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59 minutes ago, steveoath said:
I'm really looking the sound of Trey Augustine from the NTDP. Seems cut from similar cloth to Levi.
https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/player/kenneth-trey-augustine-39822
thought you might find this interesting
QuoteNHL 2023 MOCK DRAFT
Projection round 3 Overall 86
Buffalo Sabres
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11 minutes ago, dudacek said:
Athletic's Montreal writer does a nice dive into the process of finding goalies this morning.
https://theathletic.com/4510285/2023/05/11/montreal-canadiens-goalie-of-the-future/
He was looking at the period of 2011 to 2017 because goalies picked after 2017 are, by and large stil developing.
The Sabres took 5 goalies in those 7 drafts, pretty much in line with what the thread recommends.
Two teams took 8, one took 2. 16 - half the league - took 3 or 4.
The only conclusion I can gather from the article is that there's no magic formula for finding them, it usually takes years to determine whether you did, and when they finally arrive, it's more often than not on another team.
got to keep the pipeline full till you find them, but when you do the path is paved with gold.
The question is outside of Leinonen we pretty much know what we have in the system
Just for interest Here are the G's we drafted since 2000.The Bolded are the ones who actually played NHL games
5 straight years we drafted Gs from 2002 to 2007 with only one recognizeable name. Not being able retain Ullmark is the biggest issue for the Sabres today. Since 2011 We seemed to be drafting Gs who do make it to the NHL.
Yr. Rd. Name
2000 4 Ghyslain Rousseau Baie-Comeau Drakkar [QMJHL]2002 4 Marty Magers Omaha Lancers [USHL]
2003 8 Jeff Weber Plymouth Whalers [OHL]
2004 5 Michal Valent Martin Jr. (Slovakia)
2005 6 Adam Dennis London Knights [OHL]
2006 2 Jhonas Enroth Sodertalje SK [SEL]
2007 5 Bradley Eidsness Okotoks Oilers [AJHL]
2009 6 Connor Knapp Miami University (Ohio) [CCHA]
2011 6 Nathan Lieuwen Kootenay Ice [WHL] (played in Rochester but only played in 7 games for Buffalo
2012 6 Linus Ullmark MoDo Jr. [Swe-Jr]
2013 5 Cal Petersen Waterloo Black Hawks [USHL]
2014 3 Jonas Johansson Brynas (Sweden Jrs.)
2017 2 Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen HPK [Finland-Jr]
2019 3 Erik Portillo Frolunda [Sweden Jrs.]
2022 2 Topias Leinonen Jyp (Finland Jr.)
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10 hours ago, Curt said:
UPL, Levi, and Leinonen. UPL just turned 24 in March. He is definitely still a young developing goalie. Levi and Leinonen are definitely too.
I still believe what we see is what we get with UPL.. He is not going to get much, if any better, but that's my opinion based on seeing him being incosistent year after year.
Levi is entrenched as the future, but behind him and the near future there is nothing to get excited about... Leinonen is a wildcard but really hasn't proven he'll be ready for the NHL anytime soon, and after that we got nothing.
The way I feel is I would like to see a few drafted G's placed throughout the Sabres system and let the cream rise to the top.
8 hours ago, GoPuckYourself said:I looked into some of these guys but the G position is just weird, some of these guys with low save % will turn out to be stars and some of the potential stars will be busts, has to be the hardest position to guage.
I agree which is why I think you want to have multiple young drafted G's in the system as I mentioned in my reply to Curt
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1 hour ago, dudacek said:
UPL at 24, Levi at 21 and Leinonen at 19 is probably a better "young goalie" situation than well over half the league, but we don't always do context well around here.
UPL could be a short timer if consistency doesn't ramp up majorily
Leinonen really hasn't done much to get excited about but there is still time hereIt may be better than other teams but if UPL fizzles out and Leinonen doesn't take the next couple of steps will wish we had another your net minder int he system
1 hour ago, Curt said:Should draft a goalie almost every year.
Sabres have 3 young goalies in the development system. That’s not nothing, but yeah, they could probably add one in the mid-late rounds as a far away development project.
I don't view UPL or Cromrie as in development, the rest are barely NHL worthy, so really we only have one young net minder in Leinonen
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Our Cupbaord is pretty bare now that Levi is here.... nobody to get excited about yet with any of the G's in the system.
Topias Leinonen - Hasn't done much to get exicited about but still developingErik PortilloMichael Houser - is what he is, emergency call up but mostly a minor leaguer
Malcolm Subban - similiar to Houser in regards to expectations
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen - inconsistency is what drives us all nuts. He'll be here, for how long is the question
Eric Comrie - Similiar to UPL
That list is a bit depressing
there are 2 decent G's in the NHL Draft that all I know about is from the blogs/scouting reports/stat sheets
Anybody have some input regarding our possible choices
I just copied and pasted some basic info, can't say I agree or disagree with anything said here, just for referencehttps://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/2023-nhl-draft-10-goaltenders-you-need-to-know
QuoteMichael Hrabal, Omaha (USHL)
Sometimes, you have to look beyond the stats. Hrabal’s numbers with the USHL’s Omaha Lancers are nothing special, but scouts love his raw potential. He’s 6-foot-6, faces a significant number of shots a night, tracks the puck well, has good athleticism and covers the net down low well. One of the biggest knocks, style-wise, is how he can be caught going down too early often, but he’s an imposing figure who is tough to beat on a given night.
Carson Bjarnason, Brandon (WHL)
It’s sometimes tough to judge CHL goaltenders because the stats can look downright awful – and having Connor Bedard and Zach Benson in the same division, among others, doesn’t help. But Bjarnason has carried the load for a lousy Wheat Kings team, making him the top-ranked North American goaltender by NHL Central Scouting. Bjarnason has what teams are looking for: good size, quick reflexes and the ability to not get rattled after a goal. Some scouts think he has true No. 1 potential.
Adam Gajan, Green Bay (USHL)
Scouts I talked to at the World Junior Championship fell in love with Gajan, who many believed to be a diamond in the rough. Gajan went undrafted out of the Slovak league last year but made some noise in the NAHL and USHL before joining Slovakia as the team’s third goalie to begin. Before too long, he was the No. 1, giving fits to teams like Canada and USA. Gajan doesn’t have a major sample size, which probably knocks him down a bit, but he has great size, excellent athleticism and seems to only get better with more viewings.
Trey Augustine, USNTDP
USNTDP goaltenders typically get lost in the shuffle with the amount of high-quality talent at other positions. But Augustine was the lone current player from the program to represent USA at the World Junior Championship. He snagged the starter’s role as the youngest No. 1 in the tournament and played quite well, leading USA to bronze. While he isn’t big, Augustine relies on his individual movements in the crease to make up for it. They’re swift and focused, and he always has his eyes fixated on the puck. In my opinion, the Michigan State University commit has a bright future and is one of the goalie prospects with the highest ceilings.
Jacob Fowler, Youngstown (USHL)
It’s been a few good months for Fowler, who led USA to gold at the World Junior A Challenge and has been named USHL goaltender of the week three times. The 6-foot-2 goaltender has been excellent with Youngstown, leading the league with a .914 save percentage and four shutouts. Fowler tracks the puck well and has good athleticism and when he gets scored on, it’s rarely because he’s out of position. He plays like a much bigger goalie, with strong shoulders and fluent movements that allow him to quickly cover high shots.
Scott Ratzlaff, Seattle (WHL)
Ratzlaff seems to play his best hockey when everyone’s watching. Ratzlaff made 24 saves on 25 shots against Connor Bedard and Co. at the CHL Top Prospects Game and posted a 4-0-0 record with two shutouts and an incredible .976 save percentage en route to gold at the 2022 Hlinka Gretzky Cup with Canada. Scouts notice big-game performances like that, even if he didn’t have the toughest competition at the Hlinka. In league play, Ratzlaff has put up great numbers with Seattle, so it’s not like he needs to be carried. He isn’t a big goaltender, but he has excellent rebound control, does a good job of sifting through traffic and is quite athletic, too.
Tomas Suchanek, Tri-City (WHL)
After getting passed over twice before, it’s unlikely Suchanek gets passed over again. Since the 2022 draft, he played for Buffalo’s prospect team, saved Czechia’s summer World Junior Championship tournament and gave them a huge win over USA, and then won top goaltender at the 2023 edition after leading his country to silver. Add in a decent run with Tri-City and his CV looks impressive at 19. It’s not uncommon for goaltenders to go as an overager, especially when COVID-19 impacted key parts of a player’s development time. There’s some decent potential here.
Adam Dybal, Karlovy Vary (Czechia, U-20)
Dybal has put up some ridiculous numbers in the Czech U-20 league, recording six shutouts and a .941 save percentage in 33 games. He is the fourth-ranked European goaltender by NHL Central Scouting. Dybal’s dominance has allowed him to rise up the ranks, and he even got into a second-tier Czech league game and some U-18 national team action. It’ll be interesting to see how he reacts to tougher competition at other levels, and he’s on the smaller size at six-foot. But, clearly, the talent is there.
Thomas Milic, Seattle (WHL)
It’s not easy sharing the net with Ratzlaff, but Milic has done enough head-turning already this season. The Canadian World Junior Championship star has a 20-3-1 record in WHL and WJC play this season and has a 5-0 record in starts since returning to the Thunderbirds. The biggest knock against Milic is his six-foot frame, but he’s quick, athletic and never gives up on a scoring chance. There’s enough raw talent to mold him into something tangible at the next level.
Alexander Hellnemo, Skeleftea (SHL)
Hellnemo is another re-entry and one with some pro experience already. The top-ranked European goalie on NHL Central Scouting wasn’t viewed highly on many public charts, but he has a solid 6-foot-2 frame and is quite athletic, to boot. He has had some impressive outings in the SHL and has been one of the better goalies in the Swedish U-20 league. I’m not sure how many NHL teams share the same opinions as Central Scouting about his play, but it’ll be interesting to see if his improved play as a Draft+1 prospect makes a big difference.
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13 minutes ago, bunomatic said:
Lucky #13
I turned 13 years old on Friday the 13th during a full moon (so cool). Wore 13 while playing little league Allstars where we went to state and had multiple HRs during the tournament
BIG fan of lucky 13 so hopefully it wil be the same for the Sabres-
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I'd rather open up slots for the up and coming players before signing Kane
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I think we need more grinding wheels myself. Lots of power and tourque to go with that grit.
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3 hours ago, Curt said:
Power is on his ELC (rookie contract) for just one more season. After next season, he will be an RFA and need a new contract. So it’s either this offseason or next offseason that he will sign a new contract. Either way he makes the same amount next season. Contract extensions don’t kick in until the original contract finishes up, even if they are signed early.
Would he not get a fat signing bonus or is that just NFL contracts ???
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I have to imagine that being from Russia that his height and weight stats are trailing data
I feel when he arrives here and gets put on Rochesters lineup his height and weight will then be updated.-
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15 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
For who? Too late for Bedard, who's next?
At this point your looking at 2024... You can grab a few picks possibly in 2023 and maybe package some moves and get a rebuild started. But with salary caps tight for the league getting value for some of your players is going to take more than a couple of months
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7 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:
Is $6.6 realistic for Power? I'd guess he would not sign for less than $8 million for that much term....but what do I know....
He is still a RFA when his rookie contract is up so the cost is controlled some. Its up to Power to sign a contract extension early for a significant pay raise, or wait a couple of years till the rookie deal expires and get a moderately better RFA contract deal then, So its take significantly more money for immediate future or push it out and wait for a bigger payday
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does SS stand for super *****
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14 minutes ago, kas23 said:
Given he’s never played hockey at the professional level, I didn’t like how KA said Levi “earned” the right to those starts at the end of the season. Maybe I’m just taking issue with the word “earned”, but I could see UPL or Comrie having an issue with this. He should’ve just said “given his skill, we thought he gave our best chance for winning.”
UPL and Cromrie did the opposite of earned when you review the season
Levi showed more in 7 starts than UPL and Cromrie did over their careers to date IMO-
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Do not change a thing. Keep the developing and the great drafting. Find the under the radar FA types. Fully expect playoffs if we do not make a single move, but I do feel we will make a move or 2 this offseason.
Patience is paying off and I expect it to pay fat dividends. Look at Mittlestadt... The team gave him lots of time and now nobody wants to move him as he has demonstrated he is finding his niche... We have seen the same story with Tage..
G is a curious situation. I fully believe Levi is an annomaly... He will excel in pressure and I think he can handle at least half the load... The question is wether we do bring in a vet or roll with what we have.
I am perfectly ok with the franchise direction and see a very bright future
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On 7/15/2022 at 6:02 AM, ddaryl said:
1.) Goaltending will be marginally better this year. Comrie proves he may be a keeper
2.) Power, Dahlin Samuelson (Sabres D core) prove to be all that and get accolades from the press
3.) Sabres will be in the hunt for a playoff spot come March, it will be close but they miss by a few points
4.) Tage will do well again this year 35 G 40 A, but does not surpass 40 G1.) Not looking good, but jury is still out
2.) homerun
3.) 2 lousy point miss
4.) Tage surpassed expectation
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3 hours ago, Weave said:
Noone said over pay. Noone wants to do it at the expense of the future.
Why is nuance so difficult?
Yes there were plenty of fans saying give up this this and that to acquire players who were being paid lots of money and have term and would directly effect the teams future for a quick fix that more than likely would of kept us from the ulimate goal of building a true, lasting contender.
I honeslty don't understand nuance in this case. Maybe you were not one of those people but c'mon you read the same messages / social media BS the rest of us do and thats what I heard over and over again
You also have fans now screaming wasted opportunity, yet our core nucleus is just entering their prime so the opportunity is extremly far away from wasted
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I'm perfectly OK with the direction the team is heading and can see improvement.
Looking forward to next season and more improvement, more growth, more excitement
To those desperately wanting to trade assets, over pay for FA's on the downside, making bold moves to win it all now at the cost of a stable future..... pffffffffttttt!
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1 minute ago, Weave said:
I think it’s just a contract detail that needs wrapping up. Nothing more. Nothing less.
I agree ... just the post i was trying to originally reply to just had me scratching my head a little
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Does Levi need mentoring? I mean this man is focused, and mature beyond his age.
Ironically maybe it Levi's preperation andgameday rituals that actually mentors UPL and Cromrie?-
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1 hour ago, kas23 said:
He’d be a free agent this summer.
see above
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2 hours ago, matter2003 said:
Because it burns a year of his ELC and gets him 1 year closer to being an RFA and 1 year closer to being a UFA after that.
I understand ELC in this case
but if we are only going to play him when we are officially eliminated then what you are saying is if we don't play him this year he walks
So if Ryan is holding out and will only sign with Buffalo if he gets to burn a year then he is basically rooting for Buffalo to lose or he wants to re enter the draft
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Early season I would of said he is gone, find a trade partner
End of Season give the guy a solid but reasonable contract
The Sabres should be drafting a Goalie
in The Aud Club
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We don't know for sure but I think we have an idea. His metal lapses don't seem fixable to me. I just think this is part of his game he will never be able to fully shake. Don't want that trait showing up when we're pushing SC runs
But that is all personal opinon, hopefully he proves me wrong