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You guys seem to be the ones that want to make this a black thing.

I mean what could of happened to make it OK? What could of happened to make it more wrong? Are we waiting for an "investigative report" or something. It's a freaking bar fight. Some idiot said or did something and it started. I'm sorry to say it, but drunk idiots at clubs ALL ACT THE SAME EXACT WAY. Sorry for the stereotype. But I don't know what breaking bombshell you're waiting for that means we're not allowed to comment and judge. The "N" word? I guess that would exonerate him and make everything OK.

Here's cell phone footage of part of the fight, if that helps. https://www.readfulapp.com/site/PhillyNews?tag=Pro%20Sports&item=56b8d8e383966a0434ef6433 Frankly, there's not much to "know". I've seen or been involved in dozens of these types of altercations since I was a teen. Somebody started it or there was miscommunication. There's no bombshell or smoking gun to be found. It's just a drunken club fight we're making a big deal out of.

Let me change that: "Yo, we just beat up a group of guys we later found out were cops". Still a great story.

Ugh. Let's not get PC here. It absolutely matters that they were cops, off-duty or not. It goes from generic story to GREAT STORY. If your buddy came home from the club and told you he just beat up some cops, would you say "why does it matter they were cops? why do you have to mention it?"

Reports are Meek Mill was in attendance. http://phillyinfluencer.com/2016/02/report-lesean-mccoy-allegedly-assaulted-and-hospitalized-philly-police-officers/

"LeSean McCoy romantically involved with 3 off-duty officers" would make a better story.

I feel like there's so much self-policing about that kind of stuff now I don't see the difference. I mean they don't even mention the race of the perp half the time on the local news nowadays, even though it's blatantly obvious that it's important. I agree that people's perceptions are different.

In fact, it's pretty much guaranteed McCoy will get charged now. It's out in the media and it makes the Philly PD looks like a bunch of girls. And Philly PD can't afford a soft reputation in a rough city like that. Especially to get beat up by a famous inner-city role model like McCoy. It's bad enough already with the "Don't Shoot" stuff.

So I'm still not getting why it's a problem that the officer moved his bottle to a different table. Why would the players care? Drunkenness? But I totally understand standing up for one of your friends in an altercation with (probably) a big group of guys. It sounds like they had no idea those guys were officers. I've stood up for my friends before and later learned it was blatantly my friend's fault. I generally agree. But you know it matters. First because it makes a great story, second because cops hate losing and will go after you if you get one up on them. Third because the media sold their souls to the devil.

Should be 4 on 3 in OT if there's a penalty. Can't put refs in a position to give games away like this. Especially after the interference no call a shift earlier.

Good points. I've stopped posting in hockey-related threads around the time I was attacked for suggesting Eichel was playing lazy. I felt that if I couldn't speak my mind on hockey, what was the point in posting here? I live in Florida now, I think the only reason I even come around anymore is to feel some sort of connection to the city. The thing is, sometimes the stuff from "outer space" only seems that way because it's outside the box. There is always something to it. When I hear people label it "crazy" and say "nobody agrees with you", I roll my eyes. I don't think PA is crazy in this thread. I don't think I'm crazy for thinking Kane might be a problem down the line. We're just speaking our truth. When we're attacked for saying what we believe, not with logic but with insults, we strike back. So maybe it's my overall frustration with this board spilling over. A great poster on this forum got banned, and now another really good one gets attacked for something relatively minor. What did they have in common? They were willing to criticize sacred cows and speak their minds even if it was against the grain. So yes, I feel like a brave truth-speaker. And perhaps I'm full of myself, but that's a mark on my character, not on my ideas and intuition. And besides, PR control of message boards is hardly a "maniacal" idea, even third party ones. Even if the mods aren't in on it, I'd bet a lot of money there are Sabre employees or international contractors posting on this site and others with the sole purpose of monitoring and leading discussion in certain directions. Bots even. When the team is in the third or fourth year of a stink, and criticizing the owner is taboo, it's not natural.

What is a substantiated claim? Do you want me to link to a research paper about SabreSpace conformity? Add a Reddit upvote/downvote button on this site and it's true nature will appear pretty quickly.

To me at least, the comment means that Pegula's "I'll dig another well" comment was fantasy. This Toronto thing, no matter how minor posters want it to be, tells us the Sabres are already undertaking risk management due to the team's poor performance. We're starting to see how Pegula handles a potentially sinking ship. Will he throw fan loyalty out the window? What kind of man is he really now that we're past the puff pieces? Let's find out.

What does that have anything to do with what we're discussing here?

I wouldn't consider you a "hive-mind defender" like I would some other people, but I've never seen you post a provocative opinion on this board on par with what PA posted in this thread. I'm sure you have a lot of respect for him, but once you post something like he did and have to deal with the ad hominem attacks, you'll see the amount of courage and thick skin it takes. Even I can take so much before I need to take a break. To then be warned for it and then have his defenders be chided for "being ungrateful to SDS". Just a very Soviet Union feel here.

It's not fun to post if you're fighting the hive mind all the time. Give it a try sometime. You would have more respect for PA.

Raising an eyebrow at the Sabres organization is enough.

You want every fan to attend 40 games a year? For a bottom of the standings team? Not every Sabres fan lives in East Amherst and has a cushy middle class job.

Laughable. And there's a reason I put trolls in quotation marks. Yeah let's never question authority.

Cuse fans would be pissed regardless of where it was written. Just the thought of Georgetown fans being accommodated by the team would make them barf. And was the "pitiful commentary" remark directed towards me or fans in general? If it was me, then how PC can you get?

The product does suck. And now that it isn't improving fast enough, they are looking for butts in seats wherever they can get them. Would you say that's our fault?

Welcome to the dark side.

I just know that if the Carrier Dome started advertising in the Georgetown paper about how much they love Hoyas, riots would break out.

Russ Brandon has never struck me as a guy who actually even likes sports. He's reached a very high point in an ultra-competitive industry. Look I used to work in marketing. One of the quickest way to get yourself ingratiating with the guys on top is to find a way to increase the bottom line at any costs. If you need to screw over your customers to do it, the question you ask is "would we get away with it?" and not "are we being loyal?". So I get it. And I get that Brandon probably knows as much about hockey as my mother and needs to prove himself ASAP. But where the hell is Pegula in all of this? The billionaire who got the city to spread it's legs over a tearful press conference. His actions with the Sabres since he purchased the Bills have been far different from his words that day. I think PA sensed a phoniness. Ghost mentioned his concern for the city to me before he got banned. The Pegula/Bills press conference told me all I need to know about how Pegula truly feels about the Sabres. Like dating the average looking girl in order to get with her hotter friend. Slick, but messed up. There's something fishy going on here and some posters are beginning to sniff it out. Warning PA seems to me to be part of a slow plan to get rid of the "trolls" and turn this forum into pure conformity. Something similar has been happening on TBD. At the very least the mods don't like people criticizing ownership if the reason isn't "valid". To which I say, why would the mods care if they have no interests tied up with One Buffalo? I understand getting annoyed. But warning long-time posters who seem genuine about their concerns? Fishy fishy fishy.