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I use "awesome" so often in posting that I'm left with only "super awesome".

Oops. My post on missed points missed a point.

I think you both missed my point. I'm referring to a human instinct and not a team. The instinct manifests itself in both teams. What's more clear than my "confession" of a conservative?

No ... Neo Cons own it. I was one. Conservatives! I've confessed! You raise a good point. Neo-cons were/are very progressive outside their own boarder.

I can't! I'm a reformed Neo Con, too. I had the same thought today. I am no historian, but even the success we had after WWII was largely infrastructure and other aid. We didn't change hearts and souls. We built churches, bridges and schools while Europe reclaimed its own identities. Japan may be the glaring exception. I'm truly under-informed. Nation building is the hubris of government on the world stage in the same way that social engineering is the hubris of government within a country's own boarders. Show other nations that they'll profit by behaving alongside a democracy and they won't profit if they do not. They'll choose what they choose. The consequences are their own. Do the same within your own boarders. Show people they'll be successful choosing their own destinies and they won't be successful if they don't. The consequences are their own. "We know what's best for others" fails at all levels. Washington telling Iraq how to choose leaders is the global equivalent of Washington telling North Carolina how to pee. Nation building is progressivism on steroids.

"Gov. Romney, I'm glad that you recognize that al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida. You said Russia ... the 1980s, they're now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War's been over for 20 years." Barack Obama. "Well, we're going to hit the reset button and start fresh because clearly the Obama administration believes that there are a number of important areas to discuss with the Russians. We're just at the beginning of this discussion, but I'm looking forward to it." Hillary Clinton. I hear we should be wary of Donald Trump who may, in fact, be doing business with Russia.

To ATL and NB. I may be the source of your "treason" confusion. I mentioned The Espionage Act. The FBI-Clinton investigation related to statutes under the act that deal with, among other things, requirements for handling and safekeeping classified information. I know of no one who thinks she committed treason in its ideological sense. Not even me! The President comes closer in an ideological sense - icrackmeup.

Mouse potatoes, says Vesey.

I'll join thoughts and best wishes, of course, to Buff's family.

I believe that's the conclusion of Haldeman, Dean, Colson, Mitchell, Hunt, McCord, Stans, Liddy, The House Judiciary Committee, Woodward, Bernstein, et al. I can be educated, but I'm comfortable posting about the chronology. The phrase at the time was "What did he know and when did he know it". Nixon carried 49 states. To add, because you made me curious ... There are commentators (including the conservative George Will) who believe Nixon knew in advance. There's no evidence that he knew beforehand, nor was that charge part of contemplated articles of impeachment. Fair and balanced. A good source around your view ... http://observer.com/1999/01/the-great-unsolved-nixon-mystery-did-he-order-watergate-breakin/

That's right! Her party's President, DOJ, AG and IG ... all those the FBI reports to or serves along side of. Que Comey, punting on third down. Honest men can disagree on the conclusion. I can find no politically motivated investigation in those bodies. Quite the opposite. House committees that uncovered the apples to be investigated? Right wing ideologues all day long ... I readily admit ideologues kicked up dirt to start the process. And the band played on ... Comment to both sides: When she wins, we'll have four to eight years of this. Today's spats are prologue. Where's the beef, 21st century iteration.

I hope this makes me even handed. Nixon wasn't about a two bit burglary and a broken tape recorder. Clinton's not about BJs and improper email server use. All four examples tell us about those who arranged, executed, or covered up items and agendas of greater importance. Nixon was going to be impeached for hiding a burglary he didn't arrange, didn't benefit from, and didn't know about before it took place. Maybe he had a tape recorder problem. What mattered was the man and his fitness to serve. Eleven gave me a "come on" earlier. Can I give one back? If it were about BJs and improper use of email, I'd vote for her. BJs don't matter and the IT department handles improper use of email where I work. If I take company secrets and confidential client information offline, deliberately to serve my interests however I define them, HR and "worse" get involved. If I were a lawyer, it'd be partners, ethics committees and Bar organizations. It wouldn't be IT to help with the "server problem". Confession .. My bias runs deeply, here. I don't disqualify her as a human being. I do as a representative. PS ... I almost typed servor! PSS .... I hope I'm consistent. Clinton:server::Lanza:gun. The benign inanimate object isn't the primary issue.

I laughed .... Vesey signs with Chicago and does presser ... "Well, I was very close to signing with Buffalo until this "Pi" guy, or someone, sent me a link to some obscure web blog ....". You're generally very creative. This is some of your best work.

Great question. I honestly don't know. I've not had the FBI describe the facts to me.

I took a pledge, above, which i'll honor for AT LEAST a day or two before falling off the wagon. I am a human being. The BJ matters not one, single, iota to me ....

At some point do you ask ... "How can one family be so close to investigative activity for 23 years"? The Mob's been investigated for a long time, too .... The Clintons are an investigation perpetuity. I don't think the investigators are entirely the reason. And I'll endeavor to stop, or limit, my compulsive and pedantic crusade ... I'll fail, but i'll endeavor.

I farted, today. There's a tornado in Oklahoma. They're not remotely close to the same thing. Using a personal email to send work information is bad. Setting up a server system completely outside of the official government server system and using it exclusively is ..... BUT, let's assume you're correct. Rice and Powell are also unfit to be President.

Everything in politics is a witch hunt. The differentiator is whether or not you're a witch (no gender bias intended, simply using your language). Nixon was a witch hunt. He was a witch, too. Her motive was not espionage in any politically ideological way. Like in everything, her motive was ... "advancing Hillary Clinton". Advancing HRC included jeopardizing US State Secrets and Security. She's not unique in having herself as her own agenda. She is unique in the lengths she'll go and in the enormity of what she'd knowingly put at risk. She's unique in that what she put at risk didn't belong to her. It belonged to you and me. Further, she's is unique in that a chorus of supporters don't require her to tell them the truth and don't believe she's accountable for that which she did deliberately. THAT'S the whole point of my posting, today. My links ... EVEN the left is seeing it. Argue with Joe and Chris ... In her case, state secrets simply got in the way of her personal agenda. I see nothing that explains the situation better than the following. "I want to hide my activity. My critics will use my activity against me and my career will suffer. Hiding my secrets is dangerous and may be espionage. I choose dangerous and maybe espionage. I'll blame the right if caught. The chorus will absolve me." THAT'S the espionage. Now, the competence ..... man, i've used Barney Fife as an example in the past. If Barney Fife were real, HE'D object to the comparison.

Secretaries of State, or Public Servants, don't get privacy with regard to State Secrets. Espionage is the category under which the Comey parsed statute falls. If it sounds absurd and ugly to you, it's because it is. Does that mean we're in agreement under all BUT the espionage thingie? I'll modify further to "investigated, parsed, and uncharged espionage" if that allows us to bridge a gap. I gotta say, Bob, I've heard 'em all ... "she just wanted a little privacy" may take the cake! I'd invite you to spend more time on the subject and cede you the last word.

^ Monsieur Sauve: The one where "extreme recklessness" does not rise to the statutory "gross negligence", the irrelevancy of intent, acknowledged by commentators right and left, notwithstanding. Bonnie and Clyde had Hoover. Clinton had Comey. I'll call that hand a good draw for her. Here is the common ground I can offer ... I'll acknowledge no charges and therefore no crime, if you'll acknowledge it was deliberate, designed to hide records from the American people who own them, contrary to policy and practice of the State and other agencies, never allowed at any agency or rule at any time, comprised of some classified material, similar to the practices of other Secretaries in the same sense that farts are similar to tornadoes, dangerous to the country, deliberate, wholly unrelated to convenience, and a was whisker away from espionage, as described by the FBI. You get there, I'll get to no crime. I have less road to travel.

i didn't know "right and wrong" had to do with who was watching. I will take solace in your assessment that Hillary will have a harder time getting away with things. That should comfort us all. For some, that requires a jail cell!

Awesome. Bonnie and Clyde will be more careful about bank withdrawals, as well.

I've sent Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski, MSNBC, Nicholas Confessore and The New York Times a link to this thread. They're unaware that there's a portion of America that still believes Hillary Clinton. http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/08/08/morning-joe-reacts-convoluted-clinton-claims-nobody-america-believes-her I've also sent CNN and Chris Cuomo admiration notes for honesty even though it falls into the category of the astute grasp of the obvious. Baby steps, baby steps ... http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/08/12/cnn-s-cuomo-comes-right-out-and-admits-it-we-couldn-t-help-hillary-any-more-we-have If the obvious becomes news, I'll soon have more television options. Fever dream fantasy: HRC railing against the "vast left wing conspiracy".

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