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They didn't have any transmissions to the press box or anywhere else at the time. The assistant coach thought it was offsides and told the head coach, who told the officials.
I'm not upset about the rule. I am however upset about the time it took for them to make the call. Five or six minutes of sitting on your hands in the stands waiting...
Ray Ferraro on TSN said the assistant coach sprinted to the tunnel where the video coach is. I didn't even know teams had video coaches.
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If you were at the game and bought a hot dog during that time you would have to bring it back and go to end of line :)
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Two loose ends... on another broadcast they talked about the video review coach sitting at the end of the bench. They said the Ottawa assistant coach sprinted down to the other coach. Where exactly does the video dude sit? Why wouldn't he be upstairs? What's he outfitted with? I trust we have the best video technology in the league. Also how does the coach signal a challenge? Is there a challenge hanky? Does he do semaphore (googled it, don't pat me on the back for that one)? Shoot a t-shirt gun at the ref?
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I didn't expect to like it, but it I did. It did seem to carry on with too many "here we go now"s (twelve consecutive if you count the last two that left out the "now") but I'm sure they'll tweak it into what works best.
Like others I wonder if they will play it if they're on the short end of an out-of-hand game.
Goal songs are not new to the Sabres. They play the song after every goal, just like the horn. I suspect they would tone down the volume for such situations.
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Something tells me there would be dead silence if it was disco dans challenge that called back a goal on an offside. I suspected at the time of the play that it was offside. Linesmen blew the call. Get used to it folks. If there's one thing this league hates its admitting its wrong.
I'd still hate it. I am far from a homer.
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(Know you're making a funny, but ...) If Fart Wander truly does dislike it, enshrine it like the Bills have Shout.
Is he still with us? :unsure: I liked Art. A good, old, grumpy -stirrer like me.
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- I agree that the replay rule is stupid. Every other league tweaks the rules every year to increase offense. Not the NHL.
The only argument the league can make, and it's a slim one, is that a coach who loses a timeout on a failed challenge will not have one at his disposal when his team is gassed after icing the puck, and a few more goals might result. Slim, like I said.
Oh yeah, the Let's Go Buffalo chant during the review was pretty awesome.
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As for the new replay rule, I think the split between posters here who hate it and those who support it it, is at its core (core!), a philosophical one, and an instinctive one to boot.
That whole process just struck me as wrong - contrary to the spirit and flow of the game. More than the prospect of losing the tying goal, I found myself dreading these stoppages generally.
This isn't football. This isn't baseball.
Sds's suggestion on real time review is well taken.
Ya know what it is? It's a return to the nightmare of crease reviews during the bad old days. Except now we're looking at heels of skates on the blue line instead of toes of skates on the crease line. That iconic image of the bug-eyed election supervisor in Florida inspecting the hanging chad comes to mind.
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Remains to be seen. It could. But hopefully they get more efficient w/ it when everybody starts to get used to actually performing the mechanics of the challenge. If they can't get quicker, it will need to go. The review that went against the Habs seemed to be quicker.
The reason it took so damn long is that it was so close. I believe it was offside but no replay was all that conclusive. As with the camera angles around the goal, it was tough to tell from an angle when the puck (or the skate for that matter) crossed the line. Are they really going to rely on these angles? They can't position a camera on the lines (on the glass), or directly over the lines (ceiling level)?
I'll take something back after further review. The goal was scored seconds after the Sabres entered the zone, so this wasn't one of those situations where a lot of time passed. Still, the offside had as much to do with the goal as a false start would have to do with a touchdown. The NHL has enacted a bad solution to a problem that didn't exist.
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Artie Baby Booboo no likey! He cleared his throat and spat on the goal song!!! Stop piping in this crummy music and let the fans cheer!!!! Ptooooeyy!!!
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Here's how you tweak the rule-
No slow motion. If the referee cannot determine offsides at regular speed, then it does not violate the intent of the rule.
I like that. Also give them one minute to make the call. As long as they looked at it tonight suggests it was too close to call.
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Agreed. It worked much better than I thought it was going to.
Maybe they could shorten up the "here we go now"s.
It's a matter of principal (or principle lol). I have to challenge SDS to a duel now. Choose your weapon, sir.
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One thing I always believed about hockey is that the coach should not have a role in the outcome of the game beyond his line-calls.
If there is a challenge it should come from the team captain.
Would you have a problem with a challenge on more definitive offsides, Let's say the offside has to be within five seconds of the goal. I wouldn't. You're correcting a travesty. The NHL likes to tinker. I wouldn't be surprised if this rule gets tweaked like that, especially if a MFT gets screwed.
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I just disagree...I want goal calls to be right. Was anyone saying "sometimes refs just blow the call" in '99? I know the situation was different, but I dunno...I want accuracy.
Ya know that other thing you like? I can tie it into your attitude about reviews. Bow to math and technology. Suck as much life out of the game as you can. Imma go suck a smoke, eat a hot dog, do a line of crack and whack off to midget porn. Once the first resolution falls, the others are voided.
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Maybe I need to listen again. He just seemed to falter, and sink under the weight of the moment.
Perhaps equivocal is not the word I wanted.
Remember how he flubbed Grigorenko's first? I won't make an equivalence to the two moments, but Grigorenko was pretty hot stuff at the time, too. I hate myself for saying this, but maybe the Jeanneret moment we all want so desperately will be better left to the imagination. Meh, it's the first game for him too. What he needs is better hockey. I don't know how anyone can make sense of the hot mess that is 95% of games like that.
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What a crock of ###### that call was. Another Buffalo screw job. What was Zemgus offside by? an inch???
How many goals in NHL history would be disallowed by this new momentum killing challenge nonsense? It's hard for a human eye to even perceive that small an infraction.
Game went from a great comeback game where Buffalo's two new stars each get a goal to tie it up to this crap. Fans should be ANGRY!!!!
Remember that as long as the puck doesn't leave the zone, they can go back and review an offside. Imagine losing a playoff series winning goal or overtime goal after you've had the puck in the opposing zone for two minutes. What is the league thinking? I guess they love to take away offense.
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And, yeah. I posted upthread that RJ's call of Captain America's first career goal was ... almost equivocal.
How so?
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Boy, did Eichel's game change after that goal. The energy and aggression on the puck really picked up after that goal.
It's almost certainly been mentioned, but when he put the puck behind the defenseman on the rush, went wide and still got to it before the goalie did... that was magical. I still can't believe I saw that. I'm even doubting my eyes in my postgame fog. That happened, right?
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I don't have time to read back through everything. Did anyone mention how similar Eichel's goal was to Drury's Who Else goal? Pretty crummy call by Rick. It does make me wonder what's left in his tank.
As for the overturned goal, not a fan of that rule. An offside on a rush that leads to a goal right away sure. But that offside had nothing to do with the goal really. What a soul-sucking moment for a hockey game that was about to become a good one. What are the refs looking at? Is that my old dumb phone?
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Was the song really that loud in the arena? It dominated the audio on TV.
Meh, I guess I can live with it. At least we got to hear it once.
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Was "confirmed" one of the results on the old Magic Eight Ball? The lamest of all Christmas presents, BTW.
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Already testing the limits of that new season resolution, eh? :P
It's not midnight yet.
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They're waiting until the first goal is scored.
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Tune into GR @4:30
Will GR have the vote winner or the announcement of the song (not necessarily the same thing)?
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No voting results? What are they hiding?
GDT: Ottawa @ Buffalo, 7pm edt, 10/08/2015
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So he was imagining a future with whole grain pasta?