Curt
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1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:
Hughes has elite skating and vision but he can get muscled off of pucks and pushed around.
My thinking is, he won’t get pushed around because they can’t catch him. That’s why I don’t worry about size much if the player has elite skating.
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4 minutes ago, Derrico said:
If we win a top 3 spot and have a new coach going into next season I can see myself believing again.
To me, it’s top-2 you really need to hope for. 3-10 has almost no consensus about who is better. We could the same player at 6-7-8 as at 3.
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48 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
I feel weird. I actually would rather draft 2nd or 3rd. I like Hughes but I don't love him. I can't pinpoint why and I am still getting info on him so maybe that will change. Kakko and Turcotte and even maybe Cozens are just more intriguing to me.
I think Kakko is pretty close, but not the others.
Hughes has elite skating. He will immediately be among the top 10(or something like that) skaters in the NHL. That counts for a lot. Combine that with great stick handling and great vision, and you get someone who can dominate the play.
I believe that he is going to be at least a PPG player in the NHL, with the upside to be even more. As a draft prospect, he is on par with Eichel/Matthews.
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Regarding Gronborg, I would also like to add the question:
When is the last time he coached in an actual league? It’s been a long while and there is no high level league experience.
That’s what concerns me the most. Can he keep a teams ear for more than a couple weeks at a time? Over an 82 game season? Multiple years of 82 game seasons? It’s a lot easier to put up with someone when you know that your time together will be short. More difficult when there is no end in sight.
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5 minutes ago, Pimlach said:
Are we talking to anyone else or is JBot so high on McClellan that he has the job if he wants it?
No word.
If you want to get all cynical conspiracy theory-ish, I’ve got one.
Theory: Botterill has contacted several candidates about the job, the rest have not become public. McLellan is one of them, but has also been negotiating with LA about possibly taking their job. McLellan’s camp leaked that he was in talks with Buffalo to the media in order to maybe light a fire under LA management to get a more favorable deal from them.
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1 minute ago, WildCard said:
Well, yeah. They finally went to a Cup
Haha, ok, true enough. Then a first round exit the next year.
He got them to back to back conference finals appearances.
Truth is, when Buffalo is a playoff team, then I’ll start fretting about whether the coach is “only” going to be able to get them to the conference finals! Right now, that’s not even on my radar. They need someone who is going to help mold this group into a playoff caliber team.
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2 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
Underachieved in San Jose with a solid roster.
If you want to call not winning a cup underachieving, then sure. His playoff results there were not perfect, but they had a good deal of success and has the team done any better since he left?
I consider the fact that he got the Oilers to the 2nd round of the playoffs a major accomplishment.
To me, he would be acceptable. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t suck.
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Just now, PerreaultForever said:
You want to add bad defense and inconsistent goaltending plus a few under performing veterans? The rosters are VERY similar in many ways.
Right! No one is going to “get it done” (win a cup?) with a roster like that. I don’t care how good of a coach they are.
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6 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
Ummm.........yes.
McLellan couldn't get it done with McDavid and Draisaitl on his roster, how's he going to fare with Jack and Sam? He is over rated. No thanks. Rumors have him going to L.A. anyway.
I think we all know that teams are more than just a couple players.
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22 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:
No, but I do think he'd need to have a team smart enough to understand his concepts... that wouldnt go well with half this team.
What type of innovative concepts does he use that only Swedes can understand?
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4 minutes ago, klos1963 said:
But didn't Pegula say no salary cap on coaches too? All we need is an owner with deep pockets...
If he doesn’t want to come here, then it might not matter if you offer $5M instead of $4M.
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I’m fine if it’s McLellan. Experienced. History of success. He even got Edmonton into the 2nd round of the playoffs.
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1 minute ago, LTS said:
I'm not sure what to think of McLellan. He's had success. I don't think you can pin the debacle of Edmonton on him as their GM situation is the biggest joke.
Clearly Hitchcock was not able to fix what was wrong in Edmonton either.
He had a pretty good run with the Sharks. He had the stones to pull the 'C' from Jumbo Joe.
He got the Oilers into the playoffs, so he must be pretty good.
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4 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said:
“To me, the only challenge that would be left is the National Hockey League, to be perfectly honest,” said Grönborg. “I’ve kind of done all that stuff and coached some of the best players in the world. Now I’m interested to have my ideas, to [implement] them over a period of time and do them overseas, and kind of challenging the coaching community over in the NHL.”
“When it comes to North American coaching, generally speaking, a coach comes to coach vs. just being a trainer, as we call it in Sweden [coach is translated as tränare in Swedish]. Go out and train the team,” said Grönborg. “Here it’s actually a coach and kind of plan how we utilize the players and give them job descriptions and whatnot. There’s different tweaks in the game situations instead of just kind of rotating four lines, which was very common back in Sweden.”
“You’d rotate four lines until there was 10 minutes left and then go down to three lines and then you go down to two lines the last two minutes. …In Sweden, it was very common to have four very even lines.”
He is a huge proponent of developing players and has seen success at a national level. A large part of the strength of the U-18, I-20 and National team for Sweden comes from Grönborg. He has helped develop a large number of NHL talents.
They have won back to back golds at the world championship under Grönborg. Their U20 team has won two silver medals under him in three years and the U18 also won two silver medals in three years under Grönborg.
Grönborg could bring something new and potentially gamebreaking to the Sabres and the NHL.
I’m not saying that you are wrong, but what is it that could be new and game breaking?
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29 minutes ago, RVJ said:
Draft players that are strong on the puck, loves to check and goes to the front of the net.
But who is the coach?
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7 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said:
Interesting that Botterill said the decision to fire Housley was totally his and he contacted Pegula this morning to tell him.
That's not a good look for Pegula IMO; it suggests he wasn't aware he had a coaching problem.
And that jibes with his comments made recently at the NFL meetings in support of Housley.
5 minutes ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:I disagree entirely. It's a completely good look in that it implies that he is doing what he is supposed to be doing, writing checks and watching the game NOT running the hockey ops.
I’m with LGBL on this one. It really shouldn’t be Pegula’s task to make decisions on hockey coaches. He should be kept in the loop and give his opinion, but he/they need to trust Botterill to do the job they hired him for. If that’s what is happening, then that is a great look as far as I’m concerned.
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21 minutes ago, Ducky said:
McLellan, Tippett or Ralph Kruger?
Dark horse...Hawerchuk?
Kruger is an interesting guy, but he hasn’t had any involvement in hockey in like 6 years. He is on the board of directors of an EPL football team. Would he even be interested?
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6 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said:
We really don't, though. The only young players we had in critical positions were Dahlin and Mittelstadt.
We have some veterans but we are going to be incorporating youth into key positions over the next couple years. Dahlin, Mittelstadt, Thompson, Ullmark, Rodrigues, Pilut, Nylander, Olofsson, Borgen, Smith. All those guys have played in the NHL but have no more than one full season of experience and will be asked to fill even bigger roles going forward. Then there will also be Asplund, the 2019 1st and others after that.
The team is actually going to get younger moving forward.
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1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
History shows that coaches who win Cups have some NHL HC experience on one or two previous jobs, often lead those teams into the playoffs, but ultimately failed. Disco Dan is the exception here.
However, history also shows that coaches who win Cups never win another with a different franchise, except Bowman.
Find me a coach that fits that description and I’ll be interested. Therefore no Quennenville
Not an endorsement, but John Stevens also fits your criteria perfectly.
EDIT: Jack Capuano, Guy Boucher, Dave Tippett, Mike Yeo also
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1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
Boudreau, Vigneault and McLellan all fit, except Boudreau and Vigneault have failed at 3 previous job. Nelson should be an NHL chance, but as he has never coached in the NHL, he doesn't fit the description.
Nelson coached Edmonton for half a season, so a little NHL experience.
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23 minutes ago, Eleven said:
Please, no.His body of work is telling. Not until he had an all-star team was he successful.
Quennville previously made the playoffs and won playoff rounds with Colorado and St. Louis. What’s your definition of success?
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8 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
History shows that coaches who win Cups have some NHL HC experience on one or two previous jobs, often lead those teams into the playoffs, but ultimately failed. Disco Dan is the exception here.
However, history also shows that coaches who win Cups never win another with a different franchise, except Bowman.
Find me a coach that fits that description and I’ll be interested. Therefore no Quennenville
Bruce Boudreau, Alain Vigneault, Todd McLellan, Todd Nelson. I’m sure there are more.
31 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said:Rikard Grönborg.
I dont want him because he has never ever coached a high level team in any league. He only coaches in short tournaments.
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17 minutes ago, WildCard said:
Is he the guy that tried to neuter Ovechkin though? I feel like he essentially plays a very rigid defensive system, that's why he can win anywhere. Basically a poor man's Hitch
Toronto will let us have him for free in two weeks
List of his teams’ league rankings in goals for. He was the coach of Washington way back when the knock was that they played no defense(Ovi, Semin, Green)
Wild: 28th, 11th, 2nd
Ducks: 18th, 10th, 2nd, 7th
Caps: 19th, 1st, 3rd, 8th
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1 minute ago, WildCard said:
Is Boudreau actually a good coach?
I think so.
Before this season he made the playoffs 19 years in row, when he was the head coach of a team for the full season. 1 in ECHL(championship), 8 in AHL (1 championship, another finals appearance), and 10 in the NHL. Not all those teams were great either.
I feel supremely confident that Boudreau is at least very competent, if not excellent.
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I don’t disagree, but that is also probably the easiest area for a player to improve.