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2 minutes ago, nfreeman said:
I respect Modo's opinion, even if he gets a bit grouchy sometimes, and I find Gronborg's beard highly compelling, but ultimately this is where I am as well.
I also think it's important to note, as I posted in the other coaching thread, that Gronborg has coached the Swedish national team and a team in the Swiss league, but he has not coached in a high-level "everyday" league.
I wonder if Gronborg would come on board as an assistant as others have suggested?
I might even make you a phat panny one day.
And yes, im pretty sure Rikard would accept a assistant position if the terms is right.-
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18 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
Well I read it and watched it and I appreciate your effort, but I'm not convinced. There's still too many Ralph similarities in the sales pitch imo and he's simply not proven in the NHL. I want a sure thing, a coach I can be sure knows how to win in the NHL so that if they still lose it's all on the players and we don't go through this yet again in a few years while contemplating what the disconnect between Dahlin and the Sabres is..................
As for Granato with him that'll never work. Cannot imagine Granato being okay with being an assistant to a new HC that has similarities to himself after being the interim. I'm sure the man has too much pride for that. Recipe for dysfunction imo.
And still you were one of the guys that were ALL IN on Ralph, you personally bought into his bullsh1t 110%.
"Posted October 13, 2019
I'm all in now.
I don't know if we will be good enough to make the playoffs this year, but I firmly believe from what I've seen this year that there is a huge change taking place and the train is finally on the right track. Now it's simply a question of injuries, luck, goaltending streaks (ours and the opposition's) and how fast the prospects like Cozens and Asplund etc develop. "
That is just one of your belowed quotes of your thoughts when it comes to Ralph. You literally loved him when he was hired.
We disagree you and i when it comes to Rikard Gronborg, just as we did when it came to our knowledge Sabres was hireing Ralph.
I cannot convice you, i really cant, so let's just leave it as it is now and see what the outcome is, no matter what we have 10 seasons in a row without playoffs, no matter what the sabres have tried they have failed and yet once again here we are.
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7 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:
Fire like Linde Ruff, man I miss the run em boys during Ottawa series... could Gronberg bring this much passion--- looks like it... me likey
That is some legit sh1t right there. Fair enough.
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2 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
It's possible, but I'm just losing my patience with this team. I want a guy I know for sure can win in the NHL not a guy who maybe can win in the NHL.
I want a situation where I can check things off the list so we can move on to fix other things. Like the RK thing, too many people just think all we need is a new coach and it's all fixed. I want a situation where we know for sure it's not the coach and then everyone will know these players are a bunch of crap once and for all (especially if we don't trade the "core").
So 1. get an established good coach and implement the proven system 2. Get a goalie 3. Either start winning there, or start getting different players. In that order.
My mind's pretty much made up on some of these players, but with a good coach I'd be willing to give them a final chance.
If Rikard doesn't win, in 2 years we're right back where we were. Or rather you will be, I'll be on a Kraken site.
So,
We already had this with Dan Bylsma did we not?
Please take your time and read my thread about Rikard. -
Just now, Huckleberry said:
With that type of injury, even with surgery, I question his mobility and if he can still play at some intensity ( not shy away from checks). Maybe its best to trade him for the best return possible.
I honestly do not agree with the trading part. I think Jack is one h3ll of a player and someone we should do all in our efforts to keep.
Trading Jack for a good return or not doesnt matter to me honestly, because imo Jack is what we need and cannot continue without.
Why?, because the damage that has been done is so deep that it is actually enough fuel if we reach playoffs. -
4 minutes ago, Doohickie said:
Egos.
Who's HC and who's Associate HC?
Two HC?
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16 hours ago, Doohickie said:
We have a new Buffalo bar in Ft Worth... this makes three (two locations of Buffalo Bros, and the new one: Nickel City)
It's nothing special, but it feels like an old neighborhood tavern in Buffalo. Genny Cream on tap. Light meals inspired by Buffalo and Detroit, including pizza logs, fried bologna, wings by the pound, and a pretty good Detroit-style coney dog.
A cool thing: They have adult happy meals, such as a slider with cheese, fries, and a shot & a beer for $13. ❤️
Id join you in a heartbeat if i could.
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Just now, Doohickie said:
Based on that quote, he's a Swedish Donnie Granato. We already have a Donnie Granato, I'm not sure why we need to swap him out with another one.
As i said in the interview thread,
Why not put them together?-
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On 6/3/2021 at 7:54 PM, LGR4GM said:
Beniers is a 6'1" 175lb Center. He probably just broke his ankle at the Worlds today and a lot his game is based on elite skating.
That said here is readings on Beniers:
1) Dobber Prospects
https://dobberprospects.com/player/matthew-beniers/
2) Last Word on Sports
https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2021/04/03/matthew-beniers-scouting-report/
3) Hockey Writers
https://thehockeywriters.com/matthew-beniers-2021-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/
4) Elite Prospects Rinkside (paid content, will post clips)
No scouching report yet, but here are highlights
Shift by shift
@LGR4GM
These threads of yours is some good sh1t, no joke. Keep it up.-
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1 minute ago, steveoath said:
Looks like they both are unsure what to do and need a middleground.
This news is not good at all. Obviously Jack has no faith in Sabres, that is unfortunate. Hope it changes quick with Sabres hireing the right coach that can convice Jack to trust Sabres and stay.-
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Like it or not as stated, most of you dont know Rikard Gronborg and u dont even care enough to research him and i totally understand that, with all due respect.
And if you dont care to take 10 mins to read, then dont.
But here it is and this is my take of Rikard Gronborg
Rikard Gronborg52 years old, married to Terra dawn and they have a daughter named Chloe.
He has been living in the us for about 20 years, has both us citizen and swedish membership.
Rikard Gronborg was not much as a player, he played as a defender and when you look at his career as player it is not impressive at all,
we could compare Rikard with Phil H, but in the end we all know that what u did as a player dont really affect the way you coach (lol in silence @ phil)
The coaching careeer of Rikard Gronborg really took the next step when he became assistance coach for Swedish juniors, he managed to affect everyone so much with his furious and instinctive and precise coaching that there was no other outcome that he would be the next big coach in Sweden, we all could see it over here and eventually he took over and in his first year as head coach he won it all.These are the players he coached that won world juniors 2012, and i believe u know some of them pretty well yea?
Many players in this tourney is in the top of NHL today.
After this Rikard went on coaching juniors for another 2 years before heading for the big game as head coach for the swedish national team.
His first year as head coach he won it all, and then he repated that the year after. 2017 and 2018.
Obviously the name Rikard Gronborg became very respectful and the reason for why he was on the table as head coach for Buffalo Sabres, same time as Ralph Kreuger.
Unfortunatly Rikard Gronborgs ultimate dream got dismantled by Sabres choosing Ralph K. We all know what happened with that.
Rikard Gronborg instead accepted a 2 year offer from Zürich lions, and he took them to playoff 2 years in a row and now he is once again as stated in another thread one of the ones been interviewed by Sabres.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here some quotes from Rikard Gronborg,
Rikard Gronborg:
" To me, it’s the ride itself that’s fun,” Gronborg said, reflecting on his coaching career. “It’s a journey that I’m really enjoying. No matter what level you’re at, just being able to support myself coaching hockey, which is a privilege itself, and then you are always trying for new challenges and stuff. It’s just kind of a situation where, am I lucky to do this? Yeah. But luck is also you prepare for the opportunity and the opportunity presented itself and I feel pretty prepared for doing this, and part of the preparation has gone through Great Falls. "Rikard Gronborg:
" I’ve been in the US for quite some time, I’m a US citizen. I came over and played college hockey at St. Cloud State University. Probably the best time in my life with everything, obviously doing school work at the same time as playing hockey is a pretty amazing thing to do.After I was done I had three years of eligibility there, I moved back to Sweden, back to Stockholm and finished off my career there for a couple years. And when I got back to the US I went back to school and finished my degree at St. Cloud, and they asked me to become an assistant and that was my first year of dipping my toe into the coaching profession.
That was almost 20 years ago and I’ve been coaching since then. The last 10 years I’ve been with the Swedish national team. I worked my way up from being a coach with the U18, up to U20, and now I’m the head coach for the national team. To make a long story short there, that’s kind of my career of coaching. I’ve coached in different levels in the US and Canada. I coached in different junior leagues in the US and I coached in the CHL one year with the Spokane Chiefs. "
Rikard Gronborg take on why he maybe would fit in NHL,
" That’s a great question. I consider myself more of a hybrid to be perfectly honest with you. I’ve coached against some great coaches in North America and I’ve coached against some great coaches in Europe. There are greats minds of hockey in both places. I think it’s just a matter of making a decision or going outside the box a bit for the decision makers and maybe having an interest in European coaches.The game is so small right now when it comes to knowing what each other is doing. It’s so universal, the similar things that you bring up, and I think we are all stealing from each other and the same thing with North Americans. I think it’s just a matter of time, I think it’s just a matter of the people who are making those decisions.
There are not many jobs, first of all, I mean there are only 31 teams. I think it’s a two-way street of European coaches making more available and the decision-makers in North America to have more interest in European coaches. "
Do you think NHL GM’s are too afraid because of the perceived differences in styles of play? The NA game vs the European game as it’s said.
Rikard Gronborg:
" I don’t think it is anymore. I think it’s pretty universal. Like I said, there is always certain things… with the Russian national team, or the Finns that’s kind of their DNA, or the core of their coaching, and the way they’re playing.
At the same time, I think it’s very universal because when you get to those big tournaments, I’m talking the Olympics with NHL players or the World Cups or even the World Championships, with NHL players coming back to the national teams. They’re used to playing in North American rinks, against North American players, in a North American environment.
And those are the type of players I’ve been coaching for the last few years, so it’d be kind of stupid of me to play the same way the Swedes did in 1995 and expect to have success that way. I think the game right now is so universal, I don’t think there’s a big difference. There is a tactical difference when it comes to a larger or smaller rink, but other than that the way you work on your players, the way you prepare your players before the game I feel is pretty universal. "
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Another thing that i've mentioned more than once is that he is so utterly good to get beneath the skin of the other teams coaching staff.
He has done this with perfection many times, he is a ***** beast and he loves it.
2014 vs Russia, he got under the skin of the russian coach so much that he wanted Rikard Gronborg to meet him outside.
Sweden then won this game with 2-1 and went to the finals.
2 months ago in the playoffs two swedish coaches met and this was the outcome, he did the same here with Dan Tangenas, which ranted more than once that he thought Rikard Gronborg is a f-cking re-ard, and as i mentioned earlier in another thread when it cooled down they had a coup of coffee together.
With all this said,
Look i know im right about Rikard Gronborg, what i wish but cannot do is foresee the future about Rikard Gronborg and Buffalo Sabres,
All i can say is that he is not some random "euro" coach that some of you might believe he is, he is a very very good coach and im sure he would do great in NHL, how good is for the future to tell but hey, it is what it is right now. 10 seasons without playoffs, this org need someone like Rikard Gronborg and if he get hired as HC, i will be here stating "i told you so" when we reach the playoffs.
Atleast that would feel awesome, a feeling we all love when we are right with our opinions. Sure gonna suck horse D if im wrong, but im not.
So spit on that boys,
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4 minutes ago, Hoss said:
There are a lot of successful coaches that have taken the same path as failed ones.
Fir the record, I’m not necessarily arguing for Gronberg as much as I am the weak Ralph argument against him.
No offense,
Gronborg.
Gronborg is so damn good getting under the skin of the "enemy" coach, here is a clip from 2 months ago in the playoffs in the swiss league. They are both rly good coaches imo and the other guy is screaming to Gronborg that he is a f-cking ret-rd etc, they both ended up with a coup of coffee after the game though but yea..
Gronborg did the same with the headcoach of russia,
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24 minutes ago, pi2000 said:
They have similar head coaching experience tho... exclusively Euro national or bush league euro league teams.
Do better.
Ralph coached in a trash league though back in the days, that league is like comparing echl and nhl with NLA. The swiss league has the money and quite good hockey indeed, and mainly the reason for most players that dont make the final step to nhl, same with coaches actually cuz the money is so good and Switzerland is a very nice country to live in - if compared to russia and khl when speaking money for example.
But as coaches, Ralph and Rikard may have similar experiance from coaching on national level but the difference between them two is as huge as from you to the moon. Not even compareable. Rikard knows how to win, he knows what it takes to form a bunch of NHL players to a ***** lethal weapon, Ralph does not. Just saying.
7 minutes ago, Radar said:Bylsma the exception in NHL experience. The rest ? Still believe if we're not hiring an established successful NHL head coach why not keep Granato? Only reason I can see balking is he's in the organization. That is not a reason that he can't be a good coach.
Granato would be great together with Gronborg. Im sure of it.
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3 minutes ago, nfreeman said:
@MODO Hockey -- it looks like Gronborg's main experience is coaching the Swedish national team, plus coaching a team in the Swiss league for the past couple of years -- is that right?
Unless I'm missing something, that means he hasn't been a HC in an "everyday" pro hockey league other than a couple of years in the Swiss league, which isn't a high-level league.
That seems like a very big leap to the NHL.
You are correct,
He has coached in the us before but near this level.
But in order to succeed on a national level with a bunch of NHL players, on a short notice with a very stressful schedule you need to be really good at what you do.
Coaching on national level includes a bunch of tourneys before the big one but its not like coaching a team with same players day in and day out for 7-8 months ish. Point taken, but weve seen succesful coaches in NHL fail on national level as well so im not convinced it only has to do with experiance from NHL today eventhough it sure as hell help alot knowing ur "enemys".
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6 minutes ago, Kong said:
Krueger (20 games), Housley (asst. coach experience but no hc), Ron Rolston. All Pegula hires. I bet Gronberg is a fine coach but I want someone with extensive experience and knowledge of the NHL game so strategies against NHL teams, players and coaches are a built-in benefit to the organization. Boudreau is my choice.
Yea my bad, i ment experiance from coaching within NHL. They both have 4 and 3 seasons from coaching in NHL as far as i know, just not as head coach but hey go look at Granato, he did quite well with no experiance either, with a insanely broken team. I dont think its all about NHL experiance today, its just that its more common and in Sabres case its easyier to believe in than not.
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1 minute ago, PerreaultForever said:
So what I think you're saying is a guy with MODO in his user name has a pro Swedish slant, what a shock 🙂
You might be right about him, but idk if I want to sit through another season of a coach with his own learning curve. I don't think Euro hockey will work in the playoffs, or even in the second half of the regular season. It's a failed idea imo. Gallant, on the other hand, knows how to get the most out of his players and he can win in this league.
Where does euro hockey come from? Sorry but you are wrong in this one because you just dont know or care enough about Rikard Gronborg, and u know im right about that.
He is not a "euro" coach and that is why he has been successful, because he coach like you do in nhl, he just mixes the experiance he has from "both" to be able to get as much as possible out of the current team he is responsible for.
Listen, i wont argue with you on this one, all im saying is that please research Rikard more.
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4 minutes ago, WildCard said:
Housley. Ralph had barely any.
What? Phil had 4 seasons with Nashville did he not? Ralph 3 seasons with Edmonton.
Experiance, but not as actuall hc, which was what i ment with my question so my bad if my question was not that clear so to speak.
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12 minutes ago, WildCard said:
It's the same exact thing as Krueger i.e. the narrative is people are afraid to take a chance. While that may be true, maybe it's also true that he's just as bad as Krueger. It's hard to tell, but I don't think it's a risk the Sabres management are going to double down on.
Ralph has never won jack sh1t, Ralph sat as a chairman for a english soccerteam for 6 years and got hired for his bs visions. Rikard on the other hand has won big, more than once and is a hybrid coach. They are nothing a like my friend, Rikard was on the table same time as Ralph and they bought Ralphs bs unfortunatly.
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1 minute ago, Kong said:
I don't want another coach without NHL experience. We've had our faces rubbed in the dirt with all the inexperience. I want a coach who already knows the tendencies of all the opposing coaches, players and teams. Please no more outside the box hirings and please don't ask the NHL for recommendations. I've never heard of a team asking for the league to recommend a coach or GM. How embarrassing.
Who did sabres hire without nhl experiance as a hc? Enlighten me.
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34 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
Well yes, sadly, it is still possible to get worse.
It seems like they are looking for a coach to fit the players rather than bringing in a new idea and building around that. It is doubling down on what is already proven to be a failed idea.
I honestly cant see it beeing worse than the hire of Ralph.
Ralph was hired exactly for the reason you mention, he had an idea, they filmed Ralph walking around the arena like a "god" speaking to staff etc, his vision was mindblowing according to many and everyone bought into his BS.
A fragile, lost and such disabled org as the Buffalo Sabres are in need of a god d@mn saint, is Rikard Gronborg what they need? Yes, i firmly believe so. He is everything Ralph is not, do many agree with me? No.
Not many were convinced Linus Ullmark would be something we wanted to keep when he was introduced to the team. Not many believed me when i said Viktor Olofsson would be the best powerplay weapon this org have seen in a long time, and now not many believe Rikard Gronborg is what this org need. It is what it is.
All im saying without sounding cocky, i bet my life on that if Rikard Gronborg is hired ww will be in the playoffs with him.
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2 hours ago, Brawndo said:
And now, we should pray
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2 hours ago, Taro T said:
Hall didn't stink because of Krueger IMHO. He stunk because Eichel was playing at ~75% and Hall is a passenger (a very talented passenger, but a passenger none the less) and couldn't carry the line on his own.
Krejci can carry Hall & Hall magnifies the effect. Had Eichel been healthy & Adams found a goalie to help Ullmark, this season wouldn't have seen a 35% decrease in viewership nor a desperate need to trade Hall. Ymmv.
To be frank, i'm not convinced by this theory when it comes to Sabres.
The entire team was utterly very bad under 2 years with Ralph, at first Ralph managed to make the players believe in his total bs way of playing hockey, they got a 10 game win streak and everyone was cheering and trowing caps all over the place. Hell, he literally made almost everyone believe in his bs. (i never did, not for a second, and not saying this now knowing the facts)
That is what it took for all teams to read Ralph like a ***** childs book, 10 games, Ralph had nothing to counter it with because he literally had nothing in his own book, it was this easy playstyle or nothing, it worked in a trash league in the austrich mountains that is worse than ECHL, but it sure as hell didnt work in NHL and we could all see it.
This obviously made an entire sack of elite players to stop believing in his system and coching eventhough they are tought to always go with the coach no matter what. We could all see it on the ice, and in the end it would not have mattered if Jack was 100% healthy and we had another good goalie, we still would have ended up last or close to it. Because of Ralph.
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5 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
I'm really not liking the direction this seems to be heading................
Could anything be worse than what is has been is the question you should ask your self.
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If anyone can do it it will be Rikard. He has the tools to coach on NHL level, he has been living in the us for 20 years and has the experiance required to succeed with elite players.
But most likely this wont happen, this org is to keen to hire trash, aslong as they are mediatrained.
Edit: I also believe that Rikard is the one that can make Jack take the leap to become the captain he should've been already.-
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Eichel to Meet with Sabres to Discuss Options regarding Neck Injury Next Week
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Dont be to sure. It will also depend on what coach they will hire.