korab rules
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now is it over?
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can we all agree that soccer is stupid again? Wait - why are they still playing?
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Except hitting and fighting but most fans don't care about either of those things
We didn't see much of mitchell. I think you will like what he brings. Cody is always willing to drop the gloves, and I applaud him for that, but he really shouldn't fight anymore. He's at risk of a concussion every time his head hits the pillow.
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Matt Larkin @THNMattLarkin 1m
Meszaros to Buffalo on a one-year deal is smart. Helps reach cap floor, plus he's flippable at the deadline for a draft pick.
This. I guess the young guys won't be seeing much time in the bigs this year. Not before the deadline, anyway.
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We can also take heart that GMTM gives absolutely zero ###### about what we think of the signing.
this is reassuring. Sad that we have to mention it is now the case.
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And you refuted the source of my opinion, meaning you must have a better source than the unreliable Internets.
But since we're revisiting, let's recap:
Moulson's salary cap impact - Refuted
Moulson's soft play - Refuted
Moulson's small size - Refuted
Moulson's locker room influence - I guess we'll have to compare sources.
Got any other excuses for this apparently craptastic signing?
You don't get it - hopefully your high school offers a course on critical thinking and debate.
You saying something doesn't prove anything. Someone else saying something doesn't prove anything.
you've got an opinion? good for you. Learn to express it persuasively.
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wait, isn't this the part where we call each other names?Okay, that seems fair enough. I disagree but I understand the point.
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Let me see if I can explain thisso we can all move on. To me this is a Darcy contract. He's a decent player, but the contract is too long and the player is unlikely to be able to perform to the contract when we will need him to the most. He's also a Darcy kind of player in my opinion. I want TM players. I want ass kickers and power forwards who are bigger stronger tougher and meaner than the other team. I don't give a ###### what numbers moulson can put up in the first three years because I don't care what our results are. I care about year four and five when moulson will likely be a contractual and performance liability. As chz said we can buy him out then I guess. I was just hoping that the days of buying out bad contracts were behind us.I guess I just don't understand how you see him as a dud. I understand the contract question but the player himself you see as a dud?
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i didn't opine - you did. Just stop. Go back -re- read it all until you understand. Or don't. Either way, I really don't care.Sorry, the porn king of 70s is taken
Again, what makes you more qualified to opine on Moulson's leadership?
Is it the same set of knowledge that makes you think that he plays a soft game? Or that goals & points don't matter to a hockey team?
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Glad everyone is so in love with him. I disagree. This is probably the first TM dud. Time will tell. He's certainly entitled to miss on a couple when he's taking big swings.
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Not really that similar at all. Big difference between a 5 mil cap hit in 5 years, and a 10mil cap hit in 7 years. In 5 years around 5 of our prospects will be in their first deal. And let's just say if we are anywhere near cap trouble because of moulson's 5 mil, then things went great. Reinhart is a superstar, grigorenko's bridge contract is done and he is due for a payday, Girgensons, Larsson are top 6 players, ristolainen and zadorov are top pairing Dmen, and pysyk and McCabe are top 4!
Forget our guys, what about deadline deals, trades and free agents?
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Get a real avatar and learn to think for yourself.Blindly?
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I didn't say he wasn't. blindly claiming he is, though, is weak sauce.Then, I'll defer to your first hand knowledge of the Sabres' & Islanders' locker room culture.
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Not exactly the same thing. If Ehrhoff acts rationally (not playing for $1MM/yr when he could either retire or go to Europe and make more for a shorter season), the Sabres would have been hit w/ recapture - at least $3MM/ probably 5MM for 2 years or $10MM over a single season depending upon when he quit.
W/ Moulson, they could send him and a 2nd to somebody and voila, no cap hit. If they buy the last 2 years out, it's still less than Ehrhoff's recapture.
I'll let it go and make this my ladt post to you on the subject, as we won't see eye to eye on this one.
Except that we gave him a no trade, so the ability to move him isnt guranteed. Yes, it is potentially a smaller hit than ehrhoff's recapture, but potentially larger. But then there is the buyout possibility.
Good call. I think that pretty much settles the future cap hit concern.
Korab -- I'm satisfied. How 'bout you?
It certainly makes me feel better.
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meh. never a cody fan. at least money doesn't matter to us anymore, so we can send him back and forth to Rochester as needed. Torey Mitchell is better at everything than Cody
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Think of it today from the Islanders perspective.
The Sabres got Moulson, Gorges, karabacek, and first and second rounders next year.
The Islanders got Sebastian Collberg and Josh Ho-Sang
ouch.
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I don't see how you can make this statement.
Moulson will be 35 in year 4 of this deal and 36 in year 5. He could easily have fallen completely off the table just in time for the Sabres to have emerged as real Cup contenders -- and a $5MM cap slot at that time will be a precious commodity.
If avoiding a future cap hit was a big reason to trade Ehrhoff, we shouldn't pretend it's not an issue here.
Ehrhoff is exactly the parallel. We were just soundly ridiculed for what might happen in the future - and wrongfully so. I think buying erhoff out was a tough decision but the right one. But now we just stuck our dick back in the same knothole we pulled it out of.
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Your posts are buzzkill and make it obvious you don't like Moulson. Fair enough but please don't tell me this deal will handcuff us anytime down the road. It won't. We have a skill guy coming back and we threw him a bone with NTC. I don't know if it is full or limited but don't care.
This is all good news.
ahh - sorry to interrupt your happy dance. I like moulson just fine, he's a nice player, but he won't be worth anywhere near 5 mill in 5 years. glad to know you are prescient - despite the fact you don't even know what the deal is, nor do you care.
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6'1" 205lbs is smallish? :huh:
and gerbe is 5'7".
look at him on the ice. He's not that big. And he certainly doesn't play anywhere near that big. Agree or disagree, I don't care. My point isn't as much about the player as it is about the term. Especially in light of the fact he will be 36 in the final year of that contract.
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Tough to argue with this other than to say I hope he is productive and a good mentor in years 4 and 5.
korab, what do you think about this one? This takes him to age 40.
I would have paid him 7 mil per for 3 years. He is exactly what we want our team to be - a big strong tough ass ripper who plays a possession game and won't take ###### from anyone.
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Plus we still need to get to the floor and that eats a nice chunk of it.
we need to get to the floor this year, not 5 years from now. Pay him, or anyone, whatever you awant in the next 3 years. we may need that space in 5 years.
Other than provide points, solid workman-like effort and great veteran presence?
You know who provided a lot of points? Miro Satan - and he was run out of town as soon as a real leadership group showed up. Points are irrelevant to what the sabres are doing right now, and he won't be producing many points at 36 when points will matter. How do you know he's a great veteran presence?
I'm sure Murray and Company worded the contract where there won't be much of a cap hit on those last couple of years. But its going to be 3 years before the Sabres are solid playoff contenders again anyways. Plus I doubt Murray wants to tie up an extra 2 mill per season on 1 player when he will be looking to add pieces in the years ahead
There are plenty of Hockey Players producing well in their mid 30's..
This isn't how contracts work at all. Same cap hit all 5 years. That why I said give him 7 mil for 3 years. we don't need the money now, but we might when year 4 and 5 roll around.
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Who will need that money in 5 years?
I think it's pretty obvious we are building around prospects so having a vet take up 5 mil when the first few of our top prospects cheap entry level contracts end isn't too bad.
In year 5 of that contract we should be challenging for a cup. That 5 mill in cap space could be the difference between us bringing in someone to put us over the top, or not being able to. Moulson will be 36 by then, and we know what happens to smallish goal scorers when they hit 30. I would have rather they paid him 3 years 21 mill or even 4 years at whatever. That 5th year really sticks in my craw.
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Moulson plays a perimeter game? You sure you have the right guy?
yup. Yes he will dart in for a scoring opportunity but he is not a possession player capable of forechecking and playing a power game, which is the kind of team TM is building.
SIGNING: Sabres Sign Matt Moulson
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Have another beer and chill out. Wow - people just can't stand someone not agreeing with this move! But accusing Pegula of being an accessory to child molestation is ok. This board has slid further than I thought. Or maybe it's just draft/free agent day fan boys crawling out of the woodwork.
Yeah! Go team! We are going to win the Stanley cup! Just don't count on new fan favorite Moulson to guide us there, as his career point production in the playoffs is just more than half of his regular season production.