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25 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
He hasn't been good in the NHL in years for 1. And before ANYONE quotes the Devils record, that was Burnette's doing and the proof is that the guy who made Florida the president trophy team, made Devils a playoffs team, and made the Predators a playoff team in back to back to back years. Every team he left dropped down after he left. Florida appears to have recovered and replaced him and deserves credit.
I'll quote the Devils record with Ruff. 128-125-28.
Granato 122-125-27.
As you rightly point out, the only good season was with Brunette behind the bench with him. Lindy is most assuredly not the answer.
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5 hours ago, #freejame said:
Nothing meaning anything until it means something.
Well.. he could have 0G.. so it means something.
Relative to what you are looking for perhaps not.. but would you feel better he had shown no success? It's just there for perspective.
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All good stuff. I'd be curious how those stats break down against teams in the top 50% of the league versus the bottom 50%. Is it a situation where against lower quality opponents they were able to play better defensively and still score or was it even or worse?
The macro level look certainly indicates what we all thought we saw.
All of that aside.. I still saw too many opponents able to drive our net while not enough Sabres doing the same. Having an improved defense only matters if it translates into winning and it did not. Now, if they can continue to improve and find the scoring ability again then fantastic. We'll be able to look back and say this season was where they figured out defense. If it doesn't.. then it didn't matter at all.
Good stuff by the way. It should be long. That's research.
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At least after tonight the official off-season starts and as such the debate over management changes can really take hold. We knew they wouldn't change in season...
But for tonight.. they can enjoy one last game. Not sure I will bother.
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One of my dogs has been officially diagnosed with a tumor... This dog does not get upset about how the Sabres play, so she means a lot to me. (The other dog, her sister, also does not get upset, but this isn't about her.)
This sucks. But what sucks more is just how impersonal the vet has been about this whole situation. They've been a good vet but in the past year or two their quality of service has declined greatly. This will be our last time ever dealing with them. Not only them, but they needed an ultrasound done but the "traveling" doc who does them is only there on Thursdays and we're not allowed to be in the waiting room even while the ultrasound occurs? Damn right I asked for an image from the ultrasound before I pay that bill.
Oddly enough, had the same experience with our dental practice. They'd been great but the past two years they've seen massive turnover and every visit feels impersonal. Then, they try to sell you snake oil. Like some new owner took over and decided that trying to sell BS services and pushing unnecessary treatments is a great way to improve revenue while also treating customers like garbage.
Sure sign I am getting too old at this point.
But... I really want my dog to be better. Nothing else matters... not right now.
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5 hours ago, shrader said:
And an American kid is pretty likely to be playing baseball before starting hockey… or any other sport for that matter. So then you pick up a hockey stick and just have to move one hand slightly. The Canadian kid is probably starting out with hockey before anything. The Europeans? I really don’t know, but I’m thinking it’s a safe bet that there isn’t much baseball influence there.
Certainly..
2 hours ago, SwampD said:Batting right makes sense to me, as well as golfing right because the dominant hand is doing fine adjustments in both cases.
As far as hockey shots (it’s so nice out, I just grabbed a stick to try it to make sure I wasn’t talkin out my azz), the lower hand on a wrister is really just the fulcrum moving forward. The power comes from the top hand snapping back quickly. With a slap shot, both hands kinda work together in the same direction, more like baseball.
Makes me think it’s a style think almost. I’d rather have great sneaky wrister than a huge slapper. Way more opportunity to use it.
I just got off the ice last night.. but I did not pay attention to why I was shooting a certain way. I have to analyze it more.
2 hours ago, ska-T Chitown said:I am surprised none of the "still playing at a high level" folks have chimed in. I grew up slapping a tennis ball around in my driveway in some hand-me-down old school roller skates, so how I learned is very irrelevant (but follows the baseball analogy closely).
I asked a couple of guys this morning at rat (shinny) who had played some college puck - they emphasized the exact opposite of a lot of the thinking I am seeing here - dominant hand on top allows for better stick handling and puck control. While stick handling, your bottom hand is supposed to be fairly open and loose, all the rotation of the stick (and thus the blade) comes from you top hand. Naturally, if you want to emphasize stick handling and puck control in your development programs, you would encourage the kids to play dominant hand at the top of the stick.
Since the world is roughly 90% righties and he NHL is only 70% lefties, there is obviously a fair amount of players who did not follow the 'current wisdom'. 🤷♀️
Or maybe that 20% difference are really left handed people.. they just don't know it? Perhaps I am left handed. Hmmmm.. I use my right hand for everything though..
I trust what you (they) are saying. Now I am going to be in the driveway tonight shooting pucks for awhile.
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On 4/6/2024 at 3:43 PM, Porous Five Hole said:
Adjusted for age, eras, longevity and games missed, Ovie is still the best. It sucks that Bossy & Mario didn’t have longer careers.
I couldn't even imagine Mario in today's NHL. I think he's be destroying this league. He was able to do so much in the the clutching and grabbing era. I'd love to see him in this era when he could skate more freely.
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On 4/6/2024 at 12:45 PM, SwampD said:
I think I feel the exact opposite is true.😂
I think the type of shot matters as well.
I'm becoming way too engrossed in this subject and want to know more now.
20 hours ago, Big Guava said:I would bet if a right handed kid wasn't given any instructions and just told to go shoot a puck most of them would shoot "left handed" because it feels more natural.
IMO, right handed people shoot "right handed" because they are taught that is the "correct" way, not because it feels normal.
I dunno.. as I said I grew up using any street hockey stick available and was shooting both left and right handed.. eventually ended up shooting right handed overall. No one taught me anything.. it just felt normal.
But then again, I did play baseball and I hit right handed.. although once again I don't think anyone said I needed to hit that way, just that's what I did. At a young age I had a big plastic bat and I swung it right handed.
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It's interesting. Growing up I could use a left or right stick in street hockey. Really no difference. I eventually settled into right handed. Perhaps because I played baseball and also swung that way? No idea.
However, as I see it, the top hand is a pivot hand and the precision of where a stick goes is done with the bottom hand. I can swing a stick one handed all day long either either hand, but if I want control, the bottom hand is where it's at.
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20 hours ago, Weave said:
Frustratingly high risk for a fanbase that has sat on the sidlines in April-May for 13 seasons.
Regarding the goalie situation AND the implied coaching situation.
Yeah.. but my plan is to be at my job next year too, until someone decides that I won't be.
In regards to hockey I just think that "Today" this is the plan. "Tomorrow" anything could be the plan. Even if they weren't going to go forward with UPL and Levi there's no way they are going to say it publicly.
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14 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
No, nothing disparaging about women in that at all. If you like women's hockey that's great, but the point was it's a different and gentler game and that's how the Sabres play. We don't finish our checks, we don't initiate contact, we don't battle for pucks hard in the corners or the net front. It is like women's hockey. It's all similar to hockey, and there's still lots of skill, but it's a different game entirely.
Think about how we play compared to teams that are winning. Consider the differences and then get back to me with a discussion rather than trying to spin this into a false judgement of me.
Do a search for PWHL Physicality. There's nothing to discuss with such an obtuse opinion. You can insult the team without disparaging the women's game. Well, it's possible to do so, I'm not sure you are actually able to do it.
I'm done here.
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1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:
I'm starting to think that Granato learned all his hockey from watching Cammi play because this team plays like a girls team. A junior league girls team.
Straight up a disparaging comment against women. I can go watch a PWHL game and see players going all out. Just because they aren't 6'3 215lbs and banging doesn't mean they aren't giving their 100%.
Stick to comparing this team to the rest of the NHL.
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1 minute ago, PASabreFan said:
By?
Pretty much everyone? Certainly the Leafs tonight.. but it's been one giant ***** show since he took over.
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It's only appropriate that a team's owner whose initials are TP gets ***** on so much.
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28 minutes ago, Goldseatsaud said:
Adams is gonna spew that the Sabres are the youngest team and yes we have to get better so run out and get your 2024-25 seasons. We have a state of the art scoreboard
Adams can say it.. and pretty much anything he says other than "the team failed", "the coaching staff failed", and "I failed" should result in this quote being repeated back to him:
Quote“When I think about playoffs, our expectation of course is there but, honestly, our expectation is to win the Stanley Cup,” Adams said. “I think our window’s open right now and our goal is to be giving ourselves a chance every single year.”
September 21, 2023.
He followed it up with everything the team needed to do.. but the bottom line was that the whole organization needed to do it.
Quote“To win the Stanley Cup you have to win four rounds in the playoffs,” Adams explained. “To win four rounds in the playoffs, you have to make the playoffs. To make the playoffs, you have to win a lot of hockey games. To win a lot of hockey games during the season, you have to be a consistent team, a resilient team, a team that is able to handle adversity, highs and lows, matures. Those are the things that add up.”
It didn't happen.. and the GM gets the players and the coach prepares them. By their own measured goal, they failed their stated intent.
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1 hour ago, #freejame said:
You’re wrong about this. Lemme guess Blood Sport is trash too? Commando? Where does it end?
Blood Sport is so bad
So bad that every time it's on I leave it on and watch the rest of it. "Okay USA!"
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20 hours ago, Hank said:
This is true, to a point, his contribution to the team is so much more than just points. I don't believe Nashville is a playoff team without him.
I believe this. For what it's worth I don't think ROR is a bad player, he's a good player and will benefit a team. However, he's also demonstrated that he needs other names around him and the spotlight to be shared or he tends to wilt. Nashville has the names around him without a doubt.
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12 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
and there's no harm in critiquing that either. I don't stop anybody from posting anything, but it's also my right to say what I want and if I find a rebuttal to my comment(s) to be fanboy crap I will be free to say so and also free to not address it further. Why you decided to get involved in that likely speaks to you seizing an opportunity to attack me personally and if that is what you want to do have at it, but it won't help the Sabres win.
Really doesn't matter if you choose 13 years of failure or 4 years of the latest GM as failure, they are both horrible failures and very few if any GMs last past that sort of thing.
Biggest problem I have with the chosen argument is that using "youngest team" as the excuse ignores the fact this GM CHOSE to have the youngest team.
It is your right to say what you want, we all have the right to say it unless the mods disagree. However, your point was shutting down any oppositional viewpoint by saying people are not listening or refusing to understand when you were doing the same thing. Nothing any of us do on this forum will help the Sabres win, why would you even bring that up?
As for why I got involved? Because I am not a fanboy but I am positive. So in your statement you included me. I am tired of the negativity as well as I've mentioned in other places on the forum. Every day its the same statements in every thread. Hell the guy who got hired as COO is being blasted and he hasn't done anything yet.
The GM has had this time period to build a team because the prior methods of getting this team to the playoffs failed spectacularly. The cupboard was drained of all talent. Again, there was plan... we all get to choose whether we like it or not. The GM chose to have the youngest team because that was the plan. What we won't know is that if this year's plan had paid off and IF the Sabres were in a playoff position would Adams have retained Mitts and then traded away some youth for shoring up the roster? We don't know that. Instead, at the deadline he had an offer to improve the team for next year and he took it. We don't know what other moves will come next so there's no point in assuming negative outcomes.
I get people being frustrated, angry, etc. I think what irritates those people is when they see others who aren't suffering along with them. Post a positive around here and people want to tear you down. They want to drag into their level of hell so you can join them. It's actually a very natural action and not just when talking about the Buffalo Sabres.
I don't like this year. I'm disappointed by the team... but that's it. I'm more upset at the inches of snow falling outside my window right now than I am with the Buffalo Sabres. Because whether they win or lose, it will still be a bitch to get my Friday night beers at the store.
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9 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
Predator's beat Florida at their own game. That team is on a tear. Remind me, who's their leader? Does he love hockey?
Ryan O'Reilly always loves hockey when his team wins... when it doesn't he loses his love of the game and wanders off to another team. He pushed his was out of Colorado, he pushed his way out of Buffalo, he straight up abandoned Toronto...
Don't give him too much credit... The Predators are a good team.. ROR is just a piece of it. They lucked into an exceptional coach after Florida and New Jersey both decided on other options. It's worked OK for Florida, not so much for NJ.
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41 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
What's your point? You want to squabble just to squabble? You bored? Or do you fancy yourself above others? Come on man, you know what the point was. It's fanboy blind belief vs. facts and results. The actual results. and the actual results are another year of failure.
I'm tired of "next year" aren't you? I don't want to hear any more crap about "we are the youngest" when it's a self fulfilling prophecy as we continually make ourselves even younger. There is no other successful team that operates on this sort of model and the results speak for themselves. That's the objectivity and if anyone rejects that, it's just blinders on fanboy speak and I personally have no time for that because there's no speaking to it. That mind is made up and it puts on it's hat and chants slogans regardless of facts. You can't have a discussion with that, it's just impossible and pointless.
Now who's calling names? Is it an affront to you if someone chooses to look at the positives of the team and refuses to share your opinions? A lot of a viewpoint on this team really boils down to the time period over which you want to evaluate it. There's certainly a natural affinity to looking at the tenure of the current owner and calling it a failure.
That said, the current team and its leadership are not responsible for all of the owner's failure. The team established a plan and they've stuck to it. They are a young team and yes, they got younger. This year, they said they were a playoff team, that was their goal. I am sure they believed the players would improve collectively and it obviously did not happen. As such,this season is a failure as measured against their stated goal. But the prior years under Adams they did not establish playoffs as their goal, and as such, we cannot say they failed in achieving their goal. Now, whether their achievements measured up to each person's subjective measurement is quite another story. But, that's subjectivity for you.
As for the bolded statement, I think you are defining yourself just as much as you are attempting to define others. The opposing viewpoint is that anyone patently dismissing an argument for positivity is just a hater and there's no speaking to it. The haters mind is made up.
The team has failed against their stated goal this season. Overall it's been 12 years of failure and not looking good for year 13. That said, there are still positives to take away on the future of the team. Next year will come either way and there's no harm in looking ahead even if some people are tired of doing so.
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1 minute ago, Brawndo said:
Thank you Jerry Forton
So he's bad enough to get pulled from a game but it's okay because he's psycho enough to hack an opposing player on his way off the ice? Does he share genetic code with Craig Binnington?
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54 minutes ago, ... said:
I've answered these attempts to level the field several times already. I am speaking about Granato.
These other people figured it out by having the personal attributes that allowed them to figure it out. Granato is no match for Bowman's acumen. Not smart enough, not creative enough. Granato has shown absolutely no progress or aptitude as a NHL coach beyond what we have already seen.
"They figured it out". Well, that's pretty obvious. However, it's not accurate to say Granato never will. In this thread there are others discussing the lack of a certain personality on the team or a lack of a certain skill within the player base. That matters as well.
There's no one thing that is the problem here (other than the owner).
It's often said that the best players actually make terrible coaches and I think that's been in evidence in many different sports. So, experience playing isn't an indicator of being a great coach any more than lack of experience.
Bottom line no one "gets it" until they do. So everyone is failure until they succeed. Just because they have not yet does not mean they are incapable of doing so. And in some cases just because they never do doesn't mean they suck. Dan Marino isn't considered a bad QB. He never won the Superb Owl.
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This game feels like the Sabres are hanging over a cliff while we watch the rope they are clinging to slowly fray until it snaps and they fall to their doom.
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1 minute ago, thewookie1 said:
The interview was recorded prior to the Isles game I believe.
I think your spot on about Tuch’s “excuses” Frankly he’s likely very torn over the whole situation as a whole seeing as he’s a vet now and wants to play in the playoffs but also understands we have a very young roster. Any derogatory comments he made always included himself as a part of the problem and solution. My favorite comment though was about how the new baby affected his play due to sleep disruptions. He downplayed it yet still held it as a fact although minimally so.
In the end facts do not automatically mean he’s hiding something and making excuses through them. Fact is they have a very young team, experience related problems have shown up many times these past two years. (Primarily in consistency) That doesn’t mean the team is excused of all wrong doing but has to be taken into account. Should they have got a couple more vets, probably, but both can be true.
These are good points. They are the ups and downs that occur during a season and I'd like to think he's taking all of it into account. In my mind, the difference between an excuse and a reason on why something happened boils down to whether it was in one's control or not.
The other aspect of this is that while these players understand that the club has not made the playoffs in 12 seasons (potentially 13), they are not responsible for the vast majority of those seasons. So, part of the pain is wanting to change that but knowing that the plan of the people who've been here slightly longer is to take an approach of youth first.
Finally, youth is a reason. Experience provides the wisdom on how to handle the myriad situations that occur during a season. It's not enough to want do something and it's not enough to know simply how to do it. it takes experience doing it, to do it well.
As fans it still does not change the frustration. My frustration is with ownership primarily for failing all of these years. The GM for getting out over his skis with this playoff talk garbage. Certainly there are other frustrations to go around but they are limited compared to the first two.... especially the owner.
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Kevyn Adams, press conference 4/16/2024
in The Aud Club
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So Kevyn Adams has an offseason to improve the team eh? Sounds good.
If they don't come out of the gate much improved over this year I don't think he makes it to Thanksgiving.
He can say anything he wants, but he said playoffs were the expectation this year... and it did not happen.
He might have decided early on to let the season play out and to back some of the things Granato and the team were saying rather than cause even more distraction like what occurred in Vancouver with Boudreau... who knows. Either way... one offseason... that's it.