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At the risk of being pedantic I don’t consider JJP, Quinn, or Power prospects. They have multiple NHL seasons and either have major extensions or are waiting on a major extension.

This is the dangerous part of the cycle for Adam’s. He’s been around long enough that the “nobody wants to come/be here” is not an inherited problem. When mediocre players start taking way less money to leave during your 5th off-season you’ve gotten too close to entering the death spiral that’s plagued this franchise the last 13 years. (When it comes to Girgs, I think he’s a “fine” bottom 6 player. Like Eichel, and ROR, and Reinhardt, and Mitts, and Skinner we are so starved for a real hockey team that we judge some of these guys against a role they aren’t cut out to play. All of these guys are fine hockey players when asked to ply within their skill set and value. In properly constructed and coached NHL org they’re good enough players.)

Skinner is a major defensive liability on a team that has approximately zero forwards with a 200 foot game. He’s easily top 6F on a real hockey team.

I fully agree. I still think this team is better with Mitts as well.

I’ve been critical of Adams and I still am. But in theory being a tougher team in general should help the onboarding of some of the kids as they come of age. That said this team needs Cozens, Thompson, and Tuch to get their games right.

We carry a ton of free cap, I am OK with over paying on cap for a one year deal. I have little interest in overpaying on term. If we have to overpay cash for 1 and 2 year deals, so be it.

Right. I agree with you here. For me it’s tough to look at the window from now until 26-27 in a vaccuum without accounting for the fact that he was hired in 2020. I am less arguing with you and more arguing with Kevyn Adams/yelling at clouds.

Also I think the number of players across the league with NTC’s is pretty low. Like 25%. Which means 75% of players are eligible to be traded to Buffalo. It is a waaaaay overblown excuse used to “explain” away bad roster management.

Dude. That’s insane. That would put the Sabres at what, 16 years? And the Adams era at like a 6-7 year drought? On its own that would be the 3rd/4th longest active drought in the league. That is a totally unreasonable time frame to “focus” on.

Contextually this makes zero sense. Players don’t go “fine I’ll go to Buffalo, but only if you give my former team a 2nd. That’s the only way!”

Not just not made a decision Adams doesn’t “get the sense”. ”I don’t get the sense” is a phrase you use when you either haven’t talked to somebody directly or haven’t talked To somebody about a specific issue. It isn’t a response to a conversation you actually had.

You aren’t wrong, but without any additional context 11 is a better place to wait hope for somebody dropping out of the top 10 than 14 is.

I am not thrilled with Fanatics, and less thrilled about the 10 year deal. I have a long sleeve or two that are fine/good. But their hats fit funny and look cheap. I have Sabres jerseys from Koho, CCM, and Reebok, and Adidas. The Adidas jerseys blow them all away. The difference between a major athletic outfitter and cheap knock offs is huge these days. Performance wear has come a long way.

I am lurking on an Av's board and their general consensus is that they either wanted it to be cheaper since this walks him right to UFA or they wanted another year or two added on even if slightly more expensive. Given their cap situation most are frustrated with the cap/roster management of the extension but have no issue with Mitt's value.

Good deal for Casey, and also the Av's to an extent. But I assume they would have wanted a little longer deal. If we assume he would have taken a similar deal in Buffalo, he certainly would have been worth extending. (At the risk of beating a dead horse) But we don't know that because Mitts said that nobody in the Sabres org spoke to his reps for an extension.

I just saw this on social media. Connor McDavid's 42 playoff points this year put him in 7th for the entire Sabres season. If he can get 4 points he would tie Skinner for 6th. 5 points would tie him with Cozens for 5th.

But at the same time, floating buy out rumors also drops Skinners trade value. I have been critical of Adams on a lot of issues, but one thing a number of former players have commented on was that GMKA really put forth an effort to get guys into good situations outside of Buffalo. I think it is in Skinners and Buffalo's best interest to keep the buyout speculation quite.

Sorry, I was talking about Moose River and using the Fulton Chain as region.

Big fan of the Fulton Chain. Parts of it are some of the last untouched places in the north east.

What did he do to get this promotion? It all starts with WTF made him qualified to actually coach the Sabres a decade ago when he first joined the org?

Re: Yuengling, I spoke to somebody in the know the other day and they said that the cost to sponsor the Bills/Sabres has gone up quite a bit and Labatt can't afford/won't pay it. They are also losing placements in the Ralph. I was just talking about this the other day. There is some speculation that eventually Seagrams (malted beverages) could get sold off in the future and then all things Labatt would just move to Rochester.

Sorry, I was just getting out of a late night shift. My bad.

You might be right. I read/posted after getting out of a late night at work.

Jerry Forton has known Terry Pegula since well before he owned the Sabres. He is a family friend and has been for decades. Terry doesn’t hold Jerry back. He’s hired to be lock step. The dude was hired to be a yes man from day 1. A lot to pick apart here, but your take on Jerry Forton is so far off the mark from any inside information (EEE coming off the books this year?) there clearly isn’t any actual connection to the Pegulas.

Solid and fair take and seems probable. That said, I think it’s best for the org long term that Lindy be the man at the top and not Adams. I am just not sold on the guy. I have a lot more questions about the vision for this team now than I did 18 months ago. I don’t get it. I am rooting for the Sabres success sooner rather than later. I think a 96 point season, first round loss, and moving Adams to POHO has the potential to be terrible long term.