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  1. 5 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

    You seem to have forgotten Christian Dvorak went for a 1st & a 2nd last year and he has never reached 40 pts in a season.  Also the Kapenan deal  7 players and picks.  
    Odds are if Mitts gets traded it will be in a larger deal involving players picks and prospects to make the cap considerations and valuations work.  Harrington even brought up his name in a proposed Chychrun deal. 

    Admittedly Mitts is struggling this season in both ends 5 on 5.  The question is are all those numbers on him, or because of poor line mates or poor defense/goaltending or poor coaching usage or some combo of all 4?  I do think he has played to much perimeter hockey ytd and I’d like to see him drive more to the net.  He isn’t a small player and should go to the dirty areas.  I also think his line in general needs to be more physically assertive.  As I’ve said before, I’d like to see DG add Z to the line to add more physicality and north/south play to the line.

         You are right, I did. He was 25 and he had signed an extension to carry him into UFA.   It may have been the final nail in Marc B’s career as a GM.  Dvorak was supposed to be a replacement for 2 gaping holes at center for Montreal.   From the limited games I’ve seen has been given the chance to play 2C and has to be considered a disappointment based on his contract and what they gave up to get him.  And he’s a different player than Mitts.  My money has Savoie as the 3C and Rasmus II as 4C with some UFA additions to fill out the bottom six next year.  I’d like to see him moved to Minnesota for Marcus.  I’m sure you feel that would be pittance of a return, but time will tell. 

  2. 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

    Let’s revisit if Mitts finishes this season with 45-50 pts.  You better believe if he finishes with 45-50 pts on a 2.5 mill contract and team control, that KA could get a 1st for him.  That said he finishes at that level, KA probably keeps him and the people here jump on the bandwagon.

    Chances for a first? The Blutarsky.  Zero point zero.  The last 24-year-old with a reasonable AAV to garner a first round pick in return was Kapanen in a 2020 Toronto/Pittsburgh trade.  KK had consecutive seasons of 40 points seasons with a positive corsi and plus/minus.  He also had 39 Even strength points.  Mitts has   3 even strength points.  That projects to 11, and that’s IF he can play a full season.  Which he has yet to prove.  He’s a negative Corsi guy who is weak on the puck in both zones. His comparable is somewhere between Kapanen and Milano,  who didn’t receive a QO from the Ducks.  Closer to Santino.  You’ve always had a bias for this player.  Made clear by the tone in your response to John.  Followed by the inkling that he hits 50 points this season.  By the way, he said he had little value, not zero.  But he certainly could, if they hold for one more year. 

  3. 1 hour ago, Taro T said:

    Granato seemed to be (except for the late Stamkos goal) matching lines.  Are we FINALLY out of "development" & into "let's act like other NHL teams" by matching lines & unbalancing the forwards ice time when they don't deserve to get balanced ice time.

    Power, even w/ the assist, did not bring his A game.  Fully expect he'll bounce back in Detroit.  And still nearly won it had the puck settled down for him.

    UPL.  He needs to get his movement under control better & take away the bottom of the net.

    The PK.  They'd been pressuring the past couple of games and looking good.  This one they gave way too much space.

     

    On Granato, help me understand HOW after going up 5-3, you Ice your worst line? Clearly struggling defensively is Mitts and Olofsson yet they are out there for the faceoff.   It’s a failing decision right? 

    We saw so many growing pains with Dahlin his rookie/sophomore year, we must expect some bad nights with Power.  

    UPL…


    PK - we have the Matt Ellis of NHL Penalty Kills. 

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  4. 1 hour ago, Crusader1969 said:

    they want a young roster player with term.  Besides Krebs, who else is there ?  
     

    if you give up Krebs and the 1st. Maybe your prospect can be someone drafted in round 4 or so 

    When was the last time a GM gave up / traded a piece they just acquired in a trade over a player drafted by another GM.  It’s why I always think Mitts is somehow in the mix. Unless Krebs was specifically a target, and I can’t see that. 

  5. Zay Jones and Cinci do the Bills a solid today.  Doug “balls” Peterson goes for 2 to win the game for the Jags against Baltimore.  And the Bengals beat Tennessee to place the Bills ahead of both for home field and a first round bye. Just take care of your conference games against the East.  
    GIF by Saturday Night Live

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  6. 7 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

    With Asplund injured and Hino in the box, do any of these combinations move you? (Only one option with Mitts+VO)

    Girgensons - Mittelstadt - Okposo
    Olofsson - Krebs - Jost

    Olofsson - Girgensons - Okposo
    Krebs - Mittelstadt - Jost

    Girgensons - Jost- Okposo
    Krebs - Mittelstadt - Olofsson

    Girgensons - Jost- Okposo - your option # 3 looks like what Donnie is using tonight

    With KO drawing in tonight, and Krebs to the box is this line #3 with more minutes?   

    And does the Mitts line becomes the defacto #4?  And if Asplund is back soon (day to day), can I live with 74- 37-71? sure. 

  7. 20 hours ago, Taro T said:

    Mittelstadt's line was as bad as their haters said in the 1st.  But, they actually played pretty well in the 2nd & generated chances in the 3rd.

    Agree with most of your post except except ….

    This threesome had 5 shifts in the second period.  Twice they played with 23/26.  In their first shift Mitts won a FO early and the Cozens line scored immediately after in transition.  The fifth shift of the period was their best with a Def zone face-off win  and a HD chance with Mitts feeding Vinnie.  Two other shifts had zero pressure or zone entry with ‘one and done’.  Another had no shots or attempts.  Zero sustained pressure. 
      In the third, their first shift was following the PK.  A classic “dump and lose” strategy followed by a rush with a bad pass in the slot picked off. The second shift was an offensive zone face-off which they lost followed by the blues scoring but call back on an offsides challenge.  Their third shift was a highlight where Mitts had a good stick check on Leddy which led to a high danger chance and a pass to Vinnie in front.  The fourth shift was a FO win followed by a loss of possession with a Kyrou HD chance against.  The fifth shift started with a FO loss. And Barbashiv hit the crossbar and the Blues missed another opportunity on the rebounds.  That possession was followed by a Quinn goal.  Their 6th of the period Vinnie stalled at the blue line.  Their seventh shift highlight was a weak  Mitts backhand stolen. Zero pressure. 
     

     This line has played together for 23 minutes and has a 42% corsi, with 2 GA and  zero for.  Enough already.  Poorly conceived and needs to be changed ASAP. They lose every puck battle and have no physicality in either zone.  Mitts needs to be moved to 4C, Vinnie to the presbox (when 74 and 21 are healthy) and Krebs to Rochester.  Maybe the new 3rd line is 28-17-71. Or KO replacing Z when he’s back. Something.  Anything.  

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  8. 14 minutes ago, Thorny said:

    I agree with those online saying it only really makes sense if there’s a trade coming. Otherwise it’s another 12th/13th forward indistinguishable from our other fringe NHLers. 

    Or maybe he called Kevyn and said he wanted to be here and there’s going to be a 20 min embedded Buffalo thing about it who knows 

    I can see it now…..

    Fade In: Kev’s Office at Habor Center.  (Kevyn Adams on the phone with Toronto - we hear them confirm their waiver claim was successful)

    “We got ‘em”.  
     

     

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  9. 47 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

    I'm going to ask the question I kinda brought up the other day that no one has really answered.

    Why the hate on Mitts? Why do so many people say they are done with him? And if you trade him, you are creating a hole how do you fill?

    He is on pace for 50 points. He is killing penalties and NOT making mistakes doing so to cause goals.  I mentioned I checked last week that as of then he was over 50% on faceoffs.  Reviewing all the goals the Sabres allowed, he has not been out of position or made major mistakes to cause many of them (unlike Krebs, Cozens, Quinn, and Peterka). He was/is 4th in ice time among forwards.  The only reason I can see for all the hate is people WANTING him to be on pace for 35+ goals whiile he is only on pace for 20.  But he is playing a role on this team that is above replacment value for sure.

    No ‘hate’ from me, just not the player I expected at age 23 and drafted 8OA.  I also look at the pipeline and can see younger players like Savoie easily filling his role as a 3C next year. And guys like Quinn/JJP are preferred over Mitts in a middle six role on the wing. Younger, cost controlled, and higher ceilings.  
      Just because he plays the PK doesn't mean he is good at it. I mean the Sabres are dead last in PK for November, and bottom 4 for the year. 
      His 5v5 stat line is bad.  Two points?  Kinda sad if 4th in ice time wouldn’t you say? 
       Projected for 50 points?  Are you assuming he can play 82?  Because that’s doubtful based on history.  Durability is another question mark.  
      And as noted in this thread and others, the Sabres lack grit. Hence the debate on picking up a guy like Horvat.  The Sabres need more guys like him than Mitts. 
      If we can sell his stock before it falls and get any help on the right side of the defense, I’m all in.  Krebs can fill in as 4C short term, and Asplund can move into a 3C.  

  10. 4 minutes ago, Toilet_Mop said:

    I think our prospects are over valued 

    Corey Pronman of the Athletic just ranked the Sabres with the absolute best prospect pool in all the NHL.   Under 22 years.  So while our team may be struggling, there is unanimous sentiment that the prospects are well above average. 

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  11. 2 hours ago, Toilet_Mop said:

    Okay I see your point on Jokiharju but still don't think he's anything special at all. Have Vancouver add Schenn in there 

    I say Vancouver because they're off to a bad start and they might also like to shake things up a bit. I'd say their roster is better right now than the Sabres. And isn't Horvat unlikely to sign? I'd take him in a second. Boeser has zero goals on the season but has been proven effective in the past 

    To BUF:

    Boeser, Horvat, Schenn 

    To VAN 

    Two firsts (or 5 don't care seen enough Mittlestadts and Nylanders) 

    Jokiharju 

    Quinn 

    Peterka 

    And could even take more than that but I'd do it 

     

        I have to agree with Liger - lopsided beyond belief.  Horvat is a UFA in 2023.  Use the Giroux trade as a comparable.  Leader, Center and traded at the deadline last year to Florida.  Slightly older. What did the Flyers get in return? Owen Tippet (High draft pick, 23, hasn't played a full season with 21 points as career high), a 2024 first round pick (two years away) and a 2023 3rd rounder.   So if I knew I could sign Horvat to an extension and thought it was the right move, would I give them Mitts, 2024 3rd round + 2025 1st and Mitts, sure. 

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