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3 hours ago, ponokasabre said:
Lindy did say he skating on his own
Suprised Ellis isn’t starting, I feel he would pitch a shutout against his former team!
St. Louis got destroyed last night so they should come out with some fire
Play like we did against Utah and we will win this game….hopefully in regulation
My quick $0.02 is that the thinking is that we desperately need to close out a win in regulation so they are playing their best goaltender while they are short handed with their forward group.
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On 10/30/2025 at 11:38 AM, inkman said:
I’m no Adams defender but goaltending is witchcraft. Some kids burst into the league at 20 years old and become all starts. Some guys take until they are 25-28 years old to become a steady NHL goaltender. Adam’s (maybe at Pegula’s behest) thrust Levi immediately into NHL duty. What looked like a promising start to his career (7 games at the end of the 22-23 season) turned into a small sample size projection. They handed him the keys the following season based on those 7 games and it went south quickly. They tried it again last season and it went worse. Should we blame poor supporting cast? Probably. They’ve addressed it somewhat. I don’t think his development has been bad, it’s just not on the schedule everyone here wanted. The problem has been having UPL in the fold. He’s not good.
I think the change in development path is thanks to having real life hockey adults in the room.
The problem with a 23 year old Levi is that he sees the change in path as a demotion rather than a reset. And frankly that's understandable for a 23 year old. But honestly, were just bringing him along the way he should have been all along.
The problem isn't today's situation. The problem was the situation he walked into. It's hard for a 23 year old to see that spending more time in the AHL is better for them then playing meaningful games in during a playoff push. But it really is a better spot for him.
Whether he becomes an NHL starter is a different conversation. But you can't convince me that Adams sticks to this path for Levi without Ruff/Jarmo in the room.
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1 hour ago, Mango said:
Is it just me or does it seem like UPL barely knows where the puck is at times?
We've gotten lucky a few times that they've mishandled the puck, missed the net etc. with half of it wide open.
(I know I'm quoting myself)
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Is it just me or does it seem like UPL barely knows where the puck is at times?
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8 hours ago, Weave said:
Its still early. Real early.
We're also hanging him out to dry. It's barely sustainable for great goaltenders.
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On 10/14/2025 at 3:46 PM, SABRES 0311 said:
How can you be so successful as a business man without knowing basic leadership?
This guy sucks and I’m wondering if actual intelligent people made the business moves for him.
You don't need to wonder. That's what happened. Jerry Forton is the brother in law of his business manager on the natural gas side. That's 100% the case and Forton is 100% a nepo hire.
They've known each other decades before Terry bought the team.
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15 minutes ago, Thorny said:
It could also just be a reflection of how much Terry legitimately likes Adams and therefore wants to keep him on in some capacity rather than a desire to actually continue implementing the ideas Adams brought forth. Ie I do think there are positions in the org that pay well yet don’t have much actual influence
2 things.
1. I did specify hockey ops
2. Even outside of hockey ops, reconstituting somebody like Adams, who failed so hard at his job is a decision that solidifies the idea that they haven't taken a complete honest inventory of the situation.At that point Adams might as well be blood related and actually be a nepo baby. Because Adams has next to no value add to the org in any capacity outside of likability to Terrance Pegula. And having guys around that Terrance likes vs who is doing a good job is exactly how we got here in the first place.
Adams history with Pegula as a lowly video guy who got to chirp in the owners ear makes it impossible to keep him around.
There's no world where keeping Adams in the building is a good idea.
ZERO.
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22 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:
It would be weird to turn the keys over to a guy who has never done the job before versus a guy that has.
I totally agree with you.
I am not saying it is a good decision. Or even a sensical one. I just think that if Terry is going to keep Adams in hockey ops rather than cut him loose then they are ultimately keeping the same vision and plan, just shuffling chairs. So if Adams goes to POHO, then the likely decision for Pegula is Forton and Appert.
My totally uneducated opinion is that in order for somebody like Jarmo to be hired as GM, and Appert not become HC, then Adams needs to be out of the building. Adams being in the building means business as usual.
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32 minutes ago, Pimlach said:
Forton would be a worse choice than Karmanos or Jarmo.
I think Karmanos will move on if he isn't given the GM job. His AGM role includes being the GM of Rochester and I think that will get him some looks in more desirable places.
I didn't say Forton was a good choice, just that I thought it would be likely if they stick with Adams in hockey ops.
Forton is a worse choice than just about any other candidate that has been considered for any other NHL GM position for any other orginzation in the last ....well ever. -
I think this org either wants somebody like Jarmo in charge or they want somebody like Adams in charge. They will either stick with the plan with Adams in the Hockey Ops C-Suite or they won't.
I don't think there is a grey area where they hire a real life NHL professional to roll up to Kevyn Adams. -
6 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:
Everything is proceeding as Sheevyn has foreseen.
Jarmo to GM. Adams to POHO. Ruff to Senior Advisor. Appert to HC.
The question then is: does Jarmo have enough clout (or just patience) to enact his vision and trades without having to simply do as Adams/Pegula want? Will he storm out Lafontaine-style or will he rebel Boterill-style and get fired for not listening? And how soon can he turn this return gig with a dysfunctional leadership into a stable, real GM job on another franchise?
If Adams is moved to POHO I don't think it's Jarmo, I think it's Forton as GM
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Curious of the perspective of both Sabres and Bills fans right now.
It should be Kevyn Adams and it should have been done at least 365 days ago.
My money is on Terry running it back with all 3.
(I spared Lindy on this list, because his contract is up anyways. He isn't coaching anybody in 26-27. He would just be a scapegoat) -
TBD starting to turn on Pegula.
If Ter-Bear can't get the Bills across the finish line, his time in Buffalo will get very very ugly. -
53 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Do you really think Mr. Let's-start-Geersten has a grip on rebuilding the Sabres? I'm not sure.
Of all the hockey advisors on the planet, do I think Lindy is the best person for the job?
No
Out of all the hockey advisors on the planet that I think Terry will actually hire and maybe convince Terry to run a proper NHL franchise, don't think Lindy Ruff is the best person for the job?
Yes
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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I don't see the point. Just fire Ruff again. Fire Adams. Promote Jarmo and either Appert or Leone. Name Prospal HC in Rochester. They have to do something soon.
In a well run franchise? Sure, move on from Ruff.
In a Pegula lead franchise? Somebody needs to have have Terry's trust.
Pegula isn't throwing the keys to the car to a stranger. My $0.02 is that if you don't put somebody Terry trusts between him and the GM you're going to get a Forton/Appert pairing.
Ruff moving to Pegulas side is this teams best chance of turning this around (without selling the team).
Edit: Also, bring in Deboers.
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If these guys aren't going to listen to the HC and they aren't going to give any effort, Lindy should just leave the bench and go to the parking lot and drive home for the day.
Fork these kids. If they're so smart let them figure it out themselves.
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3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
The quote:
Lindy Ruff said: “We have to raise our level of compete. I thought our compete was terrible. Worst level of compete and skating and moving the feet that I’ve seen.”
It is two games in and he already sounds super exhausted.
I just don't get this group. It has to stem from maybe the worst onboarding process in the NHL. And that isn't a knock on Lindy or Donnie. That is on Adams. He just handed the kids the keys to the car.-
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6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Hockey locker rooms are gross.
And Benson looks dirty on his cleanest days. Good to know that's not just a vibe, he is literally always unclean. Lol.
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For all th back and forth about Terry v Adams and meddling v absent, it's clear Terry groomed Adams for this role. They are in absolute lock step. Theres no side to pick. It's a circle.
The team is built in Terry's vision and Adams absolutely shares Terry's vision. There is some nuance to it. Terry meddles with GMs who don't share his vision and is "absent" with GM's who do.
I don't think Kevyn is a "Yes Man". A yes man implies they just do whatever the boss says. Kevyn 100% believes he's doing a good job, 100% believes he doesn't need more cash, 100% believes all the people are in the building.
So does Terry.
I suspect that any changes will result in Appert as HC and Forton as GM.
@Thorny and @mjd1001 are arguing different sides of the same coin.
There needs to be change at GM. It's our only chance. But the odds of Terry making a good hire and staying out of the way are remarkably low.
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My uneducated guess is that Norris has a stress fracture in his ribs. That's basically a "shut it down for a month" injury before starting rehab and that is another month or so.
Stress fractures are overuse injuries. If he's been often injured, having his first productive offseason in some time could easily trigger it.
It's pretty common in elite athletes with a lot of repetive motion like rowing, swimming, etc.
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Positive: This looks like a professional hockey team and that's an improvement.
Negative: There aren't enough good players.
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3 hours ago, Taro T said:
It essentially is. It was spawned from their in-game PSA announcement with Rob Ray donning a Fred Rogers-esque sweater and talking about how to behave in the rink. For the B&G games, it's just Ray by himself in Mr. Rayzor's Sabrehood but for B&R games, Marty joins him as an unruly fan.
Slightly cute the 1st 20 or so times they showed but, but it's now been going on for 2 or 3 years and it's starting to get a bit long in the Sabretooth.
Oh, for some reason I thought it came from some of the young players at the time because they all lived right near eachother.
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15 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Now that's a leap. Jack didn't understand anything other than he hated Buffalo. I'd argue Jack along with Evander was the source of the bad locker room vibes that derailed this franchise.
That's a implies that the Pegula era before Eichel the franchise was firmly on the tracks.
That's certainly a take.
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8 hours ago, 7+6=13 said:
What if Tuch signs for 8 years/88 mil and then Tage asks for a trade mid season, then Benson's agent leaks that he won't sign an extension under any circumstances?
I'm not saying Tuch is the best player on the roster. I'm saying he's the linchpin to keeping any of the good we have in Buffalo.
Per some of the podcasts over the off-season it seems like Tage is already close to asking out. I think losing Tuch would put him over that hump in fairly short order.
Have there been any rumors about Benson?
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My take is that for the first time in a long time we are fielding what looks like a professional NHL hockey team. Albeit a team that is lacking talent.
I know Ruff is a whipping boy, but he is a real life, acredited NHL coach. He gets a lot of credit for managing this team the last year and getting it to where it is right now.
Does that mean he is amazing? Or the best hire? No, not at all. But he may have been the only realistic/possible hire that could manage PegAdams and field what looks to be a professional hockey team.
I have no faith in Appert next year and I think we go back to whatever the fork the last 13 years were.
Hoping we keep Jarmo and Ruff in house in some way going forward so there are at least hockey professionals in the room with Pegula, Adams, and Forton.