 4X6.25M

    6 years pro, 199 NHL games, 4 seasons of good numbers as a starter, Stanley Cup

    Cal Petersen (2021) 3x$5M (signed extension a year before he would have become a UFA)

    4 years pro, 54 NHL games, good numbers but no season as a full-time starter

    Thatcher Demko (2021) 5x$5M

    5 years pro, 72 NHL games, good numbers, 1 abbreviated season as an NHL starter

    Ville Husso (2022) 3x4.75

    6 years pro, 57 NHL games with good numbers, 1 abbreviated season as an NHL starter

    Filip Gustafson (2023) 3x3.75

    5 years pro, 66 NHL games, 1 season with good numbers as an NHL starter

    Alexander Georgiev (2022) 3x3.4M

    5 years pro, 129 NHL games with good numbers, none of them as a starter

    Vitek Vanecek (2022) 3x3.4M

    6 years pro, 79 NHL games, 1 year with good numbers as a starter

    Stuart Skinner (2023) 3x2.6M (signed mid-way through 1st season as a starter)

    5 years pro, 30ish NHL games, 1/2 year of good numbers as a starter

     

    You gotta think UPL is looking for a Demko deal, the Sabres a Gustafson.

    I think the move here is to have UPL elect for salary arbitration. He will get a significant raise, the Sabres can afford it, and back to RFA with proof in the pudding that he’s a .910 goalie (or not).  

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  12. Arizona Coyotes are relocating to Utah

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    Owner Ryan Smith has said the team will have a name starting with Utah. The options to choose from are Frost, Ice, Powder, Mountaineers, Freeze, Mammoth, Black Diamonds, Blast, Caribou, Blizzard, Swarm, Hive, Outlaws, Yeti, Squall, Fury, Glaciers, Canyons, Venom and HC, which stands for Hockey Club.

    https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/40111549/utah-offers-20-team-name-ideas-including-frost-hive-venom

     

    I am not a fan of any of them…

  13. NHL Playoffs (First Round) discussion

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    10 hours ago, Thorny said:

    Only reasonably decently likeable teams left are Colorado and Florida 

    I watch the playoffs each night and my wife asked me who I am rooting for in round two…and this was my exact conclusion. 

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  20. AHL PLAYOFF GDT - Amerks @ Crunch - Thursday, May 2, 2024 - 7:05 PM (EDT) AHL TV, 950/95.7 WROC

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    Just now, PerreaultForever said:

    Which is part of the problem in terms of how we develop and with the lack of culture we have at the NHL level. The kids need to be around veterans to learn what it takes and what it doesn't take. A bunch of kids who think they are god's gift to hockey not surrounded by vets is a model for failure. 

    Your AHL team is an injury reserve pool of veterans and a rookie training ground where guys learn to fix their flaws. Ideally it's about a 50/50 mix. 

    If your NHL roster is more than 30% (maximum) rookies, first contracts and bridge deals you're likely not going anywhere either. 

    The Sabres being the youngest team in hockey is NOT an accomplishment. 

    You aren’t wrong, but please see my previous post. There has been a shift in philosophy and the Amerks have had positive results (four playoff series wins the last  two years).  Those players are only now aging into roles in Buffalo if at all.  

  21. AHL PLAYOFF GDT - Amerks @ Crunch - Thursday, May 2, 2024 - 7:05 PM (EDT) AHL TV, 950/95.7 WROC

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    25 minutes ago, Weave said:

    What I did was ask him to explain his justification for his statement that “the Amerks model is working” in the context of making Buffalo better.  I’m not sure how you stretched that into some weird time travel expectation.  Maybe try reading through your glasses instead of looking down your nose underneath them.

    I think the context needs to be when Adams & Karmanos began their roles. Since then, Quinn & Peterka earned stripes and call ups (point per game guys in the AHL). Krebs also got playoff experience. Rochester since then (and now) are surrounded by AHL vets to balance the roster.  The organization has also been patient with Rousek, Rosen, & Kulich…who have all played well at the AHL level.  They sent down RyJo to season. Maybe they’ll pan out or maybe not.  But the Sabres are figuring out what they have with their prospects before promoting them (which wasn’t the case for Mitts & Tage). 
     

    It takes time to reset the development pipeline and the Sabres seem committed to using Rochester properly. I’m not saying you’re wrong in your assessment, but I’m trying to point out that there are new philosophical differences in prospect management that need time to bear fruit. 

  23. AHL PLAYOFF GDT - Amerks @ Crunch - Thursday, May 2, 2024 - 7:05 PM (EDT) AHL TV, 950/95.7 WROC

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    15 minutes ago, K-9 said:

    Are you saying the Amerks were better than the Crunch in games 1 and 2 or that the Amerks were simply better in games 1 and 2 than they were in game 3? Because from where I sit, the Crunch has been the dominant team in all three games. 

    The Crunch have carried play, but they did not generate many high danger chances in games one and two.  Rochester deserved to win game one and got beat by three deflected point shots in game two.  
     

    Game three was another story. The Amerks looked feeble.  Their zone entries were gross and they were terrible in their own zone. Levi was otherworldly. 
     

    With all that said, a little puck luck could go a long way.  They’ve all been one goal games. 

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