JoeSchmoe
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10 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:
That is where I disagree with you. He is better than that. As I said earlier, what I see, he isnt just a guy 'good enough' for penalty killing....to me is is good at it, which gives him a role on this team. Also, while not super productive, he is pretty good for a 4th liner at actually scoring.
This team has had too many players on the 4th line since they have last been good, who just couldn't score at all over the last decade or so (Kaletta, Flynn, Deslaurier, Legwand, Larsson, and many others who played full seasons with 5 goals or less). While Zemgus isn't a first liner of course, he does score at a .5 goals 5v5 per 60 rate....which is in the same area as players like Oloffsson and Okposo over that same period. That isn't insignificant.
I just don't see the hungry young guy who is going to play a role on the 4th line that will be better at penalty killing, better at scoring in that role, and will be so much better that you push a guy out like Zemgus who is also a team leader (as much as his position allows). Unless he suffers a major injury, I want him in this team for at least a few more years in his role.
Given the talent pool we've accumulated, we have the potential to ice 2nd line calibre guys on our 4th line (of course they would see more minutes than a traditional 4th line). I see Z holding up a lineup spot for some of those truly talented players.
I know many here wouldn't want to deviate away from the traditional 4th line formula of crashing, banging, and low event hockey. But if we're ever going to win a cup, it won't be on the back of a high flying 1st line (a la Edmonton, Toronto, Boston, etc)... We just don't have the McDavid's, Matthew's, Marchard's, Kucherov's to do it. Instead, it will be because of our superior depth. Part of that will be our 4th line scoring a lot more than their 4th line. We won't be doing it by icing a line where the mentality is "We might not score a lot, but you're not going to score a lot either".
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11 minutes ago, Doohickie said:
Let him be the Kyle Williams of the Sabres: The long time vet who finally got a peek at the playoffs before retiring... the Moses who saw the Promised Land but didn't quite get to go there.
I like the sentiment, but he's 28. Please tell me the Sabres make the playoffs long before he hits retirement age. 🙈
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My best lineup this year has Skinner, TNT, Tuch, Krebs, Cozens, Quinn, JJP, Mitts, Oloffson, Hino, Okposo, and Asplund. Girgs and Sheehan are depth guys. And likely needed in case of injury. Of course we waive Bjork.
With more talent likely to emerge next year (Savoie, Kulich(?), and dare I say the "kid" from South Buffalo), I think we will win more without him.
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8 minutes ago, Marvin said:
Um, for years on end, the checking line that got nearly historical unfavourable deployment game-in-game-out but had clearly above average possession stats has had one constant: Zemgus Girgensons. Maybe if he got more typical deployment for a checker rather than bottom 30 all-time unfavourable deployment 5 years running, including 2 of the top 3 places (#1 and 4 are Paul Gaustad), he might hit 15 goals. He does the dirty jobs exceedingly well, which coaches, GMs, and scouts appreciate. Every good team can use a player like Girgensons.
I'd say the latest evidence is that Okposo carried the checking line but if you've got numbers that say otherwise, let's see'em.
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I guess I'm in the minority here. I like Z's effort, but I just don't think he's very good. Yes, he got uncharacteristically hot at the beginning of last year, but for the most part, he's been a large part of the umpteen seasons with no playoffs.
Let's load up on skill guys and let them kill penalties... Like the Bruins. And then when we're not shorthanded, our 4th line will seriously outscore their 4th line.
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With the log jam on forward, I have him as my 13th man with JJP in the starting lineup, Bjork waived, and Sheahan sent down for call up in case of injury.
Would he take a 13th man job given his leadership role? We kind of need him for depth until we get a few more of the young prospects ready.
I feel he's about the last of the JAGs that have made us suck for so long. It's fun seeing him throw the odd hit, but it's not fun watching him blow the number of scoring chances he blows.
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GUARANTEED - If the Sabres do as well as what we're thinking they will, the know-it-alls at the Athletic et al will come up with the numbers to show how they saw this coming all along.
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51 minutes ago, inkman said:
This is how I feel about rankings
This is how I care about rankings.
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Let's make a positive example out of the first national reporter that looks at the team with a similar lens as we do. All these guys are lazy.
Going into 2005, there were many positive signs with our depth chart that were missed by everyone (the emergence of Miller, Pommer, Roy, Vanek, etc in the minors) plus an already decent core (Drury, Briere, etc). I feel like this year is similar... Maybe a bit earlier in the process though.
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14 hours ago, mjd1001 said:
No one really outside Buffalo has any reason to think they will be better and say so
I agree with this.
However, most of the rankings have them as being worse.
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I heard this on WGR and for the first time was motivated to actually put money down.
I looked at 3 different sites and saw a 13 to 15% house take on bets (-113 to -115). Are they all that high? I assumed it would be 5% ballpark.
Seeing that makes me not want to bet just out of principle. How does anyone think they can beat the house with that kind of markup?!
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12 minutes ago, French Collection said:
Maybe a stint in the AHL gets him to get some confidence back so he can contribute a little bit when asked to do so.
I don't think it's possible for him to be anything but a boat anchor at the NHL level. The game just happens too fast for him to figure out what to do. It's too bad because he is a decent skater.
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No one has given a bump for Power being in the lineup and even a minimum amount of research should tell you Quinn, the AHL Rookie of the Year should have an impact. That much I'd expect from a legit source. They should have realized we're better in net with Comrie too vs the AHL tending we ahd last year.
I'd give them a pass on them not knowing about Samuelsson and the likelihood of Peterka having an impact. I'd also give them a pass on not being aware of Dahlins progression throughout last year.
Lastly, I'll give the writers a pass for not seeing what our biggest is overall improvement will be. That is us not icing the flaming puke line of Bjork-Eakin-Hayden for 12 to 15 minutes a game! Heaven help my TV set if I see Bjork anywhere near the ice in opening night.
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Pretty much every website that comes up on my Google search has the Sabres as being worse next year than they were this year. There really isn't any explanation for it considering they lost no one of any consequence (only the really bad players), and will have a lot of high end prospects joining the team. Barring injury, they also look to have legit NHL goaltending this year as opposed to the revolving door of AHL and below netminders they had last year. They just didn't make any splashy headline grabbing signings.
Expect the same sites to either a) be surprised when the Sabres outperform their low expectations, or b) claim they saw it all along.
No one will own up to the fact they just are sloppy/lazy writers and analysts.
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I have Quinn ahead of Power on my list.
Aside Edit: There needs to be a forum etiquette rule that any paywall links have a warning. I appreciate that key posts of the article were posted, and I should have known because it's the Athletic, but my mind was temporarily elsewhere (on that note, GO BILLS) and I clicked only to be disappointed.
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9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Idk if I'd call them meaningless. There's risk with what the Sabres just did with Tage.
There's a risk for sure. But these guys are all completely uninformed. Maybe they should watch some games instead of baffling us all with bull-💩.
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Thompson's unbelievable shot goes completely unmentioned in all of these articles people are posting. The leverage he gets on it due to his size is duplicated by few in the league. This is something the eye test absolutely has to see. The BS stats and comparisons these chumps keep rolling out are absolutely meaningless. Nick Suzuki is 5 fricken 11 and plays a completely different game. Robert Thomas 6 foot nothing. Totally different players. Chumps!
Last year, partly from being a center (and often closer to the net) and partly from coaching, he got his shot off a lot quicker than when he'd always go for that extra toe drag. That's it.
As long as he's playing with decent linemates that enable him to see enough pucks in high danger areas, I see a low probability of this not panning out. Save us the stupid articles and talking heads and instead, let's just get excited for the season!!!!
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OP- sorry for your loss, that is an incredibly sad story.
20 hours ago, Ogre said:I buried both of my parents within a nine month span, 2016/2017.
$40G total and they had some pre-planning AND it involved cremation in both cases (which is the cheapest option, which is what they wanted being the humble, reasonable people that they were in life).
I find your attitude concerning this to be distasteful.
You once referred to me as a petulant child. This behavior is far and above. If you didn’t like the post, ignore it.
To respond as you did is to expose your frailty.As a public service to anyone who may be faced with the same sad predicament, I too recently lost both my parents. Neither one had much money to their names- and in both cases, they'd rather see my brother and I with what little money they had rather than give it to a rich (and in my opinion- slimy) funeral director. We're Canadian, so maybe the costs may be different in the US.
In our case, we had them cremated through a low cost local service instead of a full fledged funeral home. It was about $3000 each. The service is very professional and comprehensive and helped us through the whole process. I would recommend them to everyone. If there's a similar service in your community don't hesitate to seek them out.
Instead of having a service in a funeral home, we rented a hall for both parents and had a celebration of life. We catered everything in ourselves. In my mom's case we really dialed it up with the food and had an open bar but still came back under $2000 for the festivities. We also had a church service for her and contributed $500 towards the parish. For my dad, we kept a closed bar as he was a proud recovered alcoholic so it was even cheaper.
For my dad, we scattered his ashes. For my mom, we buried them in a cemetery. All in, I'd say that was about $2000 with a simple flat stone.
When I go, I want my wife and kids to get the money the funeral industry would otherwise take from them. Throw a big BBQ somewhere in my honour... hopefully outside if the weather is nice. Afterwards, take the savings to go on a a trip of a lifetime somewhere and have fun in my memory.
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On 8/25/2022 at 2:11 PM, thewookie1 said:
It's akin to College hockey level play minus the hitting.
My daughter plays hockey and I support women's hockey all the way. Just accept it for what it is (entertaining hockey)... but don't try to make comparisons to the men's game.
In real terms the Canadian or US women's teams are about on par with a good Midget (17-18 year old) team. In the Midget age group, the top players are already playing junior, so it's good but not great hockey.
Last year prior to the Olympics, the Canadian women played against some Jr A teams (1 level below CHL) and they got their butts handed to them. They knew going in they were going struggle, but they used it as a training opportunity. All this with the boys not being able to hit like they're used to.
An NCAA college men's team is well ahead of Jr A. They would beat the Canadian and US women's team by a minimum of 15-20 goals.
All that said, it doesn't matter. The world needs more girls playing hockey (and other sports) instead of worrying about going to the mall and how their makeup looks. Accept that the top women are the top women, and watch it for that. No one ever complains Serena Williams can't beat Nadal or Federer and she's as famous as any men's player.
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1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:
Close to 50% of people in the United States are likely to think the same thing of the USA.
True, but if the US had our government and media that number would be 90%+.
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5 hours ago, nfreeman said:
Be careful with the NFL hubris my friend. TP is 71 and KP just had what seems like a serious health scare -- and Toronto will still be an economic powerhouse in 150 years.
Nothing lasts forever.
Our government and media is hellbent on driving the country into full on Socialism. They've also been driving industries into the ground through various means (regulation, taxation, etc).
The way things are going, Toronto/Canada is just as likely to be a Venezuela as it is an economic powerhouse.
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1 hour ago, Taro T said:
The BEST part of the Heritage Classic was Bissonette's meltdown. Consider the source indeed.
The Toronto sportscaster also completely shot down Buffalo as a natural option with the typical Torontonian, "Why would he ever want to go to Buffalo?!"
I really hate Toronto... Especially the media (not just the sports media either).
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I don't know where a link is, but FAN590 in Toronto was talking about rumours of Leafs GM making inquiries on Patrick Kane.
The real story though was that Paul Bissonnette had the analysis that this is a no-brainer deal, and Kane absolutely would want to take a "hometown discount" to play in Toronto. 🤮
Edit: found the quote...
”The rumblings have started and people are going to talk about the cap space as well, you’re gonna see the greatest, as it stands, U.S. hockey player to ever play the game, pass the torch to Auston Matthews in his final couple seasons.” He added, ”He’s going to probably re-sign after the $10 million he’s making and take a hometown discount just like [Mark] Giordano did, just like everybody else.”
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IMO Pekar is no longer a prospect.
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When is the Time to Trade Girgensens?
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Given the chance, many high end guys can kill penalties, just as well as a 4th liner, they just don't. This is because coaches would rather have their JAGs expend that energy, to rest the high end guys for scoring.