MakeSabresGrr8Again
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14 hours ago, thewookie1 said:
I actually would have to agree; while I'd imagine the Pegulas are trying to lessen their losses I don't expect Terry to turn down the opportunity to make the team better. If anything Pegula could have very well told Adams to go after big fish but not spend recklessly.
Botts was so damn stupid its not even funny.
I'd love to understand how
Thompson, Sobotka, Berglund and a 2019 1st, and a 2021 2nd, and $7.5 M.
equated to or came close to
(2018) 3rd Overall, Danault and Poehling
in his mind.
Montreal's 2nd Danault and Poehling should of been countered with either Danault, Poehling and a lottery safe 1st in 2019 and their 3rd in 2018
Ugh just ugh
Fify
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2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
Here are the numbers
NHL Forwards under contract - 4 - Eichel, Skinner, KO and MoJo - Cost 29.5 mill
NHL Defense under contract - 5 - Risto, Miller, Dahlin, McCabe and Joker - Cost 13.975 Mill
NHL Goalies under cotnrat - 1 - Hutton - Cost 2.75 mill
sunk cost (CoHo's buyout) - 791K
Cap already used up on 10 players - 48,291,667.
That leaves 21.7 mill for 12 players if TP sticks to a 70 mill budget.
RFAs: Lazar, , Kahun, Reinhart, Thompson, VO, Mitts, Montour and Ullmark
Kids who could fight for a roster spot: Cozens (894K), Ruotsalainen (925K), Aspund (845K), Borgen (864K) and maybe Bryson (889K).
So who are the next 12 Sabres? I'm going to assume Risto stays and Montour goes. Lets call it cap certainty. I'm also going to assume Lazar (800k), Kahun (2.75 mill), Ullmark (3.5 mill), VO (3.5 mill) & Reinhart (6.5 mill) are re-signed for about 18 mill. That gives us 15 (8F, 5D, 2G)players for 66,300,000. Add Thompson (900K), Bryson (889K) Cozens (894k) to get to 19 players for 69,000,000. Anyone know where we can get a 2C for $1 mill? Maybe Asplund plus one of Mitts or our top draft pick also makes the team and we get to 21 players for nearly 71 mil using the assets already here.
Lineup
Skinner Eichel Reinhart
VO Kahun Thompson
MoJo Cozens KO
Asplund Lazar Mitts
McCabe Risto
Dahlin Joker
Bryson Miller
Ullmark Hutton
If this is the direction we are headed, then the season is over before it starts. https://buffalonews.com/sports/sabres/how-sabres-gm-kevyn-adams-could-navigate-a-lower-budget-for-next-season/article_93e97d62-f453-11ea-a6bb-37c4c46bd196.html Lance tries to paint a prettier picture by assuming (hoping) that the RFAs take their qualifying offers. Not likely. Reinhart, Lazar, Kahun, VO and Ullmark all have arbitration rights. Good luck getting them agree to the qualifying offers.
Another way we can save some money to allocate elsewhere is trade Colin Miller. This makes room for Borgen and Bryson to play the 3rd pairing. Obviously at 70 mill our depth would be a joke, but given our rink manager GM and newly penny pinching owner, I think the joke is on us the fans.
Just a note....you have 15players and you add 3 more for a total of 19. Is this the new math?
In the end you will still need another player.
Sorry, if I ruined it for you.
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What does Pitt get if the conditions aren't met, a cheeseburger with fries on it?
Or does Minny send them a My Pillow?
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1 hour ago, JohnC said:
This excruciating financial environment that the Sabres are subjected to will be the same excruciating financial environment that many other teams will be subjected to. One way to adjust to this more stringent environment is to have a lower internal cap. That will be the same way that a lot of other teams will adjust. Paul Hamilton who used to work for WGR said he believed that there will be a lower internal cap. Elliotte Friedman on the Instigator Show stated that he believed that the Sabres, like many other franchises, will have a lower internal cap.
Even under the current circumstances I'm not ruling out the Sabres being able to upgrade the roster this offseason. The front office will have to be more creative in order to contend to the challenging fiscal environment. Trades for players/contracts coming in will be offset by players/contracts going out. And I suspect there will be more younger players with cheaper contracts on the roster.
I'm somewhat disappointed because I felt that the former GM put us in a good cap position to make some major changes to the roster this offseaon. However, the financial climate has altered that ability to pursue a number of enticing players. But that doesn't mean that even under the current circumstances the organization can't make some impacting acquisitions to make this a better teams. I'm eager to see what transpires this offseason.
Just think about it....those higher profile UFA's and RFA's are going to sign somewhere, they aren't going to sit the season out (minus opt-out for Covid maybe). We have just as much chance to sign someone as any team.
Just trying to be positive. We might be able to get talent and fill in cheaper roles with younger guys. It boils down to picking the right players and can KA get them or willing to chance guys like Tage/Cozens/etc.
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36 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:
The thought that we have good prospects in our organization and have not traded, or just given them away, makes me angry. We can get rid our young talent if we try. It will takes years for many of them to play in NHL. Who wants to wait? Trade or just release them! Anything!
We could get bags of pucks back. Right? Look at all those players out there that played in the playoffs this year. Good thing we threw those players away, like Braydon McNabb, so happy he is gone.
Crap, now you got me wanting the Isles to win it all.
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Happy b'day!!!
Hope you have many more...in fact, I'll give you some of mine if you want.
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17 minutes ago, JohnC said:
It was a disastrous hockey decision that to this day has affected the team. I agree with you that a financial consideration was a factor in that decision to move him out.
The one thing is ....success on the ice will make the wallet much thicker. It creates more excitement and sales in all areas and not just locally.
I would agree that this is the time where they should take advantage of the situation. Sure, streamline to an extent but you don't cut back the quality of your product (of course that's hard to do in our product) or chances are you'll lose even more/all of what you have.
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18 minutes ago, spndnchz said:
No not Covid. More of an issue with not enough red, white blood cells and platelets
When I read up on it, it sounded like something that could be an after effect of Covid. That's why I asked, I was wondering if this might be one of those long term effects we don't know yet. Guess not if you didn't have it.
Like I said before, hope all goes well for you.
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4 hours ago, spndnchz said:
I know it’s technically Friday but mods have these privileges....
Last week sucked. It started Sunday with a huge cramp in my whole left leg. Luckily my roommate was home and massaged it out. I noticed both my feet were ice cold, while my legs were normal temp (weird right?)
I don’t remember but was told that about an hour later my whole body froze up and was like one big body cramp. My roommate called 911 and fire, ambulance, whole nine yards were at the house. I was put on a back board and taken outside to the ‘cart’. I guess I was worked on for about 15 minutes before being taken to the hospital. Turns out I was having seizures and had another when I got to the hospital.
i don’t remember anything until early Wednesday. 3 iv’s, meds and around the clock nurse aid watching over me until Friday. Really thought I was going home on Saturday but they kept me until Sunday afternoon. I follow up with a few Dr’s next week. They initially think it’s Pancytopenia.
Did you have the Covid? Just curious.
Hope all goes well for you.
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52 minutes ago, dudacek said:
Well, he's 28, so it should be no surprise that he's already had his 'career years.'
The question is 30 points is an outlier, or the new normal?
Was he just a bad fit in Nashville (32 points in 79 games since being acquired at the deadline in 2019). Or has he game dried up (He had 49 points in 63 games in Minnesota prior to the trade.)
Maybe he plays better on a crappier team...lol
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I think it will be Halloween before we have an Adams sighting....
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9 minutes ago, Curt said:
Thanks!
The stats used by the author are fine, but just one evaluation metric among many. Overall, I didn’t like the article. The author apparently believes that Granlund at 2C would immediately fix the Sabres. I’ve been a Sabres fan too long to believe that nonsense. The author gushes about how great of a center Granlund is, when in fact Granlund hasn’t even played C a lot in the past 4 years. It’s just strange and seems like it’s written by a guy who doesn’t really know what he is talking about. Or maybe he is just the worlds biggest Mikael Granlund fan.
I like Granlund fine though. He seems to be on the decline a bit, so I would be a little cautious with term. He is still good though, and if he even wants to play C (a legitimate question after years away from the position) I’m not against it. If he isn’t going to play C though, this team is kinda full at LW, so I’m not sure there is a great fit.
Thanks. I'm not as excited as the writer but thought it might be a good option for the "stop gap" that could move to a 3C or move-on in 2yrs. Good all around player.
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5 hours ago, Curt said:
I think any type of ranking that overall rates Granlund above Bergeron, ROR, or Couturier should be looked at with extreme skepticism. 🤨
It is true though that he has played mostly LW since the 2015-16 season.
I posted this article in another thread, maybe you can see the stats they use and make heads or tails of it. I'm not a big stats guy but I somewhat understand some of it.
It's not as much a ranking and is more that his stats are better than those three guys on certain key categories.
https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2020/09/08/mikael-granlund-brings-everything-the-sabres-want/
Just for your info so you can see one of the things I read.
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52 minutes ago, Curt said:
I was focusing on trade possibilities, but yes, Granlund would be someone to look at. The main thing to consider with him though, is whether he is actually a center. He started his NHL career as a C, but has played very little C over the past four seasons.
With that in mind, no way I could consider him a legit 2C. Center hasn’t even been his main position.
The articles I've read talk of him as a perfect 2C and not much about him playing the wing. I wasn't aware of what you claim.
They even show stats that put him ahead of the likes of Bergeron, ROR, and Couturier.
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25 minutes ago, Curt said:
So, I’ve created an updated list of potential center trade targets along with their remaining contract info. I’ve separated them into three groups:
Legit 2C- proven play at a 2C level, does not need to be sheltered at either end of the ice.
Middle 6 C- isn’t good enough at one end of the ice, or has lacked consistency
Bottom 6 C- definitely not someone who you want as your 2C, but is good in a lesser role
Legit 2C:
Eric Staal, 35, $3.3M x 1
Logan Couture, 31, $8.0M x 7
Adam Henrique, 30, $5.8M x 4
Phillip Danault, 27, $3.1M x 1
Sean Monaghan, 25, $6.4M x 3
Elias Lindholm, 25, $4.9M x 4
Anthony Cirelli, 23, RFA
Middle-6 C
Nick Bonino, 32, $4.1M x 1
Kyle Turris, 31, $6.0M x 4
Tyler Johnson, 30, $5.0M x 4
Yanni Gourde, 28, $5.2M x 5
Chris Tierney, 26, RFA
Max Domi, 25, RFA
Alex Kerfoot, 25, $3.5M x 3
Jared McCann, 24, RFA
Dylan Strome, 23, RFA
Bottom-6 C
Artem Anisimov, 32, $4.5M x 1
Derek Stepan, 30, $6.5M x 1
Nick Bjugstad, 28, $4.1M x 1
Adam Lowry, 27, $2.9M x 1
Andrew Copp, 26, $2.3M x 1
Radek Faska, 26, RFA
Alex Wennberg, 25, $4.9M x 3
Tyson Jost, 23, RFA
Adam Gaudette, 23, RFA
Please discuss your favorite targets. Who would be right for Buffalo?
Granlund at 28yrs old is an UFA and you don't need to trade for him. I would put him in the legit 2C category.
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18 minutes ago, Shootica said:
I would definitely expect most contracts this year (and most likely next) to fall short of Evolving Hockey's projections due to the uncertainty around earnings and the salary cap in the near future. Their model relies heavily on previously signed contracts for comparison purposes, which were all signed with the expectation that the cap will increase year over year. You can't say the same about this round of free agency.
I could see shorter deals in hopes of cashing in later when things are back to normal. Of course, where an RFA would then become an UFA, this might not work well.
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4 minutes ago, Zamboni said:
Who the heck is saying 8.75 for Sam? I haven’t seen one person say that or agree that that’s the going rate. I probably missed it so please show me that.
Go to the link and read it. I believe he used Evolving Hockey.
I believe that Pronman's projection is close to that, IIRC.
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34 minutes ago, Shootica said:
Solid stats perspective. I think the article comes across a little too narrow focused on his analytics and some bits seem suspect, but I do like the idea of Granlund at the right price. 7 years at $6.5 seems rich though.
So does the $8.75M for Sam.
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Great read about Granlund....
https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2020/09/08/mikael-granlund-brings-everything-the-sabres-want/
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49 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Stop trying to attack me for *****, I am one of the few posters on this board who openly admits when they are wrong so back off.
Links?
Lol...just kidding.
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37 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said:
Carried by Dahlin, Cozens, and Jokiharju no doubt.
Might add UPL to that list.
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4 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
It's Kim's team. Isn't that obvious?
Exactly.
As far as the analytics approach goes, I still don't think the Pegulas know anything about hockey so now they don't trust hockey people (even though they never hired experienced hockey people to run it) but they are business people so numbers and computers and charts and stuff seem to make sense to them so ya they say let's try that shiny newer thing.
I think this is likely. Kim's statement about how they have more information than us fans somewhat confirms that.
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47 minutes ago, Gabrielor said:
I gotta be honest, I was expecting some activity by now.
Why? KA doesn't want to add junk, so he's waiting to deal with the winners.
Can't get Cirelli and Tuch until they're done playing.
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On 9/3/2020 at 10:36 AM, Eleven said:
He called Kim something that rhymes with what Doug Marrone likes to do on 4th and 3 from the opponent's 35. Thing is, I don't remember who told me this now. I can narrow it down to a handful of people that would have information like this, but I don't remember who.
I found another reference to this in a post from early 2019....
JJFIVEOH 345JJFIVEOH
Posted February 27, 2019
Murray did things the way he sought fit. Kim didn't like him because he wasn't a yes man. Murray deserved more time to prove his pan worked, but Kim is power hungry. Murray is right, she probably is a *****. She has no business running any business.
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I didn't miss the point, I was showing that it was even worse because there needs to be one more player added to your calculations.