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  2. Everything about the 2020-2021 Sabres. Will they finally be good by then?

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    4 hours ago, WildCard said:

     

    In view of the above, please tell me I am interpreting this interview wrong:

    https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/06-26-paul-hamilton-howard-and-jeremy-0

    1:20-3:41

    1:20 - Girgensons and Larsson get QO.

    1:35-50 - PHam puts Girgensons, Larsson, and Sobotka into the same bucket for value to the team and that at most 1 of them should stay.

    2:48-3:03 - Q and A where PHam asserts that, unless Sobotka voluntarily leaves, that he will be on the 2019-20 roster.

    3:10-25 - PHam says that "they" (the Sabres' management) don't think Sobokta is as bad as we do.

    5:05 - PHam seems to assert that Tage Thompson will be on the 2019-20 roster.

    If I am interpreting this properly and PHam has the pulse of management, that means that we can look forward to another season with the two worst players in the league being gifted roster spots.

     

    Me with this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side.

  3. Jbot Do Something Already Off-season 2019

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    4 hours ago, Pimlach said:

    Interesting story.  A boy as young as you could tell that Fred Shero was a better coach than Floyd Smith from how they ran drills for kids?    Maybe Smitty went easy on you guys because he was too a nice guy?   ?  LOL     Smith was not a great coach but he was a very good player in his day back  in the 6 team league. 

    I was at those Stanely Cup games.  The difference was indeed Bernie Parent.  Shero was an excellent coach, I saw that when he coached the Bisons of the AHL.  Floyd Smith was just ok.   The Sabres had the better team outside of the goaltending.  Unfortunately Bernie Parent was the best goalie in the league and he played lights out in two straight SCFs.   Roger Crozier was not healthy and Desjardins was picked up late in the season.  Desjardins played good hockey and he did have a few very strong years with Buffalo.   

    I agree that coaching is huge.  While I don't think Buffalo has a history of great coaches we did have Scotty bowman for Coach and GM for quite awhile.  He never got us to the finals yet he won Cups everywhere else he had been.  He inherited a talented team and stripped it down for draft choices.  Some of his picks worked out (Barrasso, Mike Ramsey, Andreychuck, Housley) and some did not (Steve Patrick, Jiri Dudacek, Norm Lacombe).  His teams were a hodge-podge of vets and rookies and to me they seemed to lack any real chemistry. 

    Other than Torts I cannot think of a Buffalo coach that won a Cup as a HC? 

    It was hard to describe even back then.  I definitely remember that his explanation for the drills made a lot more sense than Floyd Smith's.  The practises were smoother and seemed to flow from one skill to the next very naturally.  They also made a kind of thematic sense.  You could tell he was a greater student of the game.

    I saw some interviews many years later where Al Arbour and Emile Francis said that Fred Shero was the first to really understand why the Soviets' training methods were done how they were and what results they were trying to get.  He was able to take thugs like Dave Schultz, Don Saleski, Orest Kindrachuck, and Gary Dornhoefer and turn them in to useful players in that they could kill time and not get scored on with alacrity.  (Unlike the Sabres' Michel Deziel, Morris Titanic, Larry Mickey, and Norm Gratton from that same season.)

    On Bowman, I think that he did not really know how to be a good GM until he reflected on his mistakes here.

  4. 2019-2020 Buffalo Sabres Schedule

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    16 minutes ago, shrader said:

    Yeah, I guess so. And you better believe they wouldn’t pass on the opportunity to sell a few tickets for those. 

    For the preseason, I don't know why there isn't more of this in the NHL.  The Sabres would have, say, 40 or so players to use, so splitting the squads to get everyone 4 games of preseason out of 6 before the last couple of games to determine final cuts and roster spots would be really useful.  For instance, every year, we could have parts of the Big Club play in Cincinnati, Rochester, and State College; other games could rotate between, say, Cleveland, Erie, Syracuse, Utica, Albany, Glens Falls, Binghamton, Traxler, erm, Wilkes-Barrie, Hershey, Allentown, and Hamilton.  Heck, when the options exist, make them full hockey days with the affiliates playing early and the pro teams playing later.

  5. Jbot Do Something Already Off-season 2019

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    4 hours ago, Radar said:

    I always was cautious about putting to much value on coaching and Trots and contrasting Housley has made me think I should put much more value on coaching.

    True Story on why I put way more importance on coaching and the GM than most:

    I went to a hockey camp at Holiday Twin Rinks after the 1974-5 season for the last 2 weeks.  The penultimate week, Floyd Smith ran drills and such for the kids; I can't recall what other weeks he did.  During the last week, Fred Shero came in; he only did a few days, if memory serves me right.

    After the first day with Shero, I was in tears when my parents picked me up.  After I got into the car, my mom asked me what was wrong.  I recall my answer clearly.  "The Sabres are never going to win a Cup with Floyd Smith."  I then went on to elaborate what I preferred about Shero.

    IMHO, although Bernie Parent vs. Gerry Desjardins was the deciding factor in that series, coaching made the Sabres permanent underdogs among the top teams.  To this day, I believe that coaching was also the Sabres' ultimate problem with Montreal, Boston, Philadelphia, and the Islanders in subsequent years.

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  8. Risto said it's time for him to go?

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    41 minutes ago, dudacek said:

    Who are the people you know?

    Among others, my brother's friends in the NHL corporate offices, a friend in Vancouver from my days in Doctor Who fandom, a couple of hockey writers who have written books on the NHL.

    Remember that their stuff is predicated upon their opinions, so the information is at best second-hand when I get it.  Their impression is that it is that JBot is trying as fiercely to trade Ristolainen.  My brother's friend in the NHL offices kind of ruefully said that, and I quote, "JBot may have learned his lesson with O'Reilly.  We Sabres fans have to hope so."  That quote bothers me, and I can't quite put my finger on why.

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  10. Risto said it's time for him to go?

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    On 6/22/2019 at 7:15 PM, dudacek said:

    Renault Lavoie Tweet:

    The @BuffaloSabres are still trying to trade Rasmus Ristolainen. No takers so far but it could change at one point in the next few days

     

    Hes a Montreal TV guy and well-connected. You’re forgiven if visions of toe-dragging giraffes and RJ mistakenly calling players Svoboda are now dancing in your head.

    What a cluster***** 

    The consensus from the people I know is that the Sabres are not "trying to trade" Ristolainen; it is that they are willing to trade him and openly discuss packages with other teams.  Allegedly, this is not as aggressive as the O'Reilly situation last year.

  11. Everything about the 2020-2021 Sabres. Will they finally be good by then?

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    On 6/22/2019 at 7:04 PM, Trettioåtta said:

    Kind of depressing we have already accepted next year to be another write off.

    Ultimately we need our young guys to step up. We have drafted like crap for most of a decade and so have empty cupboards despite drafting highly.

    Not me.  I expect the playoffs this year.  Nothing less will satisfy me unless we get to 100 points and somehow still miss the playoffs.  At least in that case, we will have won a majority of our games and the year would have been entertaining.

  12. Jbot Do Something Already Off-season 2019

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    2 hours ago, New Scotland (NS) said:

    Welcome WWTG!!

    Sent you a beer as a welcome to our little crazy family.

    What you outlined is part of the issues that have resulted from the ill advised and not very good idea to tank for 2+ years.

    Agreed on Welcome, WWTG.

    Also, you can't follow up tanking for multiple years by compounding the offence by trading all of your picks away.

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  13. 2019-20 Sabres Prospects

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    1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

    Playing and finishing an entire season in the NHL?  Guys like Mitts and Raz are never going to play in the AHL. Thompson May very well start next season in Rochester.  

    He had better start next year in Rochester.

    1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

    Playing and finishing an entire seasonHow about prospects are defined as Waiver Exempt players 23 and under who spent time in the previous season in the AHL or lower leagues?  As Dahlin and Mitts played only in the NHL they are no longer “prospects,” but since Thompson is 21, waiver exempt and ended up in the AHL he is still a prospect.

    As a straight, objective definition for the somewhat ethereal word of "prospect", I can get behind this.

  15. Risto said it's time for him to go?

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    2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

    So Schopp is making it sound like Ristolainen isn't getting traded, what did I miss in that regard? Is the discussion over in the rumor thread or something?

    It's because Botterill talked him up as "still developing".  He seemed to think that the GM should just tell everyone what he really thinks of the player in a press conference.

  16. 2019-2020 Lineup

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    I can hear the Ballad of Sir Robin in my head shortly before your first line...

    13 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

    ....and there was much rejoicing.

    Guess this means we aren’t spending to the cap and Jbot is either going to send him down or use him as a depth forward.  Status Quo here we come.  

     

     

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  18. Non Sabres Deadline Trades/Rumors

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    1 minute ago, ... said:

    I thought the consensus was that he only screwed up one trade, and there's not consensus on whether he was forced to make it..?

    But, seriously, even JBot must know trading anything more than a 7th for Vesey is stupid.  

    I think that part of the issue is not so much how many trades he has screwed up on; it is more on how badly he botched it.  (Berglund I can forgive; Sobotka, no way.)

  19. Non Sabres Deadline Trades/Rumors

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    1 minute ago, ... said:

    Do we not trust Botterill to recognize this, too? 

    I go by negative inference: if it is true that the Sabres are trying to get Vesey, then I do not trust Botterill to have seen these data.  If he has, then I do not trust him to recognize their meaning.

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