JoeSchmoe
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6 hours ago, Doohickie said:
GOD I hate when people make this statement.
I see both sides of the argument. I'm also someone who despite numerous challenges worked my way out of poverty. Having gone through it, I think it's better to celebrate perseverance than apathy.
Because of my numerous challenges, I think if I could have mentally pigeonholed myself into thinking I'll always be poor because it's society's fault, I might have been more content to stay there. Thankfully, we had more of a suck it up attitude back in the 90s.
Still, some people need more of a leg up than others. I'll always be sympathetic to those people. Manufacturing was always the great equalizer in society. The disappearance of those jobs has been the major difference maker in the widening spread between the haves and the have-nots.
Not everyone has the smarts to be a university grad or the connections to get into the trades. But if they're willing to work hard, they should still have options at earning a liveable wage such that they may one day be able to provide for a better life for their kids. Manufacturing jobs did exactly this. As the number of those jobs declined, it became that much harder to break the cycle of poverty.
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1 hour ago, Pimlach said:
All the really huge problems on this team: Terrible Ownership, experimental GMs, really bad coaches, players not wanting to be here, players complaining about the fans, no ownership for the drought, bad leadership in the locker room, Skinners contract, Powers Contract, Cozens Contract, will Mitts get a contract, the dark and dank Arena, terrible concessions, expensive beer, Matty Ellis, Dan Dunleavy, etc.
And you are obsessing about Anders Bjork?
Nope. But I definitely don't want one of our regular 12 starting forwards to be of his ilk. We trade for a scrub and KA will make sure he's in the lineup. That's a problem. One of many. Way ahead of the beer price or arena which I don't really mind.
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I'm really glad Z scored last night to get us the W and that's definitely tempered my wish to send him down... At least a bit. 😉
I still have my biggest fear where we trade him for another team's cast-off that still has term. Picks- yes. Expiring contract- yes. An Anders Bjork part 2 is the last thing this team needs. KA seems to wait too long to give up on acquired veteran players, no matter how bad they are.
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My daughter had a game out of town, so I missed it. I notice Bryson is way up on his xGF% on the game. Did the eye test match?
Small sample size, but we seem to have a pretty good record with him in the lineup. Do we keep him in once Power comes back? 😉
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I can, and as long as there's hope and progress, I can watch and be happy.
Watching some key players taking a step back this year, and looking seemingly disinterested has brought out a lot of negativity in me I never had before this year.
Also, KA's acquisitions have ticked me off. We're supposed to have a great advanced stats dept, but Clifton and EJ were both ugly advanced stats wise. They're looking every bit the part.
It's like watching Moneyball, but instead of Billy Beane listening to Jonah Hill, he kicks him out of the room and listens to the old guys who like Clifton because "he plays the game the right way" and EJ because "he brings in much needed experience".
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41 minutes ago, TageMVP said:
Well good thing Adams didn't sign Clifton to score 500 goals
This expected goals % is a ratio of expected goals for your team when you're on the ice vs expected goals against.
Eye test wise, he's actually pretty good at generating chances. The numbers support that too. Conversely, the eye test shows he has a lot of brain farts that lead to a lot of high danger chances against. Him and EJ also tend to get hemmed in quite a bit which rack up the low and medium danger chances against.
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2 hours ago, Doohickie said:
I wouldn't. EJ has been worse than I hoped but I think Clifton is okay as a bottom 4 guy. And I recognize bringing EJ in was probably more about the off-ice mentoring of our younger defensemen (Muel, Lil J, Power). I don't have any problem with bringing EJ in.
Clifton is and will continue to be a serviceable defenseman. He's not the best but he's okay in a bottom 4 role.
Clifton is 155 out of 182 in 5 on 5 expected goals % (min 500min played... EJ is 159). I find he's consis out of position on goals against and him and EJ always struggle to win pucks and clear the zone.
On the plus side he leads the team in hits... So depending on how important that is to you it can improve your impressions of him.
Anyhow, these two are by far our worst pairing and KA voluntarily brought them in. Given the cap room, he should have overpaid for someone or gone into the trade market with one of our all too many small F prospects.
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1 hour ago, Doohickie said:
If I had to pick one thing that Kevyn did wrong this offseason it would be the goalie situation. But #2 would be bringing back Okie and Girgs.
I would put Clifton and E Johnson on par with those two factors.
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6 minutes ago, Believer said:
You need a break, @JoeSchmoe… Take a walk… Get some fresh air… Don’t know what the weather’s like where you are… It’s Sunny and 67 in Sarasota… Imagine you are taking a walk down here…😎
Going snowboarding, thanks!
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3 minutes ago, Marvin said:
Girgensons is the type of player who always gets acquired by a contender at the deadline for fifth line depth, if nothing else.
Well if some team wants to take the plunge, let's just hope we get a pick and not a player.
Any player we get back is going to be off the scrap heap. Difference between him and Z though is the player will likely have term left and KA will have him in the lineup dragging down the team down next season too.
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42 minutes ago, inkman said:
I don’t think too many people are here to argue Girgs production. He’s been a good soldier, find him a team for a chance at the cup.
If we ever get good enough to make a cup run, I really hope whoever's GM'ing at the time does NOT bring in a Girgensons at the trade deadline.
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4G and 0A is well under the hockey Mendoza line.
I don't care if he can skate hard into the other team's end and tie up a guy for a while until we eventually lose the puck and the other team takes the puck down the ice for an extended zone pressure. There's a minimum offensive threshold even a checking line must put out.
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1 hour ago, Marvin said:
The OP is trying to send a message to play the game the right way by mistreating someone who has always played the game the right way. The Sabres' already bad reputation around the league would then take another hit. Brilliant!
0 assists in almost 40 games is not playing the right way.
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35 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:
Playoff teams aren't looking primarily to increase their scoring from their fourth line. Playoff teams are looking for a fourth liner that will play hard... That will kill penalties... And that will not hurt them when they're on the ice. Basically... Go out there and eat up 8 to 12 minutes a game without allowing any goals... While our top two lines can get a breather on the bench.
In a lot of cases, that is exactly what playoff teams are looking for.
On this crap team, only Yost and Robinson have a worse goals for % than Girgensons.
He's also 7th out of 8th in PK goals EXPECTED against per 60 (min 25min). Only Krebs is worse.
Edit: missed the stat was expected GA. Moneypuck does not have actual GA per 60 4 on 5.
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If you can get a pick for him, fine. I just don't see a team dumb enough to do it. This is a case of fans falling in love with a player and not looking objectively of what he might have to offer a team that's better than us.
I'll say it again... The only way we get rid of him is if we take back an even bigger problem.
35 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:And his scoring per 60 minutes... Which is the way that you evaluate someone with limited ice time... Isn't that much different than a typical fourth liner around the league.
Amongst forwards with at least 300 5 on 5 minutes played, he's 365 out of 380. What playoff team is looking for that?
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1 minute ago, Pimlach said:
Let’s see as the deadline approaches.
Waive him on the spot, how theatrical. What a positive emotional impact that will have. Should Adams call a team meeting and publicly waive him?
No
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5 minutes ago, Pimlach said:
This is a terrible take. You don’t “lay the hammer” on Z after all these years and just cut him. He is not a problem. This team gets no benefit, and the FO looks bad. Cut him, you still pay him, and he gets picked up for nothing - all you did was show your team your a stupid GM.
You can trade him at the deadline or toss him into a trade package. You get a draft pick. So what. The concept of not wanting a pick or “another Bjork” is childish and unprofessional.
In what world is a team taking a guy with 0 assists in 37 games?
The only way a team takes him on would be to get rid of an even bigger problem i.e. a Bjork.
Waive him and give the spot to Rousek.
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5 minutes ago, TageMVP said:
Of all the problems with this team you choose a 4th line guy to rip on? Lol
In this thread? Yes.
If you look around though you'll see me ripping E Johnson, Clifton, Thompson, and Power plenty too.
I used to rip on UPL but besides today's dud, I've been thankfully wrong on him.
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7 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:
He’s definitely overpaid but would you turn down money if it was offered even if you knew it was more than what you deserved?
100% you gotta take the money! But we don't owe him anything.
4G 0A.
I don't want a 7th rounder. I don't want another Bjork. I want a message sent to the team that underperforming is not tolerated, and it is definitely not rewarded..
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15 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:
He’s earned a chance to win a cup or at least play a bunch of playoff hockey.
He's earned a 💩 ton of money to play some mediocre hockey for this team, and not much else.
I'd rather see Adams lay the hammer down and send a message to this underperforming team.
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After 37 games this year, unless there are active members of the Sabres with burner accounts on here, the entirety of this message board is currently tied with ZG in assists for the 2023-24 season.
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Sorry fanboys... In his prime he was barely serviceable. Now that he's 30 and on the backside of his career, he's done.
For the love of God KA, please let him be some other team's problem next year.
Better yet, send this team a message and waive his Latvian a** down to Rochester. Nobody's picking up his prorated $2.5M... and this will save us from taking some other team's Bjork/Robinson at the trade deadline who'll be inevitably trotted out all next year leading us to yet another drought season.
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I was at the game earlier today. For anyone that might be wondering, I can confirm that once again there was no salute at the end. ❌
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1 minute ago, pi2000 said:
Just win.
If you want to salute or flip off the fans after the game I don't give a *****.... just. *****. win.
I've always watched this team for two things: For the crest, and for RJ.
With RJ sadly gone, only the crest is left. Who the players are, what they do, what they like, don't like, etc means very little to me.
You said it best. Just win.
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GDT/ Buffalo Sabres @ Tampa Bay Lightning Thurs. Feb 29th 7pm, ESPN+ MSG & WGR Radio
in The Aud Club
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Was driving during OT. What a garbage call of the OT by Dunleavy. I had almost no idea of what was going on or who had the puck.
Great win. With UPL's goaltending, EJ out of the lineup, Dahlin staying healthy while he logs big minutes, and Tage Thompson getting some "swag" back (as Dahlin put it)... maybe just maybe... 🤞