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That turnover was ugly

Every time a team plays from behind the net with Ulmark in goal I breath hard.

Should have made that save.

No way Ulmark could see that one

Going to be interesting next few days for sure.

The question is who pushes him out?

Good period I'd say.

The drop pass looked bad. Other than that so,so.

I always thought Roy was guilty of that a lot.

No

You're right, Thorny, and I hate to say that. I should not have said objective. Instead I believe or it's my opinion more people have a higher regard for Risto as a defenseman than you seem to. Could I be wrong? I most certainly could be.

Personally, with all due respect, I think your assessment of Risto is way less than most objective assessments. JMO.

I put absolutely no stock in preseason in any sport. My impressions are that the talent on this team has improved incrementally over the past few years. Last season I still think they under performed. Probably not a playoff team but I'm not as pessimistic as a lot of guys here.

I'm more concerned with our goaltending than getting a #2 center.

Well obviously Drouin is better than McCabe in the press box.

That was on Hutton.

I agree depending on what he's moved for. I think for what the return would be I'd rather keep him.

I would like them not to look bad. Win or lose .

Healthy McCabe vs Drouin? I'll take McCabe thank you.

We may not agree on all aspects but I do feel your pain.

Seems we're assuming we have ignored better available players to play the worst players in the NHL. Now what GM would do that? Is Botterill literally brain dead? Please , Flagg, a rhetorical question only.

How do we know he has "waited"? Would waiving those players make us better? Replacements? We seem as fans to assume we know more than management and coaches. I highly doubt we really do.

I think saying ignored is maybe unfair. What do we know he could have done that he hasn't?

Fair enough but what could he have done that he hasn't. I guess the real question is how long reasonably speaking does it take to take a last place team to a playoff competitor? Maybe our long standing frustration has made us unrealistic in our expectations. Hey, I'm not getting any younger so I want it turned around as quickly as anyone but what's realistic timing for a new management team to get it turned?

I think most of us here are quite upset by the ROR trade. I know I was and was elated when we got him. Serious question. If we could blot that out of our minds what is your view of Botterill? If I don't take that bad trade into consideration I honestly don't think he's doing that bad. Not great but acceptable. He's building our depth and I have no reason to feel he's missed making any moves he could have improved our team with.