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1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said:
I tend to agree that the Bills will ultimately need to bring in a guru of some kind to get Allen under control and help him be the player he can be. Daboll and his team did a very good job with that. Dorsey was a part of that team, but, as the OC, he does not seem to have sufficient control over Allen.
Agreed.
I was texting with a group of friends -- only 1 of them a Bills fan -- and asked to whom Allen best compares as an NFL QB.
I said Favre, maybe.
Then someone else chimed in: Dude. Jim Kelly.
And I was like oof.
I've always thought Favre was the best comparison for Allen. High energy, throw caution to the wind, reckless at times, very high risk, high reward. One thing you have to remember about QBs like they are....they don't have just 'bad games' or 'bad months'. They have great years and bad YEARS.
Look at Favre's career:
-Favre won the MVP in 95, throwing almost 40 td's (38 actually) and 13 ints. 0.2 points away from a 100 QB rating. He won the MVP next year in 96 with 39 passing tds.
-3 and 4 years later he was bad, (1998 and 99) he had back to back seasons with over 20 ints in each, with one season with a QB rating in the 70's.
-2 seasons later in 2001, he is back to being great, almost 4000 yards, 32 tds, only 15 ints, and a 94+ qb rating.
-Then in 2003-2005 he was really bad, he threw 67 ints over 3 seasons. In 2005 and 2006, he threw a total of 38 tds and 47 ints over those 2 seasons. In 2005, his qb rating was 70.9.
-Then he came back to being great in 2007-2009 to throw for over 4000 yards in 2 of those 3 seasons. In 2009, a 107.2 qb rating, with 33 td and only 7 ints.
When you have a QB that takes chances, and after a few years it appears he isn't going to change...odds are he won't change. Again, forget about a good game followed by a bad game, or a good month followed by a bad one. You may get a good year or two (MVP caliber) followed by a year or two where he looks like he is on the way out of the league, only to get back to close to MVP form a year or two later again.
There may be no way to 'fix' Allen, now way to 'reign him in'. No guru to change his style. He just may be what he is...and his career might be higher highs and lower lows... more than many of us want.
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On 9/12/2023 at 10:01 AM, Goldseatsaud said:
The offense has no rhythm. McDermott has to reign in 17. Allen has been in the league for six years and is making the same bad throws
Its worse than that. For most of the 2021 season (ESPECIALLY the 2nd half) and the first half of last season, he cut down on those bad throws quite a bit. Its not that he is just making the 'same bad throws' as always, he actually has regressed from the progress he has made.
One thing I have noticed (at least my opinion) that has changed is the lack of medium-length throws. The throws that travel 12-225 years beyond the line of scrimmage. I don't have any stats to support this, but compared to last season and the season before, it seems like those throws are lacking. Now there are a lot more under 10 years passes or simply chuck it downfield as far as you can. The medium length passing game seems to be a lot smaller part of this offense. (either its not there at all, or it is just a lot less successful than it was).
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10 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:
I'd just make all 1st rounders have a year shorter waiting time.
How about all drafted players have one year shorter? Probably only matters with first rounders, but even if you made all drafted players have a year shorter waiting time, it is a small fraction of all players in the chl.
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One similarity to the 05-06 campaing:
The previous season the Sabres (of course) did not make the playoffs, but had a young team. 3 of the top 5 teams in the league the season played previously were Boston, Tampa, and Toronto. Buffalo would pass them, as they either had major changes to their rosters and/or an aging team.
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Allen played very poorly. It is just one game. My belief all along was he was hurt the 2nd half of last year and it impacted his play, and once he starts playing 'not hurt' this year he would go right back to being a top-5 MVP candidate. But, he made numerous bad decisions. It wasn't just the INTs but he often threw the ball into coverage that a ball should NEVER be thrown into (2 or 3 defenders shadowing his target), while other players were open. He passed up on running or taking the 'almost sure' first down for something bigger that never came to be.
He had a very bad game, much worse than I thought. Lets hope this was a one week thing.
As for the rest of the team, nothing is really different to me. The OL was "OK" but not great/good. The defensive backfield looks old and slow. The pash rush was improved. Again, not much to take from just one game. Allen needs to get a lot better.
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3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
Now to bolded. This is uncalled for and absurd. I wrote an entire post about why I thought the points you were using wouldn't work, the age thing was but 1 of them.
I gave your point of view equal weight and I disagree with it. I am not going to apologize to you if you literally cannot handle a different viewpoint such as Power is not worth 10% more than Sanderson at this moment in time (9/11/2023).
Which one of us is right? No idea, I think I am but time will tell and I could very well be wrong. If Power is not signed before the season begins, all of this is moot anyways.
Whatever. Learn to not always need to get the last word in to prove your point. Sometimes I let things go, but not when you are being such ar Hard *** about this.
3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:This is always the case when I point out flaws in someone's arguments. Personal attacks and the typical "settle down" nonsense. IMPO Your post was incorrect, I pointed that out and why I thought other subjective parts of your post would not be used. If you don't like it block me and be done with it. Yes Owen Power was 19 for about 15 NHL games before he turned 20. Idk how an agent uses that to get anywhere? It certainly doesn't equate to 10% more per year on the contract. I'll be sure to write "in my opinion" more often so you and others know I am giving my opinion.
The FACT you have narrowed in on the age and ignored all the other reasons I think what you are saying is wrong is interesting. Basically this above post reads like projection. I would recommend you loosen up, settle down a little bit, stop nitpicking and looking at the bigger post overall.
Let's do this then.
Power is younger. Sure but by not even 1 year (4 months), idk how an agent can leverage that much, other than claiming I guess that Power will be better long term than Sanderson cuz he showed it earlier? I think that is a tough sell from an agent for 2 guys that are 4 months apart in age (that's right your argument about playing in the NHL younger is based on 4 months of age difference).
+/- could be used but you have a tough sell of it when Adams and company can point to the Sabres just outscoring Ottawa by buckets. Ottawa also had a negative goal differential so again I think in the scheme of selling that Power deserves 10% more this is a tough sell to the Sabres. Rasmus Dahlin was a -36 under Krueger for example but it wasn't because of Dahlin as much as the team he was on and the coaching he had.
Okay so then we have point totals, Sanderson had 32 and Power 35. Power played 2 more games so that argument blows up there. Well if Sanderson had played 2 more games he would have gotten the same amount would be any counter you want to use in all likelihood. TOI, if I were using that I would say that Sanderson is better than Power because he produced more in less TOI. TOI can basically inverted to show that Sanderson did more with less TOI just as much as it can show that Power got more and played more. I think you get a wash out there.
So, how does Owen Power's agent go to Adams and say Power is worth 9mil for his 35pts when Dahlin is getting somewhere between 10-10.5 for his 73pts? That is the next biggest hurdle and where this allll falls apart IMO. Dahlin, the biggest thing Buffalo has that Ottawa does not.
My point or opinion if you will is that your arguments for why Sanderson is worth 10% less than Owen Power is weak and as the GM of the Sabres, I would push back on all those points.
On top of that Adams has leverage that Ottawa did not. Sanderson's agent could say "fine if you don't value my client we take bridges until we reach UFA or you trade us" and Ottawa has to give a bit, they don't have another Sanderson. What happens if Power's agent were to play that same card (same agent I think)? Hey Adams, if you don't give us 9mil for Power we walk! Adams, well I have Rasmus Dahlin so call me when you walk to wherever you are going and we will talk again. There is just less leverage and on top of that Sanderson is from Montana and Power is from Southern Ontario. Just saying that Power might be inclined to "settle" for 8mil when he gets to guarantee he plays about an hour from his family for the next decade.
Personally if I were Owen Power, I would take a 2yr bridge and then get paid big when it ends and the cap is up and I am a 50pt all around defender.
You really need to get a new hobby if the reply I gave you caused this lengthy of a reply. I can't and wont even read all of that. I made my point, don't try so hard to always be right.
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13 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
Owen Power never played in the NHL at 18. That's straight up bs. His agent has almost 0 leverage especially with Dahlin in Buffalo. Think about it, the agent ways Power deserves 9 mill for 35pts when Dahlin gets 10.5 for 73? And on top of that the Sabres have more leverage than Ottawa because we have Dahlin.
Power is from southern Ontario and is probably very happy his family gets to see him. Being a 1st versus a 5th overall pick is almost negligible in its importance 3 years after your draft. +/- needs to die.
Power if he signs an 8 yr deal is going to get maybe 8.25 because that's about all being taken 4 picks earlier and being a year younger is probably worth. It's not going to be 10% nor should it. Also, Ottawa overpaid.
Owen Power never played in the NHL at 18 as you wrote. That's not true and it's factually inaccurate.
Rasmus Dahlin did. Also had 73pts. Hard to argue that Dahlin is only worth 1.5 million more than Power.
You are really reaching to split hairs to prove your right. Aren't you? Settle down a little bit. Stop making enemies by nitpicking on tiny facts and look at the big post overall. If he didn't play it 18... My error but the point still stands he played at a younger age than Sanderson and if he wasn't 18 he was 19. I just guess some people like you don't like being responded to with a different point of view than your own and you will search for a technicality to call someone else out on. Loosen up. It does make talking to other people and engaging in the message forums a bit more fun if everything is in a confrontation. At
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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:
This isn't even factually accurate.
Power isn't getting over 9 million.
What are you talking about. I was replying to your post saying how can Power ask for $9m? Did you even read your own post I was replying too? Of course it is not factually accurate. You asked how he could ask for $9m, and I was giving the case as to how he could ask for more than Sanderson.
Follow the chain of the conversation for context people, especially when it is reply to your own post.
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On 9/6/2023 at 10:36 PM, LGR4GM said:
How can Power ask for 9 when he's basically Sanderson at this point?
Also pay the consequences? You're talking about a GM that pays Tage and Cozens 14 million a year, combined.
I would at this point bridge Power rather than pay him over $9m at this point.
But he can justify a bit more. He's not Sanderson, he is slightly better in a few ways:
-Sanderson 5th overall pick, Power 1st overall pick. Slight advantage Power
-Sanderson started his NHL career at age 20, Power was good enough to start at 18. Slight advantage Power
-First full season for each last year, Sanderson 4g, 28a, -6. Power 4g, 31a +10. Slight advantage Power.
-First full season, Power given/trusted with about 2 more minutes of Ice time per game. Advantage Power.
Maybe those things will or won't matter long term for who is better, but the metrics are what we have now, and all of them are slightly in Favor of Power and his agent will be using them all. If I was Power/his agent, I know I would think based on the above I deserve about 10% more than Sanderson.
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If they get Dahlin locked up long term, I'd be 'open' to a bridge deal with Power. That doesn't mean I'd PREFER a bridge deal.....normally I hate bridge deals. But, with Cozens, Thompson, and Dahlin locked up long term I think you have some flexibilty where you can Bridge Power and it won't hurt you as much in the future.
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On 9/7/2023 at 12:58 PM, SwampD said:
People always say this as a pejorative (not sure if you are), but is that really a bad thing and isn't that one of the reasons we like it? I know I do. I hope it's always a boutique sport,... at least then I can afford the tickets.
Good point.
One of the reasons I have soured a bit on the NFL and the Bills is just the oversaturation. ESPN saying more and more controversial things just to get viewers/interaction/clicks. Social media being full of non stop, often times non-sensical talk about it. The hype, etc. It gets to be too much for me at times. When a sport gets that big (you can also see it a bit in F1 racing and Soccer, even the NBA a bit), it kinda turns me off.
I like the NHL in part because there is a little of that, but when you watch a game you can just watch the game and not get hit over the head with all the extra stuff the 'bigger sports' give you.
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When he's ready to come back in January, he practices with the Sabres for a week or two, then goes to Rochester to play for 2 weeks to get re-acclimated to the speed of the game.
He comes back to Buffalo in late Jan/ early Feb, starts out very slowly, but is almost back up to speed by the end of the year.
Plays 30 games, 7-10 goals, 15 assists. Better play at the end of the year then when he first comes back.
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If he's healthy, similar production as last year. 10 goals, 30 points. 4th liner that gets a day off occasionally (once or twice per month), and if the rest of the team gets hammered with injuries, he can still function on a 2nd Power play unit (not ideal but he wouldn't be out of place)
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At the moment, I see Clifton as a pretty good 5/6 guy, and an acceptable 2nd pair guy. Someone who can thrive on 14-16 minutes per game. I HOPE he is more than that, if only slightly so. I want to see him be a guy that you can trust at 20 minutes per game.
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20 hours ago, LTS said:
Overall Spectrum appears to be following through with the line in the sand they alluded to a few years ago. Spectrum has been preparing to not offer television services and instead focus on delivering Internet only. ESPN/Disney are preparing for the inevitable shift as well. The NFL will push Disney to air its games because it is contractually obligated to do so. They will not allow Disney to use a carriage agreement as an excuse. This is what I suspect is causing the alternate broadcast channels and methods to be deployed.
I am very happy Spectrum is taking this stance. I sincerely hope they stick to their plan and don't cave. The market needs a shake up and this certainly has all the potential to do it.
I don't like missing the college football games (I watch some, but not a lot) and I do not like missing the F1 race last week, but putting emotion of the moment aside, I agree with you.
We have been in this grey area the last few years of what is on streaming, what requires a cable package..what is changing year to year..etc. If they got to the point where Spectrum did not carry sports, but I could get my basic cable programming from them for an affordable price AND then pick and choose what streaming I want for sports, I'm all for that. The problem right now is some live sports still aren't streaming. The industry needs to decide where it is going and then just get there.
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5 hours ago, LabattBlue said:
Spectrum & Disney both suck. 🖕🏻
I hated missing my favorite F1 race of the year last weekend from Monza.
We aren't there yet, but maybe this is what gets us to a cable tv package with no sports for those that don't want it...and streaming for just about any sport you want. Of course, you need to get ALL the live stuff to streaming (not there yet), and without the entire cable customer base to support the sports, those sports streaming packages may be more expensive overall (people who want sports pay MORE than now, those who don't pay a bit less than they do now)
here is an article that discusses this: www.yahoo.com/entertainment/charter-ceo-chris-winfrey-reports-165235682.html
Some highlights:
Charter CEO Chris Winfrey indicated that little progress has been made in the week-long carriage fight with Disney and said a leaner, ESPN-free TV bundle “could stick” with price-sensitive Spectrum customers.
Winfrey reinforced his conviction that Charter is committed to pursuing a permanent shift away from the traditional cable TV business if a Disney renewal is not reached.
In recent times, Charter’s management team viewed the company’s broadband business as a supplement to its video offering, Winfrey said. Now, “it’s on the verge of flipping,” with the video side “becoming a liability.”
Ultimately, in Winfrey’s view, “it’s going to be Disney that decides” the outcome. The “alternative world” without ESPN and other Disney content would yield “a smaller base of customers” but a more loyal one, Winfrey said.
On a broader level, the cable industry veteran acknowledged, a smaller bundle would represent a significant milestone. “I don’t think it’s good for the entire video ecosystem,” he said of a Disney-free Spectrum offering.
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25 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Norris voting doesn't tell us anything.
It does when it is a proxy for the general view who are the best D-men in the league. If now what are the metrics we can use? Where does Dahlin rank among the top D-men in the league?
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10 minutes ago, Radar said:
Defensemen of Dahlin qualities are much harder to find than forwards of Thompson's quality and that's not meant to demean anyone.
But is it? I mean enough for a 40% increase in salary?
A forward with Thompsons quality....Thompson's value to this team is in terms of goal scoring. I went to NHL.com and looked at scoring per 60. Last year Thompson was 10th in the league. Over the past 2 seasons he is 5th in the league. Goals per game played? He's 11th. And that is with him playing injured for a good part of the last quarter of the season. If he is healthy and progresses even a tiny little bit, he can/should be in the top 10, if not top 5 in scoring in the league next year.
D-men. Scoring isn't as important to a D-men as a forward, so I wasn't sure what metric to use so I just looked at Norris voting. Dahlin finished 8th last year. The previous year he was out of the top 15.
Now personally, I think Dahlin is more important overall to the team than Thompson, but I think it is close. But as a forward/center/goal scorer Thompson right now probably ranks in the top 10 in the league (or very close to it) and an argument can be made Dahlin is in the same area when you rank D-men. AND the Top forwards in the league make more than the top D-men do.
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3 hours ago, triumph_communes said:
One plays 30 minutes a night. The others play 18 max.
Don't exaggerate to make your point. Dahlin averaged just over 25 minutes per game, in the NHL, that is WORLD away from 30 minutes.
2nd, it just doesn't really matter. top D-men almost ALWAYS play more minutes than the top forwards, that is the nature of the position. The best D-men in the league play. Karlsson, Dahlin, Makar, Doughty, Josi, Fox...all averaged about 25 minutes per game. McDavid, McKinnon, Draisatl, Pastrnak, Robertson, Hughes, Matthews...averaged between 18-22 minutes per game. Top forwards, on average DO average 20% less ice time, but the top forwards around the league do NOT get paid that much less (or less at all) than the top D-men.
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51 minutes ago, K-9 said:
I hope that fence you’re sitting on doesn’t have any pointy pickets. 😂
Exactly my point. In the other 'expection' threads I usually have a pretty strong opinion of most players. This one is different.
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14 minutes ago, MattPie said:
I was almost anticipating when someone would make this comment grabbing the low hanging fruit...
Yes, its true you are on the Sabres fan site. But many of us contribute both here and at 2 bills drive. The commentary of people who like the Sabres over the Bills that are fans of both teams is the point of this thread, not just 'counting votes' of Bills vs Sabres.
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Sabres.
Years ago it would have been the Bills. Up until about 5 years ago it would have been the Bills. As a kid, I watched every minute of every game I could without exception. I had Bills Season tickets from the time I was 9 until I was in my mid 20's. But just in the past 2-3 years the Bills, and the NFL, just don't have the same draw to me.
I've gotten bored with Football. There is very little in a game I can see that I haven't seen before. The names are different, but the action is similar, and I'm TIRED of the media coverage with the 'talking heads' throwing junk out there just to get a reaction, and the really dumb viewpoints you can't get away from coming from some media and the fans. You get that in Hockey, but not as much.
I'll follow the Bills and NFL, I'll put the game on but if there is something else to do (Wife wants to go see a movie, there is an interesting Nascar race on, or maybe family is visiting), now the NFL/Bills will take a backseat to that. With the Sabres, my interest is pretty much the same now as it was when I was a kid. Maybe SLIGHTLY less now than in the past, but not that much less. On a scale of 0-100 measuring my 'fandom', When I was young it was a 95 for the Bills, an 80 for the Sabres. Now, Its closer to a 50 for the Bills/NFL, still probably a 70-75 for the Sabres.
The NHL is more interesting to me in terms of the options you have to build your team. You can challenge for regular season dominance and/or a Cup run many ways. A veteran team (St. Louis of a few years ago is an example). A team with a handful of top end stars (Toronto?). A team with multiple top overall picks (Pittsburgh in the past decade). A team with few top overall picks (Boston). You can be carried to the cup in large part by D-man (Makar, Hedman), a great/hot goalie (Vasilevsky), or a top scoring superstar (Ovi, Kane, Crosby, Malkin).
In the NFL, its not a GUARANTEE, but its all about the QB. Get a great QB and you are 3/4 of the way to being a top contender. The previous Superbowl winners? Mahomes, Stafford, Brady, Mahomes, Brady, Brady, Manning, Brady, R Wilson, and Nick Foles. (3 league MVPs, a first overall pick, Russell Wilson (who was GREAT for a few years) and Foles. There seems to be more variety in building a team in the NHL and that is more fun for me as a fan also.
Again, short answer...Sabres.
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14 hours ago, shrader said:
Is ESPN+ an option in the short term?
The game is not on ESPN+ though is it?
There is so much talk about this that my impression is...if you have spectrum even ESPN+ won't get you the game. You'd have to go the over-the-air antenna route (unless you want to do something like HULU Live TV, Fubo, Youtube TV or one of those other pricy options)?
The antenna option can still be a problem for many of us. Buffalo and the immediate suburbs no problem, but if you live in Niagara or western Orleans county (Lewiston, Youngstown, Wilson, Newfane, Lyndonville,) you may or may not get the over-the-air signal. If you live in a very dense neighborhood or have your TV in a bad part of the house (facing the wrong direction, basement, etc) some in Niagara Falls, Albion, Medina may also have problems with an Antenna.
To my knowledge, the ABC signals come either from the OTHER side of the Rochester Airport, or from the Boston Hills/Colden area in the southtowns.
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I'm commenting here because I try to comment on all of these threads.
Hope? A legit top 20 goalie this year.
Expectations? I have ZERO idea. I wouldn't be surprised if he struggles and has to go the the AHL, just the same as I wouldn't be surprised if he is a top 10 guy in the league. I have no idea at all with him.
Rasmus close to extension at $10M per
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Would I want a player like Dahlin tied up for 8 instead of 5? Sure do, especially for a D-man where their career peak years go a bit longer. Remember that he is under contract for another year and this extension would start a year from now...so if he signs for 5 years, you have him here for 6 more from the current time. That is a LOT of hockey.