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OK, I'll play along. (I'm not actually so virulently anti-analytics as it might seem, I just tend to hate what Corsi has become.) What about an old-fashioned stopwatch? Measure possession by how long the puck is in either offensive zone, no matter who is controlling it.
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I didn't see it, but what was the controversy about the Flyer catching a puck? You can catch a puck, but you can't skate with it. What happened there? Anyone?
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Young couple accidentally runs short of money at Valentine's Day dinner, until...
http://www.bradfordera.com/news/article_c30f9a5e-b7cd-11e4-9f5f-f70afdf7af86.html
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This cracked me up.
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We are due for a shutout. I predict nobody scores. Ennis will lead the team with 3 SOG's. Good times.
At least nobody will have an enjoyable evening.
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Or snake calls.
Took me a second...
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Curious that you think the better data from the NHL will remove the need for the stats nerds. The fact that the NHL is even doing this is due to the success of the stats nerds within the NHL and the other professional sports and the result will be even more work for them with a wealth of new information.
Probably. But I imagine the NHL will develop an official time of possession stat and that will make Corsi obsolete, since the idea of Corsi is to try and deduce possession time from certain events on the ice.
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Who doubts that the Flyers' HOF ceremony for Eric Desjardins will be 10x better than the Sabres' number ceremony for Dominik Hasek?
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When does this day come?
Scoreboard? That's such an antiquated, primitive notion. The smarty-pants can tell you who really won the game. After all, the score is just an eye test, an imprecise representation of how each team played in totality relative to one another. Surely, there has to be a better way.
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There's no debate left to have. Those who continue to engage in such a debate are just diddling their ding-a-ling, or maybe diddling their neighbour's.
Regarding possession, there is room for debate. Reasonable people can debate how to measure possession. Is it best measured by shots directed at the goal? That's not why Corsi came up with it. And it took some dweeb in Edmonton hearing Darcy talking about Corsi's stat to come up with the idea for measuring possession that way. Seems fairly Scotch-taped together. Then, the kicker is that the data is suspect. Everyone knows that. What's the value of the product of a shaky philosophy and bad data?
I'm looking forward to the NHL chip thingie so we can have a precise idea of possession time, so the nerds can go back to heating up Hot Pockets and watching War Games. (Running out of snark.)
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Speaking of stats and goalies, did anyone else see the HNIC breakdown of Millers game during one of the intermissions of the Canucks/Flames game on Saturday (Hockey Day, or Canada Day, or whatever it was called)? It was really cool and I can't find it anywhere.
It pretty much said we've all said, and there may be somethin to Ghost's theory. From inside where most shots come from, Miller is 1st among all goalies. From all the perimeter zones (I think there were six) he was 29th and worse.
They then went on to show the subtle changes in style over time. Good stuff. I wish I could find it.
One of the zones was "He never saw it," the other was "Never had a chance." A third zone was curiously labeled "WTF!"
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I'm not booing, I'm chanting dudacek.
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3 for 3. Mike starting to come to the fore a bit.
As is the lady friend.
Had to love the "Heeeere's Johnny" moment and the "straight from Satan's bunghole" line.
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If the media is the main reason players hate Toronto, then I can see why players would hate Buffalo -- The Buffalo News and WGR.
That's funny. If Harrington's bad, imagine 10 guys who are twice as bad — that's 20 Harrington Units!
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Do you think the Sabres have hired more alumni than other franchises?
And how exactly did those hires "do the Sabres in, year in, year out?" Luce hasn't been with the Sabres since 2006. Meehan left in 1994. Dudley in 1991.
Variation on a theme. Every owner "meddles." Every franchise hires alumni. One of them wins the Cup every year. What's the problem? If every other franchise heavily weighs alumni status when hiring, what advantage would it be if your franchise didn't weigh it at all and went out and got the best talent available?
###### (in•cest; really?) is convenient, but not the best option. Think about what faced Terry when he bought the Sabres. Guy's a fan, wants to win Cups, has several billion jangling around in his pocket. The tree of the Sabres braintrust starts with pal Cliff Benson and goes to Cliff's client Ted Black to Ted's old boss Ken Sawyer. We could have had the most brilliant hockey minds culled from around the world. We have an old boys network. Throw in Craig Patrick if you want.
It's stupid. But, wait for it... that's how the world works. Everyone does it.
Should TG's starting roster and TP's starting roster be considered in this "analysis?"
Sure. 2002-2003 vs. 2010-2011 Sabres.
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Stop right there. Is Terry a dirty Meddler? Or is he a good owner putting his hockey people in charge of the hockey decisions? You can't rail against him for being a meddler and then give Tim the credit when the team is good.
I can rail against him for having been a meddler, applaud him for stopping and give Tim credit for the result. If that's how it plays out, yes, I can. It's a nuanced point. I don't expect TrueBlue to get it, because it's not iPegula%. I expect more from you. I am disappointed. Your mother and I both.
I'm not positing such logic, simply saying that Terry is not an anomaly and his activity is much more par for the course. Owners want to know what's going on and be involved, if only to be informed. Again, there has been zero "evidence" that he has interfered with hockey ops.
Golisano vs. Pegula. Tom didn't know a puck from a meatball, and he admitted as much. He'd never get down in the trenches with GMs and scouts. He was appropriately involved and informed. First four years of Terry vs. first four years of Tom, who's the better owner?
I always find it odd that many of Pegula's defenders will only defend him to a point. They point out he's doing what every other owner does, he has a right to be informed, etc. No one seems to be comfortable with taking the privileges of ownership to the logical extreme. Do you or do you not want Terry to have the right to pick up the phone and tell Murray to trade one of Risto/Zads? If not, why not? He owns the team!
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I don't doubt it now, and with Buffalo's reputation around the US. Hopefully when the Sabres are "good" (or great) that'll outweight the negatives and folks will see that Buffalo really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Especially for these guys, I doubt they're shoveling their own snow before work which is really the major down-side.
How many live in Buffalo anyway? When you have that much money, you're going to live in a really nice house in a really nice suburb and your kids are going to go to good schools, no matter what city you're attached to.
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Good find. Here's a link to the actual list (you have to be an Insider to view the entire piece):
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By whom? Holding an owner accountable for what exactly? He owns the team and does as he wants.
Holding an owner accountable for what? How about the state of the franchise? Owners get credit when their teams win and blame when they lose. Except Terry. He seems to be iron-clad. Maybe we're hung up on what "holding to account" means.
If you dont think most owners aren't at least as involved as TP and KP you really don't know what you're talking about.
I really don't know. And as much as we've all wondered, and some have researched, it's really hard to nail down what goes on behind closed doors. Terry made the mistake early on of flapping his gums a lot, going on the radio and so forth, so those who wanted to pay close attention got a pretty clear picture of how he was handling things. Plus his daughter tweeted.
My point all along has been if every other owner meddles, and meddling by non-hockey people is not a good idea, then having an owner who doesn't meddle has to be an advantage. The definition of meddling is key, and I'm not going into that again. It's funny though, the logic of it. Every other owner meddles. Every Cup champion has a meddling owner. Meddling is good.
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All the former players everywhere under the old regieme. Everyone except Perreault has been hired for something important somewhere down the line. Lindy Ruff, Rick Dudley, Don Luce Gerry meehan, larry carriere, how many others do I have to name?
I would like to believe his question was sarcastic, but I probably should know better by now.
Accountability? Never.
You're right. Has Terry been held to account for anything? Has one fan admitted they were wrong about him?
With all these meddling charges, you're setting yourself up to have to pray at the altar of Terry of the Sabres become good.
Stop right there. Good isn't the goal here, and you know it. Sabres get back in the playoffs, and I'm supposed to get down on my knees?
But using merely good as the standard, if the Sabres are good anytime soon, I'll attribute it to Terry letting Tim do his thing, as perhaps evidenced by the quote after the Kane trade, something like, "Terry said do what you think is best." I don't think Darcy ever got that courtesy. So, maybe there's progress.
Having said all that, if Murray wants Richardson but Terry wants and gets Babcock, and the Sabres win big under Babcock, I will be the first to applaud that particular bit of meddling. Because it's more of an overarching decision (veteran vs. rookie coach), it's not Terry saying, "Wow, that German kid sure can skate. Go get him."
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Terry didn't want another unproven coach for his Bills. He wanted someone who's been around, has a name. He said that. He said that. And he got it. Of course he didn't meddle. He doesn't meddle. What does he want for the Sabres? He admires the Wings and Pens. He admires the Pens so much his braintrust is chock full of former Pens execs. I assume he wants Bylsma or Babcock. I imagine he'll get it. What Murray wants won't matter. He's just the GM. /realitycheck
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No, but I did listen in for the first time in a while.
What did I say?
It was brilliant! The guy was from LA.
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huh?
It was a bad aerial hoops joke. Now NS has to show me how to apologize with class.
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