Broken Ankles
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12 minutes ago, krakensabr56390 said:
Not to be repetitive, but this is such a non-story it’s hilarious. I mean malynstein applied for arb last year too. It’s a very typical ploy for mid to low level rfa free agents to give them some negotiating power. Has nothing to do with the team and his agent would’ve done this no matter if he was traded or not most likely.
The issue is people assigned some type of second round value to JBD. It’s pretty obvious in retrospect that this was just a false thinking because people did not like the idea of adding to cozens to get Norris.
It should’ve been obvious to us when looking at his history that he was waived last year and no one claimed him. Do we really think Buffalo, despite how negative everyone is about their management, would pay a second round draft pick for a player that was on waivers a couple month earlier?
If no one else claimed him when he was free, why would they pay a draft pick for him now? It’s not like he did anything remarkable like Fabbro
All valid. And I did not suggest that JBD is worthy of the second round pick. Maybe closer to the Gilbert return than the second. But in between. My point is how Adams said he was #8. Bryson was also waived, and previously not qualified. Maybe he is a much better teammate than we imagine. But I’ve seen enough to know he’s probably the #7 LD in the system. A few more random thoughts. If JBD was waived, why is Adams worried about what an arbitration might yield? What is the max award he might receive? $1.5m? That’s the ceiling right? He signed for under $900k. And probably closer to $1.25m. My point is, with a lack of right handed D available, I would rather keep him over Bryson. I can be persuaded that he might not in the top 6, but for an additional $250k, I’d rather him, than Jacob.
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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:
I added him... he's bad. They would be better off dumping him and keeping Docker or probably even bringing up Ryan Johnson.
Agree with all this. Player evaluation (and development) has been questionable at best with this regime of coaches and GM. How is JBD worse than Bryson? Plus he is a right handed shot. To your point, Johnson or Novikov could fill that role of #6. And if, if you somehow extricate the AAV for Mr.Glass, then you might have been able to plugged in an even better partner for Power. But we all know if Adams was to able to move his $4.4m cap number, it’s doubtful they spend it elsewhere. Something like
Dahlin/Weegar
Power/Kesselring
JBD/ Novikov.
That group would be ~$1m more than what the Sabres ice after Timmins raise and keeping Samuelsson. I would love to know if Adams actively tried to move JBD and received no offer. Like every GM said hard pass.
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6 hours ago, JohnC said:
If you are saying that Ruff isn’t much of a factor in these offseason transactions, then I respectfully but strenuously disagree with you.
Strenuously disagree?
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2 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:
yo - how'd you embed that video without an apparent YouTube link?
Site called Clip Cafe, where you can download into an Mp4 file and then attach and insert. Their site gave me a nice, succinct clip of the scene with RP McMurphy vs YouTube's clip, which was much longer. I chose brevity for the viewer, even though it took me a little longer to complete the post.
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5 hours ago, Turbo44 said:
Yep esp millers and ceci’s. Granlund I thought was going to get $6m per so he’s not that out of line. Ehlers will prob get $9m or more, which is a pipe dream for us. Hoping for Suter for us, maybe 2 years 4.5 - 5 per
re-up Byram 2 for 13m, Timmins 2 for 4m, sign Suter 2 for 9m, leaves us with 1m or so cap space, call it an offseason and I think most of us would be happy
The Ducks organization is interesting, with massive cap space ($29M) even after this signing. Only McTavish remaining as an RFA. Young forwards like Terry, Gauthier, and Carlsson are all high draft picks and ready to take the next step. Then add a new head coach, and trades to shake up the core. Live look at Verbeek talking to Adams.
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9 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said:
…because I’m running out of excuses for missing the playoffs, again.
…and if you even infer that you don’t want to be here, then I’ll find a way to trade you for younger and cheaper assets. It’s called purgatory kids. Look it up.
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1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:
Ok, next to the Sabres I probably follow the Leafs the most of any time. Listen to a LOT Of 590 out of Toronto (seeing how I can't stand WGR and Mike Schopp and live in Northern Niagara county so I get the Canadian stations in pretty clearly.) So I'm trying to think of what I remember about Timmins game...
Now the stats might prove my impression totally wrong, but what I THINK I remember about him is he was a decent skater but not fast at all, and he doesn't like to carry the puck. He would be a guy on a breakout that once he got the puck, he never took more than a stride or two with it, he would almost immediately pass it to someone else. Was not a 'full motor' guy, but more of a guy that paced himself, conserved energy on the ice and maybe took a slightly longer shift because of it.
Of course, he was not one of the main guys in Toronto, so my memory and attention to him wasn't all that great.
All this talk and effort acquiring a RHD...I personally never thought Jokiharju was all that bad and I'm not sure how much better these guys are than he was.
Agreed. But injuries forced Joki to play in top 4 more often than not. And his $4m AAV was a hinderance for a guy playing PK when not suited, and not getting time on PP, bc he was behind Ras, power and Byram. Kesselring and Docker offer balanced pairings and can play a much better complimentary game up and down the line up.
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3 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:
Dallas want futures for Robertson for the cap space. Picks and prospects.
Benson is the equivalent of a future, and does not hurt their cap number this year. Next years first from Buffalo could be higher than most, if history is any indication. And they could flip Byram for two late firsts next year.
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9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
I will fight you in the parking lot.
Asked, Answered. I get Benson is a hill you die on (not others) but next years first? The trade makes the team much better immediately.
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3 hours ago, Turbo44 said:
Adams: hello, wake the fuuck up. Not sure what it would take but make it happen
2026 1st
2 too prospects
prob more
#9 in 2025 would have been a good starting point!!! Instead he drafted a 6’6” monster that won’t be ready to play for us until 2029
Robertson is a type you give up whatever it takes, he’s that fuucking good
Byram, Benson and next years first round pick for Robertson. Who says yes?
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16 minutes ago, oddoublee said:
Nick bakay
Is it not Josh Allen?
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3 minutes ago, shrader said:
It’s crazy how much he looks exactly like a lady I work with.
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I'm glad I had the opportunity to experience the trade while visiting family in the 716. Loving the chance to discuss with friends and family. I seem to align with a few on the board, including @Archie Lee - I'll need to see what Adams does with the cap space and the decision on Byram and #9OA before I make a final judgment on the offseason. If this was just a ploy to reduce cap, then Adams is a bigger clown than I imagined. I'll reserve judgment on the trade itself until Thanksgiving.
A few quick/random thoughts -
- The origin story of JJP's desire to leave will always be tied Adams' failures, the early years.
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Doan is not a 4th line player. 41% of his even-strength time last year was on the third line. He had the greatest success playing alongside
LAWSON CROUSE & JACK MCBAIN. Why would he not have similar results with Benson and McLeod.
- JP's production in the top six will be replaced by Kulich. He's ready to take the next step. I can see 20+ on the second line.
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The team is tougher than it was last week, and still needs MORE.
- Trade out for Mr. Glass, and bring more sandpaper and grit to the Defense.
- Can Weegar be extracted from Calgary?
- Heard a rumor while downtown, enjoying the sounds of Sublime by Badfish: Terry is considering selling the Sabres. There is interest from a private equity group. The source is not a Sabre insider but someone who is in similar social circles.
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23 minutes ago, inkman said:
You are acting as if this concept is new. All of the Sabres good players are going to leave. It’s not a matter of “if” it’s just matter of “when”. Frankly, I’m ready for this franchise to fold or leave. We hate them. They act like they hate us. Just be done with it already.
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9 hours ago, Alaska John said:
I haven't been paying much attention to the Sabres in the off season so I have to ask, what's behind this desire to trade Byram? When he came in for Mittelstadt it sounded like a win for the Sabres (and the Avalanche proceeded to trade Casey to the Bruins). Have the Sabres decided Byram wasn't good enough?
Read this entire thread and you will get an idea that some fans appreciate his play more than others. I fall in line with you that he was a win in terms of trade, but it never translated to wins for Buffalo as a team.
The argument to trade (adding on to what Steve wrote) is the Sabres not only paid Power, but also overpaid Samuelsson and Clifton. They have, going into the offseason $28m committed to the blue line and they still don’t have a veteran to pair with Power. If you pay Byram $8m+, then you would have ~$2m more than any other team in the league on Defense and unless you can somehow trade for the stabilizing force to help Owen and remove both contracts of Samuelsson and Clifton (call it $7.8m), then you have the top paid Defensive unit in the league. But are they better? I fall into the category of trying to extricate three players - Mule, Clifton and one of Power or Byram. Rasmus can play either side so it frees you up to trade for a L/R player that is hard nosed and a top PK guy. Then another similar stay at home defender to play alongside Power/Byram. If the third pairing is JBD and say Novikov (entry level) your cap is aligned and balanced.
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1 hour ago, dudacek said:
As far as I'm concerned JJ is an avatar for the team: young, talented and more interested in the sizzle than the substance.
The nonsense being stirred by his agent is proof of that.
Far better to move Peterka now when his value is probably as high as it will ever be, then sign him to a long-term $8M deal and watch him go on to a Jeff Skinner-esque career.
You aren't going to get what you need trading Östlund or Rosen, and the team is better served giving JJ's minutes to players that understand winning hockey.
If you believe in Kulich or Benson, then this provides them an opportunity. Same goes for Quinn.
I'm a little tired of people whining about the Sabres not taking any big swings then immediately shutting down any proposals other teams might actually bite on.
This is where we have both value and the depth to overcome trading it for what we need.
This is the right move.
I appreciate the thought and rationale. I’d like to add one more reason why I’d be fine with the move. There may be better return for a team willing to trade D for a young forward and reluctance to trade D for D, D for two prospects, or D for #9 overall. If you go into the offseason limited in trading only prospects and/or Byrum, you are narrowing the teams willing to trade with you for the stay at home defender you desire. Adding JJP to mix opens up other avenues. Maybe Byrum and a prospect could yield a top 6 forward that is a better fit for the Sabres. Options.
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10 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
Where? I'm on a Bruins board and it's really not a thing. The general attitude there is very different for obvious reasons. Swayman took most of the heat/blame this year and half of them always hate management regardless of what happens.
As an aside, I've seen a lot of posts lately saying "get Peterka" now that they hired Sturm as head coach. The other Sabres they like at various times have been Tuch and Thompson. Dahlin isn't mentioned but that's probably because they have McAvoy. Nobody else. And yes, Sabres are sometimes mentioned as a lesson in how NOT to do things.
Sometimes? There should be a list of Adams faux pas that every GM must read on day 1.
Thinking back to year one or two after the Pegula purchase, when there was actual hope, there was something on twitter - #Blueprint. Almost comical to think about that today. -
16 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:
The most poignant Terry-DarthPegulas-like thing about this entire quote is that to him this one player is going to make them contenders (as Leino was after a good playoff series, or Ehrhoff was because he was a good PP1 guy with the Sedins*). And then, what do they do?
- Sign Hall to 1-year deal. That's it! Because there's no need to build around the future of Eichel/Reinhart because you're not keeping either of them anyway. Teams don't ever build or grow over multiple years together!
- Skate Hall on the same line as Eichel. Rather than having Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart be line 1 with Eichel as the carrier, and Hall-Staal-TNT as line 2 with Hall as the line driver.
- Allllll the other things that would make this list all the other threads on this board.
Note: The dark side is the quick and easy path ("look how much smarter we are than those hockey people").
*And Ehrhoff was far-and-away the Sabres best offensive d-man and their best corsi guy all-around, it just shouldn't have the 1st-year $10M part of the contract.
The Baron of blunder is still paying Christian for three more years. Second longest buyout to DiPietro. Fitting Erhoff finds his way into this thread. Both he and Kevyn taking $900k/year from the Duke of disappointment; and neither contributing to making the playoffs.
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9 hours ago, Pimlach said:
I was shown how to get access to the article. Adams is defensive on his qualifications for the job but there is no doubt he has been way over his head and that Terry hired him to control everything.
From the Fairburn article:
On Oct. 11, 2020, five months after hiring Adams, Pegula stood inside his new general manager’s office. At that point, Adams had no assistant GMs. His director of scouting was Jeremiah Crowe, who had three years of pro scouting experience before getting elevated to that role. The analytics department was Jason Nightengale. This was the first day of NHL free agency. Pegula and Adams discussed the possibility of signing Taylor Hall to a one-year, $8 million contract.
Hall had won the Hart Trophy two years earlier with a 39-goal, 54-assist season for the New Jersey Devils. The Sabres had failed to qualify for the expanded 24-team playoff during the pandemic, extending their playoff drought to nine seasons.
"We sign this guy,” Pegula said to Adams in a behind-the-scenes video released by the Sabres, “we’re not only trying to make the playoffs. We’re trying to win the Cup.”
“Yeah,” Adams said. “I mean this is … yeah.”
This is dysfunction at the highest levels. Terry was clueless to think that signing Taylor Hall, and underachiever for most of his career, made his Oct 2020 roster a playoff roster, yet he thinks it made them a cup contender. This would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.
That moment coupled with his follow up embarrassing quote in a blue/gold video - “Matt Irwin - we got ‘em”, will forever capture the ineptitude of Kev. I mean, are you not getting final say after the editing? Did you not look at either of those two moments and second guess it?
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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:
We don't need 2 rhd stay at homes, we need one for Power. Dahlin needs a lhd stay at home type.
Just because he can play on his off-hand, doesn’t mean he should. Dahlin provides flexibility that other defenders do not but for planning, it needs to be RD. In addition, others on the farm (little Nikita and RJ) are LD and will soon need a vet RD to support. Let’s cross that bridge now in stead of waiting like they did with Owen.
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59 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Jake Allen maybe?
Actually Anton Forsberg is an option, Our new Sr advisor knows him
Forsberg, with a high bid on AAV (cause taxes and tree types) but low term. Give him a legit chance to capture a 1a role and spin it into a long term deal in summer of 2026/27. Don’t use trade capital on a Demko or others this year. Use Bo + prospects + Draft picks to solidify two RD/stay at home types. Then see results of a 1a/1b tandem can do. We need at least one season with a respectable top 4 group.
Question is how much does the offer have to be over others to convince a UFA to sign with Buffalo? If he was $2.75M in OTT would $4M do it?
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28 minutes ago, dudacek said:
I’m not advocating this, but I suspect the Sabres might be willing to take on Kreider.
A big, veteran leader with PP skills and some edge to his game, who gets to the net and scores dirty goals.
The contract, age and the season he just had make him a big risk and I worry our management will overpay.
But as a cap dump in a deal that nets us better assets, I might consider the risk.
The Rangers are one of the few teams with cap issues, and Im curious how desperate they are to dump him.
I agree that the Sabres would/could accept the “camp dump” (hard saying this about a guy who has averaged 33 goals per season the last three). Assuming JJP is going the other way, what does taking Kreider on net you as the return from the Rangers?
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2 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
That's rhetorical right?
Yeah. I’m trying to do the math though to see how large of an indictment it is on Adams. The smaller his salary, the bigger the problem is.
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We will know by 5pm today, right? Isn’t July 6th the deadline to file for club elected arbitration?