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does the +9 refer to standings points? So the projection is an Eichel-esque WAR from Kesselring to the tune of missing the playoffs by (79+9) by 7 points?

You can’t forget that JJ, as a young player was through with his development and at his ceiling, and that the young players we have still are only just scraping the surface of their development - can’t forget that variable

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Can you imagine how screwed this franchise would be if we had any sort of reasonable expectation? Their apparent handcuffs in fielding a cup winning team are notable - I can admit that but its so, so far neither here nor there. If there’s one thing they sabres have been successful at aside from plausible deniability it’s successfully lowering expectations and the bar for success. the saving grace, our beloved excuse annihilator, is the fact we are only asking for a solitary playoff appearance and even the bad teams do that it’s still right there for them..we haven’t all left yet

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It angers me there’s such a built in excuse for Adams We never spend, weren’t going to this year, regardless And here it is Christmas Day for plausible deniability: their greatest strength Vomit Catches breath Vomit

Hard out there for a pimp, I guess especially if your pimp’s name is Kevyn Adams

Isn’t Vilardi unsigned over here in the peg? Latest projection i saw was 7.5 mil Add in samberg and kupari to vilardi and they’ll be adding another ~ 15 mil so they should get to ~ 3 mil on space remaining. Think we are on track for about 5

I’m just teasing you, relax im not saying you are defending Adams. I definitely do disagree with you that Norris isn’t viewed as the key “addition”, though, along with Kesselring I can only see a whopping level of faith in the lad when I look at the F group and the lack of moves and also the subtraction there we saw

Ya the last time we eclipsed 90 points. Where exactly are you getting lost, here? Presumably the goal is to field a team that’s actually good Isn’t Norris supposed to be our 2C, at LEAST next season? He sure as hell *better* be a key addition dude or we ain’t making any noise It’s not even a matter of opinion - Norris being a key addition is functionally worked into any success of Adams’ plan Your stance is bizarre You get too hung up trying to contradict me for sport and it gets you into trouble

The reason for that is intrinsic to the player We were a bad team when cozens was playing well, I do find it funny everyone forgets that. The idea of replacing cozens is to re-establish what we had there when he was GOOD - that’s what we need at 2C. Norris being marginally better than a poorly performing player doesn’t get us anywhere, and even this is no guarantee as he struggles to get on the ice at all Being like, “Norris represents the avenue for improvement at F we need if everything goes right with him” DOES sound like Adams and it’s why many called that as the “key” addition at F its possible. It’s not likely but it’s possible, and it’s Adams, very Adams It’s pretty safe to say I think a big part of the reason we’ve seen so little at F *is* because KA has a lot of faith in Norris. We’ll see if he can catch and eclipse the poor Cozens, first, then we’ll have to see if we can make some ground in bridging the gap to the 2C play and improvement we actually need.

Ya I counted Kesselring but people didn’t mean trade a better player for a weaker one when they said change. We can be nice and call it an even swap- we still haven’t done anything to improve Norris was a member of the team last year - a good way to make the playoffs would be to pencil in what we got from him and build from there rather than counting on an unknown disclaimer being I know they won’t do that

Almost all fringe, par for the course tweaks on the edges of the line up every roster is mandated to go through every offseason that will have little to zero affect on results. When people say “change”, the connotation is “change that matters”. Changing the strength and conditioning coach doesn’t matter, either the only real impact addition was Kesselring, and he came at the price of a better player. So, one key change element, but zero key improvement elements =very little change. Because again, people aren’t referring to 4th liners and 13th forwards and backup journeymen goaltenders when they say “change” As predicted, Norris will be sold as the offseason addition

The jets spend every year, they’ll get there before the season starts as will most of these teams. We are the ones with the track record to not

I withdraw my Adams complaints in totality

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Ya I mean they are sitting on 7+ right now. Obv if they bring in a F it changes things beyond the Timmins extension but I’ll believe it when I see it The most dense transaction periods are through

I don’t see the cap space as noticeably different this year. On track to have about 5 mil. They are top 10 in cap space now - completely unacceptable for a team 14 years out It’s bottom 10 spending teams that don’t make the playoffs

I think if we get a F it will be Roslovic

Very well said He’s gonna be a good one

I don’t know why and I know almost nothing about him but I feel like he could become a Seabrook like player

Right on - and these issues are only exacerbated by being such a young team prone to mental lapses. I can’t help but chuckle at the, “maybe with maturity they’ll learn to respect their opponent” stuff. I mean - ya - we were the youngest team in hockey *by choice* for 5 years. The Sabres are performing as can only have been expected - - - on a slight tangent - it’s rather (see:very) insane that we have been bad forever and have precisely 1 top 10 pick F in the *entirety* of our system, including on roster.

It’s a good point - It does seem to most mirror the feeling of having Tuch locked up to such a good contract and Tage in his prime firing on all cylinders not to mention Dahlin…the, damn we *really* could have something here but we are wasting it being comfortable with maybes and hopes in the now, in exchange for a future thst never seems to arrive. The D could be really quite good - retaining Byram at that price and even losing him yo UFA is a-oh-kay by me if made the playoffs in the interim: but we spoil it by apparently being content with paying for the D upgrade by weakening our F to the same extent There’s never been a recent roster I looked at and thought had no chance at making the playoffs - in fact I predicted it on a limb a couple times - but I think it’s clear our now very unique situation probably requires, but undoubtedly *deserves*, an approach far more significant than “well maybe, if everything goes right” We could make the playoffs next season and while id be ecstatic I wouldn’t view his approach, should there be nothing more of significance, as a good one even in hindsight: I think the fact we’ve utilized it to awful results so many times previous will proves that a reasonable sentiment we might make it - but we’ll need to get quite lucky