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It's impossible for me to believe that the concept of tanking for next year was not discussed ad nauseum during the GM hiring, was one of the biggest questions, and that PLF didn't know Murray's entire viewpoint of the concept before he hired him.
Haven't we known for at least a year?!? There is no way TN did not know we are in rebuilding mode when he was hired.
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It certainly will be interesting to see whether and how Dom and TN interact. Didn't Dom say something along the lines that it would best that he never play for TN again (or words to that effect)? Indeed, he never did play for him again.
We all have heard rumors, but I wish I knew what really happened re Dom, TN, and Muckler (as well as what happened after just two years with the Islanders).
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So far, I am impressed. I also think that he seems to have "lightened up" as you say. It does seem to correspond with some other interesting events down at the FNC.
Time will tell whether today was a good day. Based on what I have seen so far (notwithstanding my hope that he could have gotten more in some of these deals), I really like Tim Murray thus far. The guy seems to be a straight shooter. He is a hockey guy through and through. It seems as though he was groomed for this day and the GM position his whole life.
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Very true -- especially the part about Brian Burke.I agree on "meh" in general, but Fasching might be a little better than you're giving him credit for. I'd consider him to be an upper echelon prospect. Again, I don't care where he was drafted, I care what he's developed into so far.
Brian Burke and this board are the only people ever to say that. As above, Darcy made good, even great, trades. His faults are not figuring out that a hockey team can't have seven left wings and no centers, not understanding how the components of a team fit together (to an extent), and not figuring out how to stand up to ownership when a good team is in place.
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Darcy's trade of Vanek to the Islanders was a great trade. You have to give credit where credit is due. Same thing with his trade of Pominville.I was listening to the guys on WGR550 and they are jumping up and down about how great the Sabres and Tim Murray did at the trade deadline. These are the same guys who were ripping Darcy Regier apart for his actions. Regier's trades aren't looking so bad now. Look what he got for Vanek for example. Regier had flaws, but he did acquire a lot of future assets for which he should receive some credit.
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Exactly. My thoughts as well.Plus there's the hidden bonus that by trading Moulson to MIN, we choose a landing spot for him that will probably not entertain much talks of re-signing him due to their stated interest in Vanek as a UFA.
He does seem like a good guy. I really hope we make him an offer and are able to sign him on July 1.Would love to take a run at re-signing MattyMo this summer. He isn't that old (only 30) and he does the one thing that we need most: score goals. Seems like a genuinely good guy too. Plus, we'll have to spend some serious cash just to get to the cap.
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That is my hope. There is no secret that the Wild want Vanek and Vanek wants the Wild. That leaves us in no worse position than any other team in trying to sign Moulson. As I mentioned earlier, he grew up on the other side of the border, his parents can watch him play, he seemed to genuinely enjoy playing in Buffalo. He also grew up a Bills fan. I hope we try to sign him on July 1.You would still think that the Wild will try to sign Vanek in the off season before they try to sign Moulson (at least that is probably what the average fan will think.) So perhaps Moulson will be available for the Sabres to bring back in the off season.
Of course perhaps the Wild are happy with what they see from Moulson in the remaining games and never care that Vanek would like to play for them.
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I agree with that. He gets bashed a lot, but way more often than not, he did well in trades that he made.Darcy Regier made some pretty freaking good trades, including the one that led to this one. His faults lie elsewhere.
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I think I read a second and a prospect on twitter. Wow.Let's all see what vanek gets compared to moulson to see if we got fair market value
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I hope that, before we traded him, we told him to wait for an offer from us on July 1. Same thing with Ott. Ott likes Buffalo. Moulson grew up on the other side of the border as a Bills fan. I would hope that we would have a chance to sign both. Who knows, maybe even Miller depending on how things work out.Lame. We keep Erhoff and Stafford but trade Moulson, a guy that could have had a future here.
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At least . . . .Lets hope its a first pick
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Now that I have had a chance to look up Torrey Mitchell, I absolutely have to agree with you. Those picks better be good ones.BETTER be some good picks. Torrey Mitchell is absolutely terrible. ###### it. Do we really need another ###### John Scott?
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I always wanted Torrey Mitchell. Actually, I am going to have to look him up now, because I do not know who he is.
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This makes it better than our two picks likely to be at the top of the second around.Picks are the 2014 and 2015 2nd rounders we got from LA in Regehr deal.
As part of the Hudson Fasching deal, the Sabres give back to the Kings the 2014 & '15 picks that came to Buffalo in the Robyn Regehr trade.
We gave up a lot, but I have to defer to Murray in the end. I presume that he has a conviction about Fasching. On paper (and based on what I have read about him), he sounds like he has a lot of upside and could end up being great for the kind of team we are building.
As an aside, especially because of what we gave up, I really hope that we do not trade Myers.
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Black is on the business side of things. He has said time and time again that he reports to Pegula and PLF reported to Pegula - PLF did not report to Black. If what you, others, and guys at the news have suggested were true, I seriously doubt that either Tim Murray or Craig Patrick would still be with the team. Regarding Battista, as I posted in response to another, he essentially ran an errand for Tim Murray by running down to tell Ted Nolan to take Miller/Ott off the ice because of the trade. There is no reason to elevate that into something else as others have done. The fact that Battista was running an errand for Tim Murray demonstrates the opposite.There are rumblings that Battista and Black's involvement in hockey related decisions directly lead to PLF quitting.
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I think that the guy just got a job in which he supports and reports to the hockey people. Nothing more than that. The fact that he was the guy to run down to tell Ted Nolan to get Miller and Ott off the ice was just a function of who was around to do it because Murray was busy doing his job. It could have been you or me if we had been standing around. The fact that guys at the News elevated what was something an errand boy does into something else is humorous and sadly typical.What Battista was doing could be at the heart of why LaFontaine left. Could. That's the importance of these little clues. Why did Pegula hire him in the first place? Was he lurking around LaFontaine as Pegula's eyes and ears? (He did accompany LaFontaine on a trip to interview GMs.) Running around notifying Nolan, telling Vinz he was playing and claiming he "signed" him, potentially exaggerating his title in an email, they're just some wafts of smoke. We're all trying to piece things together.
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Mole hill meet mountain. It is funny how he cannot resist the snark. He took what I presume was intended as an attempt at humor (and interpreted as such by everyone in the world -- outside of the Buffalo News building).Takes the Vinz tweet and turns it into an act of insurrection. <_<. Puh-leeze. Gleason is more interested into stoking flames than reporting news.
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I have little understanding as to what Battista does. In the end, it does not make any difference. Tim Murray is the GM and is in charge -- not Battista.
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One thing is for sure. Tim Murray knows the player well. He must think that he is worth bringing in.
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WTF is it with Bucky Gleason? He ran one GM out of town and he's looking for another trophy?
Bucky has had a vendetta against the Sabres for so long (Harrington also has had an ax to grind). Neither one of these guys comes anywhere close to the standard that Jim Kelley set.
It is clear that Bucky has "taken sides" - he did so a long time ago.
Regarding PLF, one thing that sticks out to me is that the Islanders have erased all mention of one of their greatest players. Whether PLF was an unpaid assistant and only in that role for 40 days, one wonders what a guy could have done to cause an organization to go out of their way to to act as though the guy never existed.
On the other hand, the Pegulas have a reputation for being wonderful people to work for. Ask people such as Lindy Ruff or Steve Ott (people no longer with the team) what they think of the Pegulas. The Pegulas were the ones that went out of their way and had the idea to hire PLF. You do not go and hire someone to be an executive with the team (someone who was not on anyone's radar other than the Pegulas) with the desire to screw the guy over.
Nevertheless, the guys from the News always have the knee jerk reaction to "choose sides" against the Sabres and its ownership -- because it fits the narrative that they have been pushing for so long.
The Pegulas even kept Darcy around when guys like Sully (and the rest) were clamoring for them to fire Darcy on day one. Given their track record of showing loyalty to people such as Darcy (when they could have fired him as their first move to garner PR points with the News and others), one wonders what could have happened to cause this to end so quickly (as with the Islanders). Perhaps, Paul Hamilton's comments about the public and private personas are correct.
Given the above, I am going to give the benefit of any doubt to the people who have put their money where their mouths are both in terms of the hockey team and the community.
On the other hand, we know that guys like Bucky and Harrington and Sully are not going to give them the benefit of the doubt because it simply does not fit their narrative.
Just my two cents.
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FWIW - I was impressed with the fact that Drew Stafford stood in front of a puck to prevent an empty net goal in the dying moments of the game last night.
I realize a lot of people do not like him on this board, but what he did at the end of the game shows that the guy cares.
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Especially when you turn 50 . . . .Never underestimate a well placed colon.
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Funny, wasn't Darcy criticized for that approach way back when.I think Nolan will let the rest of the season play out and see how his relationship with Murray develops before making a decision.
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Still interesting.It came from here:
Shake up in the office PAT LaFONTAINE RESIGNS
in The Aud Club
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I do not know what was in your original post (before any deletions), but I do agree with your general estimation re Harrington.
It is my impression that, as time has gone by, more and more people are on to Harrington, Bucky, and Sully.