darksabre
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11 minutes ago, Taro T said:
Not sure why but that's what's been presented by usually reliable sources pretty much since last fall. Guess it's a combination of the injury history & attitude. Remember, though Adams wasn't a part of the team until last summer, he was around it for a long time.
This is why I have maintained that if Jack is traded it will be because management wants him gone, not because he wants out.
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1 minute ago, Taro T said:
Seems the Spring is the earliest this shortage MIGHT abate.
And it's trickled down to the used car market, too. Friend has a used car dealership & he said auctions that used to have 1,400 car have about a dozen cars now.
That's just nuts.
My buddy who works as an engineer for Toyota says things might not get back to normal until 2023.
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On 5/12/2021 at 4:04 PM, nfreeman said:
As a related point, I've been kinda wondering whether Jack's primary goal was to force the Sabres to consent to the surgery, not to force a trade -- i.e. maybe he's OK with staying here (although he'd doubtless be fine with a trade to a good team), but no matter what he wants to quit screwing around, have the surgery and get in shape for next season.
On 5/12/2021 at 4:42 PM, darksabre said:I'm glad you said this because it's something I was thinking but couldn't find a way to work into the post. It would be absolutely wild if Jack isn't trying to get traded and this whole thing is ONLY about the surgery. Look at all this chaos. He wants a surgery that no one in the league would recommend and he's bringing hell down on his team over it.
For his reputation's sake he better be trying to force a trade.
I was thinking about this exchange specifically today. I believe, now more than ever, that what Jack was trying to do was force the surgery AND the trade, and now, over 4 months later, he has not gotten either.
It seems very possible that this timeline (wait and see on the hernia, fusion surgery in the fall, no Olympics) was what Adams proposed to him way back in May and caused Jack and his team to go nuclear because Jack wanted to be back on the ice (and for a different team) ASAP.
Regardless of how this all eventually shakes out, I don't think this was the result Jack wanted. Which is why he and his team did what they did.-
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5 minutes ago, dudacek said:
Agree wholeheartedly on the first. Disagree on the 2nd.
As for the 3rd, I don’t think they are planning to finish last the way Tim Murray was, but they are expecting to be on the running and to have shot at a centre at least as good as Cozens in the process.
Sure. We're in a bit of a gray area here. People have gotten very obsessed with throwing the work tank around whenever a team looks like it'll be bad. This isn't a tank in the traditional sense, but it's not like they've got a team assembled that is unlikely to finish in the bottom 6.
It's not a tank, they just aren't planning to be very good. The pressure is off the kids in this way. Fans won't be cheering for them to lose (I hope...) but there won't be an expectation that they'll win either. Just show up and put in the work.
It'll be a lost season for anyone who expects the playoffs, and so people will just call it a tank instead I guess.-
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6 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
Rebuild vs Tank. We are rebuilding in general. However, KA is clearly tanking this season in order to draft a replacement for Eichel. No other way to explain pivoting from Ullmark to Anderson/Dell. This is going from playoff caliber goaltending to AHL level goaltending.
I firmly believe they expected to sign Ullmark and he pulled the rug out from under them. I like Linus, but he kinda effed the Sabres.
They also aren't looking to "replace Eichel". They've already done so. They believe Cozens is going to be the number 1 center going forward. It could not be more clear.
They will be bad this year, and will probably pick high. But there's no way picking 1st overall is the plan. It's just not entirely out of the question looking at where the roster is right now. The "let the kids drive it" philosophy will probably result in a bad team, but not on purpose. It's just the development philosophy they've agreed on.-
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2 minutes ago, dudacek said:
This seems the most likely path, unless Brisson can sweet talk a GM into accepting disc replacement and paying the freight.
Because Adams has failed at both, and at getting Jack to accept the situation — although most here seem to think that is a success, not a failure.
I'm neither here nor there on whether or not Adams is succeeding. I just think this whole thing was sort of...inevitable. Which is why I haven't been killing myself to debate it much or worry about if/when it was going to get done.
An extremely valuable player wanting to be traded while simultaneously very injured was always going to be a heavy lift. A quick resolution, knowing the facts of the situation, just seemed out of the question. And that is bearing itself out.
I don't think the Pegulas care at this point if it makes them look bad, the damage is done. They'll hold Jack hostage as long as they need to. This turned from a skirmish into a siege months ago and it won't be ending anytime soon. And the longer it goes on, the less newsworthy it will be when he is finally traded. He won't be around the team so that's all that matters to them I think.-
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At this point I expect that Jack won't be traded until the spring at the earliest. He'll get a surgery of some kind once he realizes the Sabres are fine with holding him hostage on LTIR for as long as needed or he actually wins a medical arbitration case. Then he can rehab and get back to 100%. Then he gets traded.
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3 minutes ago, SDS said:
Maybe. An alternative scenario would be your suggestion being less dramatic today, before anything even begins, and drawing this out well into the season. Peeling a Band-Aid off certainly hurts less but it takes a lot longer.
lastly, there will never be a day when the captain of the buffalo sabres isn’t like one of the top three things hockey fans in Buffalo talk about.
I mean, we know the team doesn't care what the fans think anyway.
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18 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:
And it sends the wrong message to the team. This guy that says he has to look out for himself, doesn’t want to be on the team, had his agent trying to force a trade publicly, refuses the surgery the doctors approve is still your captain and leader. Wow
That's just it. He wouldn't be the Captain. No one would be the Captain. The result is exactly the same but without any of the circus. They're already not going to have a Captain this season. The players know there won't be a Captain this season. They know Jack won't be the Captain because he's not coming back. So just let it be.
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2 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:
What were they going to do, keep it a secret? Eichel has put himself in this mess, there is no need to placate him at this point.
That's not the point. The point is that it would have been very easy to say: Jack is hurt and as a result we are going to start the season without assigning a captain. And then eventually he gets traded and you just let it happen organically. It's that simple and drama free.
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1 minute ago, ubkev said:
Leave Cate Blanchett out of this! She's a classy lady.
She's sneaky good in the movie HANNA
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2 minutes ago, Mustache of God said:
Unprofessional? Jack Eichel's post-season presser was the most unprofessional interview I've seen from a Captain. "My number one interest is Jack Eichel" , to paraphrase. The moment he said that I wanted the captaincy removed from him.
It's also funny how whenever we get bland, non-answers from the GM, every complains how they never say anything and now that he directly answers a question every complains it's unprofessional?
I liked the answer, wish we saw more of that.
Just because Jack's presser was unprofessional doesn't give the entire Sabres org cart blanche to just act the same way.
PLEASE MAY I HAVE JUST A CRUMB OF CREDIBILITY-
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1 minute ago, Gabrielor said:
I think they're extremely disappointed, no doubt. He was supposed to be the guy. They paid him 80 million dollars guaranteed long before he earned it, and hasn't done anything of note for this franchise, and now, he wants out 5 years early on that deal he didn't earn.
I despise the way Terry and Kim have run this team, but I'd feel the same way about Jack. How can't you?
I just don't know what to think anymore about any of this. It all seems so ridiculous.
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2 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:
I posted it elsewhere: What was the point of this press conference?
My kid's high school has a poster in the cafeteria about things that you say -- something like, Is it Kind? Is it Helpful? Is it Necessary? Something like that.
For GMKA ... what was helpful or necessary about this statement about the captaincy?
It looks incredibly unprofessional. I can't understand why any of this needed to be said.
All they needed to do was say that due to Jack's injury situation the team won't start the season with a Captain. It's that easy.
Instead he's taking shots at Jack for not being the team's heart and soul? Even if that is true, you don't need to say it.
Adams, and I guess the Pegulas, must really hate Jack. Like, they must think he's the biggest piece of ***** in the world.-
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42 minutes ago, Weave said:
It’s a smart strategy when that player is in a healthy environment. When you are still figuring out how to build that environment it is alot safer to lock them up long term so you have control should they get antsy while you are still figuring it out.
If the Sabres haven't found a way to fall bassackwards into a playoff spot by the end of this contract then he would probably be looking to John Eichel his way out no matter what contract he signed and no one will be watching the team anymore anyway.
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3 minutes ago, Shootica said:
No need to stoke the flames here. Jack will be starting the year on LTIR anyway, so just label someone else as the interim captain for that reason. Formally stripping him of the C just turns the whole situation into an even larger circus.
Yup. Easy to side-step. Just say you're doing rotating C's or something.
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43 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:
So is this the contract y'all envisioned when he was drafted? I would have guessed at least double-digit millions a year, to go along with his double-digit Norris Trophies already won.
I expected him to be showing us a little more at this point, but who knows which way is up or down with this team. Is anyone good? Is everyone bad? No idea.
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Just now, Thorny said:
Fair enough, but was merely saying I care more about savings in the next few years as opposed the a fair few years from now.
My biggest issue by far with this deal is term - I've been saying for, what, a year or so now I didn't like the idea of going bridge, no inclination to back down from that now
That's fine. I just think the bridge deal is the better play here. I don't have Sam Reinhart Trauma.
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3 minutes ago, Thorny said:
8 years from now encompasses our best current center's prime (Dylan Cozens) so for me I was after the savings in the back half that a LT deal would presumably provide - the savings we'd need while presumably competing in the playoffs during the prime years of Cozens, Dahlin, et all. Not quite as worried yet about age 30+ for these guys, more so trying to do something useful in their 20s, first.
I'm not too worried about savings. Good teams find ways to make the money work.
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I think it's the right move from the standpoint of trying to get as much time from "prime Dahlin" as possible.
He's 21 right now. He'll be 24 when this bridge is up and they have to get a new deal done. At that point, if he's turned into the player we want him to, no one will have a problem with the Sabres signing him to a big money 8 year deal. That will carry him to 32 and then the Sabres can walk away from him knowing they got him in his prime.
I prefer this to signing him to 8 or 9 years now and then having him turn out to be good and trying to decide whether or not they need to lock him in for another 6-8 like Karlsson when he's 29-30 years old. No thanks. I don't want anything to do with that.-
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5 minutes ago, Hoss said:
He lives there. I don’t know why people question Jack being in Buffalo.
Everything is a mystery!
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9 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:
Is the stadium safe?
Define "safe" 😅
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Jack Eichel's Gambit
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There's one very good reason why he wouldn't do this: money.
Jack is stuck. He wants the surgery, but he also wants to get paid.
If he does the ADR, it goes wrong and ends his playing career, and the Sabres void his contract, he's broke and out of a job.
That's why he wants the Sabres to approve it. He doesn't want to lose that money if he ends up as damaged goods.