ska-T Palmtown
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5 minutes ago, Thorner said:
A win could move us within 9 of a playoff spot
You jest, but until they are mathematically eliminated - there are 3 or 4 brain cells waaaaay in the back whispering "it could happen ..."
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@mjd1001 It is overly simplistic, but on NHL.com, he ranks amongst "centers"
- 62nd in goals (his 16 EV goals is actually only one behind McJesus)
- 55th in points
- 60th in P/PG
He is a borderline 2/3 C. The caveat being that many of the 2Cs probably get decidedly more powerplay time than McL - but who knows, he might be the second coming of Cozens on the powerplay?
I would wager he is above average at the defensive aspects of the game (his +14 is 23rd), so that possibly slides him up into "solid NHL 2C" ... and given that half the league does not make the playoffs, @Thorner's point of "excellent" 3C on playoff team seems to hold water.
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16 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
This is why Cozens isn't a good hockey player:
My absolute favorite part, and why I am so glad he will be back next year is Zucker standing on the bench with both arms raised looking happy AF. That man cares about the game and cares about his 'mates. He is always genuinely happy when the puck is the back of the opposing team's net. Good on him.
7 hours ago, Doohickie said:Definitely gave him an opportunity and he's quickly growing into it. I really think when the Sabres are competitive again, he might not be a "core piece" as such but will be a significant contributor. If his snipe continues to improve he might actually be.... good?
I think Krebs would be solid 3rd/4th line addition to many of the playoff teams out there. He is the epitome (ok, maybe a little hyperbole) of the "effort guy" that inevitably ends up making some sort of key play for a real contender each year. He has been misused and surrounded by borderline garbage for much of his time in blue and gold. This is the reason we are generally left to lament how players not named Cozens go on to do better after the Sabres. They are decent players being played too high by Buffalo, but excel (mostly) when placed at that appropriate level with a competent hockey organization.
@Thorner - I had a quote, but there was so much back and forth on it, I just decided to start "fresh". RE: the forward group. My perspective is that the Sabres score enough goals ... they are 7th overall in GF (give or take a game or two in hand, etc). So no, I don't think they need more goal-scoring forwards. But seeing as how they have given up the 5th most GA - they need to improve team defense. And since there are THREE forwards and only TWO defensemen, my simpleton math leads me to believe that 60% of the players that should be playing "defense" are forwards. So, my opinion is that they need to address the forward group with more players like McLeod. Fast, responsible, and hungry. The forward group, overall, is good at scoring goals and not really very good at playing hockey.
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Just now, LGR4GM said:
I don't think his injury prone. I'd like to give him about 15 games next year to prove himself, but it has to been on the table to move off him if needed.
I was just quoting you because you were the last post in that odd exchange that I saw. I was mostly agreeing with you, but did not state it. But I said it with my mind 😉
Yeah, JQ needs to pull his head out of his arse, for sure. I wish the Sabres had the roster construction that does not force them to make those choices with a 24-yr old. Oh well.
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On 3/27/2025 at 6:25 PM, LGR4GM said:
That's true. My thought is that Buffalo is cursed.
I might be in the minority, but I don't see how this amounts to "injury prone":
Most of the games Quinn missed this year are due to being a healthy scratch. He had TWO freak injuries in one year ... hardly injury prone. The achilles injury sucks, but is not that uncommon - and most people would break their leg if they went into the boards the way he did.
When you add this to the (maybe gone?) falsehood about "he hasn't been the same since the injury" stuff (0.49 pts/game in 22-23 and 0.7 in 23-24), it seems like maybe we are all telling ourselves little white lies about JQ to make it easier when the Sabres cast him aside at the age of <checks notes>: 24, because of one bad year.
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On 3/23/2025 at 7:50 AM, shrader said:
You went from “if one guy is the team” to a “sum of all the parts” argument.
But anyway, when someone says they’ll like to see him without the other good players, it’s not literal. It’s more rhetorical than anything. Obviously you’re not putting any player in a vacuum. He’s damn good, but every player gets inflated a bit with that supporting cast. Having the best forward and the best defenseman. That’s a very nice place to be.
Not Casey, lol.
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I didn't realize the auctions for the jerseys would be over so soon 😞 Usually the Sabres stuff is up for a few days after the event. Weak sauce.
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Did a rat skate this morning, great skate - way over my skill level - and a bunch of the guys went out for breakfast after. I think there were 12 of us at the table THREE of us (in Chicago) were Sabres fans. The fan base is there ... give us something to cheer for!!!!!
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1 hour ago, JohnC said:
What's both sad and laughable at the same time is that expansion teams become competitive and meaningful before the Sabres are able to do so. While the Sabres remain stuck in the muck of mediocrity and irrelevance for a generation, new teams quickly become relevant. Vegas is a good example of that. That's pathetic and stupid!
It's more likely to be the case if they don't hire anyone from the Sabre organization. They should use Bufalo as the model organization as to what not to do.
Assuring prospective new owner of a quick path to that sweet sweet playoff revenue stream is part of the business model of the NHL. "You too can walk all over the Sabres on your way to the Stanley Cup Playoffs!"
8 minutes ago, Pimlach said:I really hate all of this expansion. It just dawned on me that the NHL is like the NBA. The regular season is meaningless and there are not enough really good players to go around anymore.
@Pimlach - exactly. The stars of teams don't go anywhere and the 2nd and 3rd line talent gets spread further and further out - except a few really good teams that manage to hang on to them long enough to get a cup. It gives FAs more teams to choose from, and as noted - the recent expansion teams seem to be run better than Buffalo 😞
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20 hours ago, xzy89c1 said:
teams like Toronto, NY, Boston etc... can charge 5x what sabres do and they sell out the suites for a much higher multiple than that. Sabres do not sell out the suites today. Sabres are only team in NHL that offer the opposing teams a free suite to use. Only team.
The report i referenced was only the tickets and suites not the purchases during the game. Prices for concessions are far higher in other buildings.
The losses are an all in number. Do not doubt at all they lost that much. 30 million a year when your expenses are similar to the high revenue teams, but your revenue is far below is a realistic number. Would only be worse since COVID and the attendance being so low.
without the Canadian fans, sabres lose 30% of gate revenue. Without Canada Buffalo is Hartford. Without the insurance companies
I don't believe the $30M number, because Forbes is a reputable source and they are including all sources of revenue, tickets, merch, concessions, and league revenue sharing. Terry is a successful billionaire business owner, surely he is not stupid enough to forget to include all revenue streams when deciding whether or not he as a net profit or loss.
Add to that, the asset has appreciated by close to $1B over 14 years. If he thinks he has "lost money" on the Sabres, he is either very dumb, needs to fire his accountant, or both.
This line of thinking is hilarious.
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14 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
That's equivalent to Pegs losing roughly 30 million every year for a decade. Considering Buffalo didn't have issues selling out especially in 2015-2018, seems questionable with revenue sharing, ticket sales, and TV deals. Considering the guy built and maintains a 100 million dollar yacht... idk seems flimsy.
7 minutes ago, Pimlach said:Big cites make over 5X more? Even if you count an average of 7 home playoff games this sounds wrong.
No idea how stadium upkeep, etc is figured into this number - but sure does not seem like he is losing an average of $30M per year.
More info from Forbes. Looks like the only person you need to "know" is Google:
https://www.forbes.com/teams/buffalo-sabres/Operating income by year, 2024 being on the left:
From rough math, since 2015 he would be ~+5M. (in the article you can hover and get numbers for each year.
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1 hour ago, dudacek said:
Most preseason lineups had Krebs in the press box.
I believe that happened the first game of the season and not once since. He’s 4th on the team in games played.
A part of that is the poor play of others, but we shouldn’t overlook the strides he’s made.
He’s become an above .500 faceoff man. He is among the team leaders in hits and cut down his giveaways to the point of being one of the better players in that area as well.
His analytics are OK in tough zone starts, he’s shown some versatility in terms of where he can play, he’s going to finish with 20+ points, and he’s generally going to give you energy and effort.
Its not what we wanted him to be when we acquired him, but he is one of the few young players who has improved over last year. Small victories For sure, but as a 4th liner, he’s been fine.
Krebs would be the poster child for "former Sabre player goes to a team where he is used correctly and flourishes"
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2 hours ago, JohnC said:
I didn't find the fights entertaining. I thought it was idiotic and moronic. However, I did find the play between these teams compelling. That was great hockey!
I wish there was an "Although I don't agree, I see your point" emoji reaction 🙂
And I should say, the entertainment went down with each "fight". Right off the opening faceoff? Ohhhh! Drama! The others? It felt ... staged?
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21 minutes ago, JohnC said:
I would rather add another rugged player or two than a designated fighter as a responder who isn't much of a contributor. And it should be noted that many fights, if not most, are pre-arranged between the combatants before they square off. Every time I state my position on this assaultive behavior on ice I get overwhelmed with thumbs down, which makes my positioned hardened even more. I find it so freaking stupid and repugnant.
In the salary cap era, most teams can't afford to have a designated goon.
I am a bit torn on fighting. I can see why something like what Greenway did is needed. Even if Z was getting a penalty - he took liberties and that needs to be fixed. I think it is a fine line because the other way to address crap like that is to overly involve the refs in their subjective penalty calling. As a Sabres fan, I am not sure I want the refs having even MORE influence on the game.
I think the USA-Canada fights, while somewhat entertaining, were also kinda dumb from the perspective of having a hockey game.
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1 hour ago, inkman said:
Is this bad? 🤣
Let it not be lost that The Athletic ranked them LOWER than the fans (by 0.02 - which is within "rounding error", but STILL!)
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5 hours ago, CallawaySabres said:
Nashville and Buffalo will go down to the wire on 3rd overall pick, so at least there is that race.
Until the Sabres lose the lottery and slide down the "maximum" two spots ... and pick 5th.
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I was looking through the trash heap of old threads and could not find the one that either @GASabresIUFAN or maybe @LGR4GM was lamenting the potential disaster that might be the Sabres 2025 cap situation. I was just wondering what the trades and recent signings have done to that situation?
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2 hours ago, Thorner said:
Was corrected on twitter about this, it probably IS easier / more likely we add a top 6 RW this summer than a c, as they are harder to come by. We know Thompson works at C so the bare minimum side of things could easily read:
Benson - Thompson - ???
Peterka - Norris - Tuch
Zucker - McLeod - Kulich
Greenway - ??? - Malenstyn/Quinn
To my eye it’s a Marner sized hole (we won’t get Marner). But for me same logic applies: whether it’s top 6 C or W the need is there
we have the means
we have the drought
We are spending too much for too little production in other areas to go get Marner 😞
It is kind of odd, now with Cozens gone, many of our good(ish) forwards seem like good deals. I don't think any of our forwards could be classified as a significant overpay.
But the overspending on what we are currently getting at D? Oy.
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Curses! I have Max to watch cool shows ... and thus also have access to this game 😞 I am not strong enough to stay away on my own.
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Lord knows I don't have it in me ... but after 1 pm Eastern on a game day without a thread ... losing 6 in a row will do that to you, I guess.
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nifty little move by Rosen.
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17 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:
Dilfer wasn't borderline bad. He was bad. Even by 1990s standards. If he hadn't had the late '90s Buccaneers defenses propping him up, he might not even be in the league long enough to make it to Baltimore for his one Super Bowl season, even as a top-10 draft pick.
He made one career Pro Bowl, basically as an alternate to an alternate. In the NFC he finished behind Young, Brad Johnson, Favre, Chandler, Kramer, Mitchell, and Aikman in yards and completion %.
He did have several short TD passes that season to help him finish with 21 TDs, which was good for 6th in the League, but way off the pace of the leaders -- and 2 or fewer ahead of Brad Johnson, Chandler, Young, Mitchell, and Aikman. And this was far and away his best season.
Total scrub QB with a Super Bowl ring.
Yeah, all of that was what brought up my original question ... any total scrub goalies with their name on the cup. I don't think any of them approach being Dilfer-esque.
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1 hour ago, SwampD said:
What about Corey Crawford?
I think this is such a tough exercise because Trent Dilfer was borderline BAD ... to reiterate, he threw more INTs than TDs in his career ...
Corey Crawford - These numbers are very respectable, but his teams were such powerhouses, it is hard to tell:
Those numbers are essential over 10 years.
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1 hour ago, Believer said:
Damn. Will miss another game tonight. Going to the Circus!
Will follow on Yahoo.
Keep the winning streak alive, boys. Make it three in a row.
Go Sabres!
There is a joke in there about the typical Sabres game this year belonging in a circus ....
Sabres Trade Dylan Cozens/Dennis Gilbert and 2026 2nd Round Pick to Ottawa for Josh Norris and Bernard Docker
in The Aud Club
Posted · Edited by ska-T Palmtown
(Obligatory response about how "defense" is a team game and it usually seems like the coaches forgot to tell the forwards that. The general concept amongst GOOD defensive teams is to out-number the offensive team on the puck. O sends 2 fwds into the corner - you send your strong side D, C and strong side winger. GET. THE. PUCK. The Sabres are constantly outnumbered on the puck in their own zone. It is infuriating.)
**Disclaimer: The above post in no way constitutes approval of the sometimes (often?) clueless play of defensemen not named Dahlin; rather it is intended to serve as an indictment of how the Sabres, as a team, "play" defense.