Broken Ankles
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28g, 30a on 70 games played.
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Sorry, but someone had to do it.
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1 hour ago, Night Train said:
Agree completely but JC..at least he tried and didn't run it back again. A real fear prior. I'll give it a chance and think one more player is coming.
KA leaving Terry's office after getting fired next April. "But I tried, didn't I ***** it. At least I did that."
In this sequence, I'm Taber - I'll bet a buck it doesnt work.
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1 hour ago, Taro T said:
Actually, because a player played in the NCAA, a team gets his rights for twice as long as if he'd gone to Juniors. Kids that play in the CHL and aren't signed within 2 years go back into the draft. Doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
That's in place, because kids in Juniors can have signed pro contracts. It's going to change soon, but NCAA players weren't allowed to play college hockey if they had been "professionals." So, teams can sign guys right after the draft or anytime within those 1st 2 years if he went Junior, but couldn't sign a college kid until he leaves. Without that rule in place, nobody would have ever signed an 18 or 19 yo college kid unless he was really special like an Eichel because they'd all be back in the draft before they'd played their Junior Year of college hockey.
Will be interesting to see how that changes with the next CBA.
But do they? If they sign the player after Year 2 from Junior, you could have another 3 years on an ELC where you maintain the rights, and really not much risk to losing the prospect as they can play in the AHL at a salary of about $70k. It's just a roster spot, and most teams are not up against it with what, 50 to offer? The total cost investment by the parent club might be $210K over 5 years? But the NCAA route, while costing the club nothing, its really 3 years, b/c you really cannot count the 4th year as if a player finishes school, they often just wait the extra months in summer to become a UFA.
I like the MLB approach which was mentioned above. If you want to pursue an NCAA career, go for it, but in 4 years, you have to be drafted again to play. You do not get to choose where you want to play.
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1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said:
I was reflexively defending Greenway until today. Because it occurred to me: Greenway was brought in as a Granato guy. Ruff may not have much use for him?
Otoh, Greenway’s PK numbers were quite good, were they not?
Sabres PK stats above from Natural Stat Trick. Greenway had the best GA/60 rate than any Sabre with significant minutes. I expect McLeod and Beck to take the lion share of minutes but the question is who are the forwards slotted for 3 & 4. Last year it was Cozens and Tuch. If Greenway is not part of a trade than I would presume he gets third TOI leaving the 4 spot open. I am more concerned about the deployment of Defensemen. With Mules injury, Power took an excessive number of minutes and wasn’t very good. No new faces, so what’s the plan there? Clifton and Mule? Dahlin and Power. Hope Samuelsson stays healthy?
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What is the best guess of how the trade was formed? The Sabres are kicking tires for third line centers across the league and Edmonton says they need Savoie for McLeod. Adam’s says no and looks elsewhere, and makes his selection at the draft. After July 1st Edmonton signs Arvidsson, Skinner, Henrique and others so the Oilers were over the cap and needed to shed salary. At that point, doesn’t Adams have leverage? Wouldn’t the original asking price drop? So is the prospect Tullio what Adams wanted back as a sweetener? Or did he try to offer less (Rosen) straight up and it was denied. Then Adams knowing without a legit 3C (from Ruff and others here at SS) that he has to make a deal, so the prospect was all he could obtain to offset the difference between Rosen and Savoie. Or do I have it all wrong?
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Sabres opening Day line up 2023
Skinner-Thompson-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Olofsson
Greenway-Mittelstadt-Benson
Girgensons-Krebs-Okposo
Dahlin-Samuelsson
Power-Jokiharju
Clifton-E. Johnson
Could be as many as 6 new faces in the forward ranks. Maybe two on D. That’s meaningful turnover. Skinner and Mitts look better than their replacements, on paper. Maybe another move with Joki or another Defenseman.
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2 hours ago, dudacek said:
Just seems like business.
Malenstyn has been in the org less than a week, has had very little time to negotiate and has to protect his bargaining position.
Luukkonen has one of the best arb cases out there.
Just seems like it’s about getting a fair contract.
Plus one on this take. The Bruins had three arbitration cases last year. Including Frederic and Swayman, both key contributors. And while Swayman maybe was irked Boston came in so low, he performed last season and will earn a long term extension this offseason, as he did not file.
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18 minutes ago, Doohickie said:
So a cheaper Mitts?
If so,
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The bold is like catnip for some. Your triple question marks begs a response. 😉
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39 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:
I'm not quite sure how arbitration works but Joseph Woll got 3.66M then UPl should at least be 4.6M, he nearly doubled Woll in games played plus had better save % and goals against.
Beck Malenstyn made 762K AAV so what will he go up to 1M at most? Not terrible imo.
In addition to what GA said, Woll is signed for 2024/25 for a min salary. His $3.66M is an extension starting in 2025. So you could see that like an AAV of $2.9m over 4 years. The Swayman arbitration last summer is a good baseline. He asked for $4.5m, the Bruins offered $2m. They settled at $3.475M. I would expect UPL to be around there. And we should hope that UPL performs like Swayman did after arbitration.
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1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said:
I’m not saying that’s the case.
But when your favourite team’s GM — whose main credential before becoming the team’s GM was managing the owner’s hockey facility — is using familiar nicknames with a hometown signing and extolling the local junior hockey team …
It just seems so small-minded. So parochial.
A 13 year playoff drought will do that to a guy.
But isn’t that mindset larger than just Adams and Terry? Maybe more so than other GMs and owners but I recall a few administrations touting the Buffalo born players - Kaleta, Kennedy, and Foligno. Buffalo IS a small town and is parochial.
I think it’s possible this is a nice story AND could help add the grit that has been missing. This was a super low risk move with moderate reward. Maybe some marketing BS, but I think this was a Lindy decision as well. Adams had every chance to do this two years and did not pursue the player.I for one am thrilled that the ONLY Buffalo born player on this team is Gilbert. Not a Pat Kane fan whatsoever. Scoring and playoff experience notwithstanding this team needs an attitude change. I can’t wait to see Ruff bench one of his starting D men to play Gilbert when to the bells tolls. And he will answer.
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42 minutes ago, Derrico said:
The only positive spin I see is we traded a prospect that won’t be NHL ready for 3+ years (if at all) for a guy who should be able to step in and hopefully help PK and 4th line next season.
Maybe they could have got someone equivalent on July 1. The playoff drought and lack of interest in joining this franchise seems more obvious this offseason than in recent memory. Sabres have to overpay and it sucks. It needs to change. They need to start winning. Sickening we’re at this point.
Key word is maybe. Is it possible all their targets for the 4th line in UFA have already signed (like Joshua) or their agents have told Adams not interested? Not defending move at all, just asking if their options are extremely limited. If July 1st is fruitless, then we know the “Buffalo premium” has reached an all time high. Seeing the returns from the other trades is disheartening.
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2 hours ago, Pimlach said:
Yes but how much money do you want to spend on defensemen?
Exactly. A $7.5m AAV would put the Sabres blue line (only top 6 ) around $38.5M. Last year no team exceeded $34m for their top 7. Better spent elsewhere.
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1 hour ago, Flashsabre said:
His trade value for Cernak is extremely low. But then again, he slots him on third pair with Clifton. Dude played most minutes with Hedman. He’s not a 5/6. If you are going to acquire a stay at home RD with size and strength, might be good to match him with one of your three offensively minded LD. Not a smaller version of himself, who also plays on the Right.
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1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said:
Wow, Rick Dudley is there and holding Lord Stanley!!!Is that paint job by Just for Men or Earl Scheib? Let it go!
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49 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:
If they keep the pick they're not serious about winning or making the playoffs
Let me introduce you to a nice club in the OC.
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210th game for Florida in the last two seasons. Only one cat has played them all. Sam Reinhart. The Iron Horse of hockey.
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8 minutes ago, dudacek said:
The drop off from Ullmark to him is considerable IMO and that’s not a huge cap saving in return.
But I guess that’s only way they were going to get a 1st?
I’ll say pick 25 is about as much as legit starter ever seems to get these days though, so I guess the Bruins did alright on that level?
Ive been saying for a while those who think goalies are going to get top 10 picks just don’t pay attention to the market.
Doesn't this also exacerbate the TM trade for Robin Lehner, considering the pick, the depth of the draft, and the fact TM accepted a cap dump on top of the pick? The Sens paid a lower price, received a better goalie, in a weaker draft, and sent somewhat of a cap dump to Boston instead of accepting one back from them. Guess that's why Tim is still unemployed.
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We’ve had our local baseball team never leave the stadium they play in, let alone relocate and go from the California Angels, to the Anaheim Angels to the Los Angeles Angels (which is a joke). I know it’s not the same as others mentioned, but strange nonetheless.
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2 hours ago, French Collection said:
We got him, we got Matt Irwin!
Never not funny. Do you think Kevs GM/Exec pals text that to friends when busting balls on a UFA pickup?
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28 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:
If these players were dropped into the draft on Friday, they would go lower than where they were taken in their draft years.
While I’m no draft expert, Savoie is killing Junior. He is clearly the highest point per game player the WHL (regular season and playoffs). He is scoring over 2 PPG and about 24% higher than Catton, who is being discussed in top 8 this year. Rosen, probably not, based probably on strength of class. Is there any player drafted after Rose, outside Wyatt Johnson in ‘22 holding value? Hard to say unless you see them daily. None of them seem to be making enough hay to play in the NHL.
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7 hours ago, French Collection said:
Yeah, I don’t know about others, but my line in the sand is playoffs. If he can’t get there in his fifth year, come on man, you failed.
By the way, is there anyone who can ballpark how much playoff revenue TP has missed out on in 13 years?
The CBA calls for the home team to clear 65% of HRR for each game. A blurb below about the Rangers. I’ll defer to analytics on frequency of making the playoffs each year and games played but if you use 8/13 and an average of 5 games per year that equates to a ballpark guess of ~ $100M. If you assume more games played (like 7) and a slightly higher take per game ($3.5M) it would be ~$196M.
“The NHL is the most gate-driven of the four biggest U.S. sports league by far, as it lacks the large TV deals the others possess. Its playoff revenue model is like the NBA’s, making a Cup run extremely lucrative.
Teams crank up ticket prices every round, while the league keeps 35% of the gate—the NHL allowed teams to keep 100% of ticket revenue during the playoffs for the COVID-impacted 2020-21 season. The New York Rangers lost in the Eastern Conference Finals last year but hosted 10 home games and generated $50 million in revenue, including concessions and merchandise. Gross playoff ticket revenues topped $200 million last season in the NHL. For small-market NHL teams, a good playoff run can often be the difference between posting an operating profit versus a loss for the season.”
https://www.sportico.com/business/commerce/2023/nba-nhl-playoffs-windfall-unlike-nfl-1234719709/
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1 hour ago, Thorny said:
He should.
Probably shouldn’t have left yourself in a spot where one tough playoff cut off line means 5 straight years missing the playoffs
AND the cutoff this year was low?
zero sympathy. 5 years.
Lately you be
Always better for the reader when there is passion on both sides. Enjoying this thread.
*the Gene Wilder bio on Netflix was entertaining.
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Quintessential Kevyn in Full Frowning Face. A human emoji. The irony is that has become a look all too familiar after Sabre games. Do something.
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KBC Renovations Update
in The Aud Club
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Add the Anaheim Honda Center to your list. Built in 1993 for ~$123m. Unsure of the renovation costs since but the building is superior in most aspects and three years older. Two levels of luxury boxes.