dudacek
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He'll head home to B.C. to rehab with Kane.
The Sabres will expect him to kick Kane into shape, but we will know that failed when Gorges gets a Twitter account.
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Watching the Leafs/Jets, everyone is drooling over Myers (who now has five points in five games).
I'm not seeing a player significantly different than what we saw here. I am seeing a team around him that can support what he does.
I am so desperate to add some talent.
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Great posts Glove.
The whole idea of leadership really resonated with me after watching the press conference.
Kane and Bogosian were drafted to be the cornerstones of the Atlanta Thrasher franchise.
After the move, circumstances - mostly the acquisition of the Chicago guys and Wheeler - a situation evolved where good players and strong personalities effectively prevented them from stepping into leadership roles on and off the ice.
Murray remembered how good they were as juniors and is betting they can step into our on-ice leadership void, be the guys who are counted on to be the key guys when we need to make something happen. Since Drury and Briere, we haven't had guys who wanted to be the ice when the game is on the line. I get the sense Kane and Bogey want to be those guys and Murray is going to grant them that chance at a point in their careers they should be ready for it.
It's a smart move in terms of putting people in a position where they can succeed and I think there is a good chance it could pay off.
I'm like Kane: I can't wait until next year.
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The amazing run of the Leafs is a good reminder about the psychology of the Shart.
You aren't really in the race until the entire organization buys in.
But once it does...
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McKenzie not putting any cold water on the O'Reilly rumours:
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/mckenzie-ryan-o-reilly-could-be-moved-at-the-deadline-1.212229
Important stuff starts at about 4:40.
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Rangers have a lot of hockey hair going on.
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The vodka is going down good tonight.
I blame this board.
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Can we trade our 61 for theirs?
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Tonight does not please Nikita.
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If Neuvirth doesn't melt down in the next week or so, and he wants to, I think he will be signed.
I think that was Murray's intention going in to this season.
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True story: Rangers once had a goalie named Steve Buzinski.
They called him Steve Buzinski, Thepuckgoesinski
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Эй,Мы не говорим по-литовски здесь !!
Ummmm........
.....Fucale?
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Comrade...
Dobryj dyen'
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Oh, I am loving it. They won a Cup, yes. There is that. No one can take that away from them. But the motherfunking sky IS falling, blitches!
This piece was good on the subject: http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/25074140/nhl-trade-chains-a-decade-of-the-bruins-trading-star-players
p.s. Park Meadow, baby! Let's go get eaten by some bears.
Very interesting. That is why I was always opposed to those Myers for prospects and picks deals.
Not that he's Thornton, but you never want to deal talent for potential unless you are forced to.
Bruins fans will say they won the cup, but that had more to do with getting lucky with Bergeron and Lucic, plus signing Chara.
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The Staal trade isn't really a good comparable IMHO because Carolina was the only trading partner -- he told the Rangers he wanted to play with Eric, and he had leverage because he was going to be a UFA, so they pretty much had to get what they could get from Carolina.
O'Reilly has the exact same leverage as Staal did. If he decides he wants to play in TO, he tells the Avs he will not negotiate with anyone but the Leafs. Toronto becomes the only team willing to pay a premium and that premium only has to be a tick more than what the highest non-premium bidder offers. The Avs pretty much have to take it.
You're assuming he has a place-based preference. I don't think he does. I think he has a money-based preference.
I think it would be foolish to think that O'Reilly's agent isn't already looking hard at good fits for him.
Who can pay prime dollar? Who can promise an ideal spot in the line-up? Where does he want to live?
I bet there is a short list in place already and the agent will force Colorado's hand at the draft.
I'm sure Murray has already made Roy well aware of his interest.
And if he is as savvy as I think he is, he is already doing his best to show how Buffalo could tick all the boxes.
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It's not that the Avs won't deal him, it's that nobody else will give up big value for what amounts to a rental. For the Avs to get Staal or better value the extension will need to be in place with the trade partner. Otherwise? Send them a 2nd round pick because that what a rental's worth.
There's no need to move Zemgus to get RoR. None. The Avs have 0 leverage.
Which is why Hodgson, Grigs and the late first might work.
The Avs are unlikely to get a better offer without a commitment and I'm willing to bet O'Reilly is willing to commit to very few teams, if any. He has the Avs over a barrel
Pegula/Murray may roll the dice because:
1) they can afford his extravagant demands.
2) they can offer him the leadership role he craves
3) they will have a good young core he can be part of that includes a McEichel
4) they have a sneaking "suspicion" he is open to signing here.
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SECOND EDIT: Wait. So, ROR *is* signed through next season? Well, I guess the same reasoning applies. Girgs is on his entry-level deal, and is an RFA in 2016.
O'Reilly will be a UFA at the end of next season and is highly unlikely to re-sign in Denver.
And how can you be ambivalent about Zemgus?
Which goes back to my post that no trade will happen if the Avs don't grant permission for a team to negotiate an extension in advance of the trade. If no agreement is reached no trade will be made. Hence, RoR has a no-trade clause. If he doesn't want to be traded somewhere all he has to do is not agree to an extension. The trade will never happen. For all we know this has happened already.
A trade definitely will happen whether permission to negotiate happens or not because the Avs cannot let O'Reilly walk for free.
The question is at what point can they maximize their assets. Roy and Sakic are in a tough spot.
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Girgensons and Pysyk for O'Reilly and Colorado's first ( a lottery pick)?
O'Reilly is an upgrade on Girgs, we take a Killington or Werenski to fill Pysyk's hole in the depth chart.
Avs consider themselves fortunate to get Girgs for a player that is going to walk, and they improve their blueline next year.
Is Girgensons on the table for anybody, in any kind of deal, or does he still embody all our hopes and dreams?
Remember Tim Murray, Zero ###### Given -
If I'm the Avs, I would consider Hodgson as part of an O'Reilly package — not as the main part, but as a sweetener.
Playing with McKinnon or Duchene is exactly the type of situation that would bring out the best in him.
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Ovi has 22 goals in his last 25 games. Unreal
You mean since I traded for him in the hockey pool? :angel:
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It's gonna be tough to convince me on the Myers/Bogosian argument when Bogo just played 32 plus minutes in one of the few sabres wins in recent memory. Good luck to Tyler Myers but I'll take Bogosian all day
He's certainly shown more than the Jets fans give him credit for.
They make him sound like a tougher Gorges, which aint bad, but he's been better than that.
how he plays as a
JetSabre is all i am concerned about...Then I think we are both going to be very happy with this deal.
Is it possible the Jets may not have given Bogosian a chance to show his full potential because of injuries and their depth on defence?
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Benoit... looks...
good...
I have to agree. I blame Bogey.
That ref is blind. Or on the Philly payroll. Geez that was an obvious high stick.
I haven't cared about the refs all season until tonight. Brutal.
Is something wrong with my TV or did birds just fly by?
So that wasn't just me.
This has been a oddly entertaining game.
It was....
I thought I was really drunker than I am
..and LGR was a reason. Didn't even miss Anna (though I hope she's OK.)
Neuvirth sucks in the shootout
Doing the splits every time is not a good strategy. Still, he played well and I'm happy he got the W.
OMG! 32:23 for Bogo! Damn...
Holy ######. Cant blame Teddy for that coaching decision.
Zach was excellent.
The team worked hard, look more like the Nolan team I expected this season.
Glad I PVRed that one, it was worth watching.
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Like the roster prediction thread showed, the most gaping hole on next year's depth chart is first-line right wing.
And the most needed piece is a strong, two-way guy to shield Reinhart and McEichel.
Add in the age and I don't think there is a better fit for the Sabres than O'Reilly.
In my view the price for Kane and O'Reilly would be similar — the both are highly thought of and they both have baggage.
The price on O'Reilly won't get too high unless a team really thinks they can sign him.
And I will pull out the Craig Oster card, Murray's friend and O'Reilly's agent.
Grigorenko and this year's first have to be on the table, but you've got to think the Avs will want a D. I'm not keen on dealing Risto or Zad or Bogey, and I'm not sure if Pysyk or McCabe gets it done. I wonder if they have any interest in Gorges?
Another interesting wildcard piece to consider is next year's first. It's probably a lottery pick. Is Murray willing to bet next year's team will be that much better?
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You both know this got out of hand a long time ago.
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No, but as you said, don't fall I love with the kids.
On ice here, Kane will be an all-situations guy, which should translate to respect in the room.
In The Peg, he wanted to be that guy, but didn't or couldn't, possibly because of the team mix.