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3 hours ago, OverPowerYou said:
I don’t like listening to Kenny Albert do hockey games. It reminds me watching a random NFC game on fox. I don’t like it
I think he's AI generated.
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The only one I can up with myself (possibly) is Scott Laughton. The Flyers are rebuild/compete, can't quite figure out which or trying to do both and his name was mentioned as available last year. 2way 3C. They might not want to make that deal any more.
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I'm curious but what/who do people think we can get for this 11th pick? Which team(s) do you think have what we need and would want this pick in exchange?
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Just now, Thorny said:
Is this post from 2019?
Could easily be. I may have said something similar back then. It does often feel like we are going in circles and things repeat. The names change, the results don't.
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30 minutes ago, Thorny said:
Teams with low payrolls make the playoffs all the time. Making the playoffs isn’t hard
This isn’t just something I/we say. I say it cause it’s true.
Washington was ASS this year
Making the playoffs isn't hard? Well if that's true then I guess the Sabres aren't just a sh*tshow, they are a colossal sh%tshow.
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5 hours ago, dudacek said:
He really is very much a "trust the process" man.
If I'm honest with myself, I think I am too, and that's why probably why I'm willing to give him every opportunity to play this out.
I think by and large his strategy is the correct one given this market and the crater that has been built in it.
But just because the strategy is correct, that doesn't mean the execution is correct.
That's where I tend to see things differently than @PerreaultForever a lot. I think Adams actually is trying to do a lot of the things he complains about in terms of culture and building from within.
It's the execution where the two of them differ: Adams went speed and skill first over grit and defence, and force-feeding youth responsibility early rather than shielding them behind a collection of Pat Maroons and Brian Giontas.
Given where we started in the summer of '21, I personally think we'd be in about the same place right now, had we followed the Maroon/Gionta path: a playoff bubble team, crossing our fingers that the youth was about to break out. But we will never know.
What we will find out over the next 12 months is whether Adams did indeed blow it, and a Lindy-led core of Thompson/Tuch/Cozens/Quinn/Peterka/Bryum/Dahlin/Power/UP/Levi - developed the way he has chosen to develop it - has the right stuff.
Because that is what Adams has built, entirely by design, and that is where he will sink or swim.
That's valid. Optimistic and a little bit in the realm of "hope and pray" but valid. That is sort of how we differ for sure. I'm just more of a burned out cynic after all these years. I don't doubt that Adams is "trying to do" it but I don't see it happening and question how it can happen the way he's doing it. How do you teach kids to be leaders when they aren't surrounded by leaders who teach them and hold them accountable? There's too much faith in some sort of organic process where it all just magically comes together. I will believe it when I see it.
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6 hours ago, Thorny said:
People are saying his messaging has been on point this offseason, and I can kinda see it at times, but if you watch that there still seems an incredible resistance to simply uttering the words “playoffs are the goal.”
the overall tone here was one imo more so of defensiveness: “if you remember 4 years ago, I said it would take time and patience. Well, you got it. Plan continues.”
And he started out by carefully highlighting that it was his 5th year of GM. At first I was impressed: ok, he’s saying year 5, he’s saying it’s been a long time now and it’s go time.
But he actually brought up year 5 to separate himself from the “13 years” frank led off with
Haha
That's all fine, and I said it should be "go time" when we ended last season but he wanted another year of futility so okay, now it's "go time" so what is he going to do to make it "go time"? Stay the course? Just hire Ruff? I will believe it actually is different, and it is "go time" when I see the roster improvement through free agency and/or trades.
Until then it's just the same old bs.
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7 hours ago, thewookie1 said:
That in of itself is sort of a catch-22; when your team is good the AHL team will naturally become storage for extra players. When your team is building up or tearing down you'll have an influx of youth needing a spot to play and Top 6 AHLers won't sign because they feel they should play on your NHL squad.
I agree with this part; but also feel there's a limit on how much a player can gain from playing in lesser leagues and due to our prospect numbers it creates a bit of a crunch.
True, but the catch 22 comes from the NHL team constantly rebuilding. We don't incrementally improve, we keep tearing down and starting over and changing directions constantly. This is what I'm saying in the other thread. We trade Mitts and now need a 3C (or 2C). We get Byram who is a lesser version of Montour who we already had. It's a constant cycle that gets us nowhere.
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7 hours ago, dudacek said:
Great story.
Pretty sure I’ve heard Kevyn Adams and Seth Appert say exactly the same thing.
Pretty sure Murray and Biro and Mersch and Prow and Davies and Clague and Jost and Tokarski and Cecconi are those players.
Pretty sure Neuchev and Östlund and others were in the press box in the playoffs getting blocked by some of the guys above.
Sabres suck at a lot of stuff, the way they’ve handled the Amerks under Karmanos hasn’t been one of them. They’ve been competitive and they’ve developed players.
You don’t need to make things up to complain about.
Condescending bullcrap.
That list you have given is a garbage list. How many NHL games for that sorry lot? That is NOT a group of NHL depth players.
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3 hours ago, seer775 said:
Cozens doesn't think like a Centre imo. He likes corners, rushes, and playing the front of the net. Playing wing will allow him to focus on scoring.
Samsonov is a highly underrated playoff borne goalie. Leafs waived him, then started him in the playoffs.
Joshua and Tanev are solid. I'd take either over Maroon/OEL/Greenway.
Jost is an upgrade on Krebs / Girgs.
I totally agree and have said this all year. I think he's better on the wing and I don't think his ice vision is great at center. He seems to see and favour one side and hence only one of his wingers. I don't know if it's a bad habit or he thinks too slow for the pace or it's just lazy but it's what he does. There is hope Ruff can correct it though.
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4 hours ago, French Collection said:
2C in Buffalo. I kid.
I am actually concerned that the Sabres plan for center next year might very well be Thompson, Cozens, Krebs, Savoie and that's it.
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1 hour ago, thewookie1 said:
But the AHL is supposed to be the development league for the NHL primarily. If the Amerks are made up of developmental pieces primarily is that not technically supposed to be how all the teams should be? It just feels kind of two faced for the league to be all about development but their more successful set ups aren't anything close to that.
It's supposed to be both though. It's a development league and also a storage facility for your depth players. The Sabres don't seem to value that part very much.
Ideally what you get from that as well is a mix of good character veterans that help teach these kids and they "develop" just being around and watching pros work. The culture you want starts there. If we are creating a culture of "not blocking" these kids are just putting in their time knowing they will get the call after they put in the days. It's stupid.
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4 hours ago, Jorcus said:
I could blame the Sabres for a lot of things but moving on From Even Rodrigues is not one of them. He is a hard tryer but never has been a high output scorer. His best season was in Pittsburgh were he scored 43 points in 82 games. That did enough to get him a decent contract with Florida. He is just a cog in the Panther line up. I don't think we would have wanted to wait the 7 or 8 NHL seasons for him to get to where he is today. There are a lot of guys like him. To me he is an older Peyton Krebs.
You miss the point though. He was never supposed to be a "high output scorer". He's a role player. A competent bottom six player, and what are we all saying this year (and last), "we need to improve the bottom 6" so why? Because we haven't built a roster over the years with our own mix of decent bottom six players.
Yes, he's an older Peyton Krebs. At this point still better than Peyton Krebs, so why the F did we have to have a Peyton Krebs as part of a trade of our superstar? Do you get my point now? We keep creating our own holes.
We now have a hole at 3C because we traded Mitts for a defenseman that is really just a softer version of Brandon Montour. This is why we do not get better.
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1 hour ago, Claude Balls said:
I still have hope, and actually the most hope I've had since Ruff was last here. I really hope the game hasn't passed him by. But when Adams said, I'm not bringing Appert up, I'm looking for a HC with NHL experience. Last person I thought of was Lindy Ruff. He obviously didn't look too hard. But I'm still here, have always loved Lindy, and we'll just wait and see how it plays out. I'm hoping for the best.
BTW, does Lindy still have a house in Buffalo? I thought he still lived there in the off-seasson.
Yes, if I'm not mistaken it's just down the road from Tuch's. I think they could car pool .
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11 minutes ago, Claude Balls said:
Yup, it's pretty ***** laughable at this point. But don't worry, KA hired a new "experienced" coach. Don't get me wrong, Ruff was the best caoch the Sabres have had since the 90's. Pretty sure nothing has changed since then. ***** joke.
I know it's easy to criticize the Ruff hire but he is the first real NHL coach since himself so if you want to stay a fan you have to take that hope. He did pretty well with NJ when they had some goaltending. I think he understands the current game pretty well.
Honestly if Ruff doesn't work out what's left? Nothing but a Pegula sale and that likely won't happen.
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46 minutes ago, Pimlach said:
While I agree that the Sabres gave up on lots and lots of good players. Look at the reason - Continuous incompetent hockey operations and coaching. It’s been constant change since Pegula took over.
Nolan was doomed. Bylsma and Kruger were NHL flashes in the pan. Housley was an ex-Sabre wey-dream.
All the GMs were first timer and tge all git rid of their predecessor’s players.
You can’t blame 5he same guy for Zadorov,
That's what I was saying. We haven't had a real NHL coach since Ruff and now it's Ruff again. But the list in between is laughable. Same for GMs. All green and full of mistakes and then they have to work with a meddling owner.
Just saying every year in the playoffs we see ex Sabres doing just fine. The list of mistakes is LONG.
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Nothing in there about what the "next phase" actually is and he's just sticking to "the plan" so whatever.
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30 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:
One issue with the AHL playoffs is that it favors grinders masquerading as Top 6 forwards and other failed NHLers.
Which is only an issue if you don't build your AHL team with grinders and some failed NHLers.
Rochester is a complete mirror of the Sabres and has the very same roster construction issues. It's not really that surprising.
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and watching Zadorov in these playoffs you have to add him in. Here's the very guy most of us think our D desperately needs/lacks and we'd drafted him. He could have been a lifetime Sabres but no, we didn't think he was worth having either. Geniuses, just total geniuses.
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Remember when the Sabres decided they had no use for E-Rod?
Remember when they decided Montour was garbage and had to go?
Wonderful management we've had over the years and when you watch these guys filling their roles in solid fashion on other teams you have to come to realize it's never been the players (as a whole), it's always been the coaching. This is why Ruff excites me and gives me a little hope. No, he's not the best coach but he's a real NHL coach. We haven't actually had a real experienced NHL coach since.......well, since Ruff. (I don't count Nolan V2 cause that was a screw job tank and no coach could deal with that).
Looks like Bruins will be out in 5.
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3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
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5 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
Yes. Considering he didnt really have a sophomore slump, he just maintained is actually very interesting. I actually think he might be a player that does very well under Lindy. I think Power would do much better in a more structured system because I think his game naturally fits within structure.
As will Clifton.
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Now where are all you guys who said LaFreniere was a bust? I know you're hiding out there 🙂
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9 hours ago, freester said:
Skinner isn’t waiving ntc for anyone except Toronto
UFA in the NHL is fools gold. We need to trade prospects and picks for players.
Yes we do, but we also can use free agency. I would argue that paying a guy like Lindholm big money is worth it and I suspect somebody like Boston will pay him big money but mostly we want to target middle aged guys who ae underpaid on cap tight teams like Clifton was last year. Sure Cliffy's far from perfect, and he is slightly over paid, but he did make the D better than it was.
An aging 2C who could now slip into a 3C role or an underpaid 3/4C with upside. A defensive D man. A couple grinders. The things this team doesn't have right now. Get them any way you can.
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The Sabres should trade the 11th overall pick in the 2024 draft
in The Aud Club
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I'm suggesting that he's a potential player that MIGHT be available on a team that MIGHT be enticed by a draft pick. The thread is a hypothetical idea but I didn't see anybody making a viable suggestion so I asked the question.
Is Laughton a first round pick in value? No, but it might take a first round pick to pry him away from his team. Added to the Sabres current roster we instantly become a better team as Krebs can be 4C where he belongs (if in the NHL at all).
So I ask you, trade the pick so for who? Who would want to make that deal and who will give you what you want for it? Who?
I'd offer that pick to Boston for Trent Frederic but I very much doubt Boston would be interested.