Braedon
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Braedon, that beer is all about tones of fruit and dark malt. When you see words like syrupy to describe it, they are referring to mouthfeel more than sweetness. I suppose that a syrupy mouthfeel combined with notes of dark fruits could be mistaken for sweetness on the tongue but I am very sure that beer is fermented quite dry. To give a wine example, think of how a jammy pinot noir might taste if it was very low in tannins. It is a dry wine that might be mistaken for sweet because of the fruity, jammy flavors. Similar concept with 3 Philosophers, fruit notes without risidual sweetness.
Noted. Again, a work in progress.
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These guys are real beer snobs and this is what they have to say about it. Alot of them reach a bit too much with their descriptions but there are enough common thoughts to give you a pretty good idea of what the beer is like. Overall they are a pretty reliable source for beer tasting notes.
That's who I read for beer (malt advocate is one of my sources for whisky). I read sweet, but it may be because I invest more in the cherry, syrup, candy, pear, etc. If I pick up fruit in a whisky (e.g. speysides), it's by no means sweet, just subtle tones. However, if someone tells me a beer is sweet (e.g. grains of paradise or some of the wheat beers), I taste sweet. So I wasn't sure if this was more a sweet beer, or a beer with tones of fruit. I don't have a great nose/palate for beers, the yeast and grains take over many of the scents I can pick up in whisky.
A work in progress for me.
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Apples to oranges. It is a Belgian Quad in style and very high alcohol for a beer. It is rich and dark and has hints of sour cherries but loads of dark fruit flavors too. But not sweet. Closer to sour really. It is a blend of 10% sour Belgian lambic so there is no real underlying sweetness. If anything, it finishes a touch dry. Definitely NOT an all night beer. If memory serves it is close to a 10% ABV beer. Think brandy snifter and lightly chilled.
Interesting. Not what I would expect from reading its notes.
I noticed you mentioned FB Scotch Ale. Funny thing is that I've never tried theirs, though my 'Sabre Beer' after games at Pearl Street was Lord Stanley Scotch Ale. Man I miss that beer.
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I do like Flying Bison line on tap. I like porters/stouts/reds on tap when out and they are pretty good all around.
Genny is fine. I have a little ritual after a clean trip to Roswell and go to Anchor Bar for wings and Genny Cream Ale.
Braedon....Export is even better on tap but nobody has it anymore. Molson also got rid of 24 packs of Ex in the states...which is a wallet killer. I just love it. It's not too harsh for someone who likes a "liquidy" beer, but has enough pizzaz to separate itself from Canadian/Blue.
My 4:20 was Old English Ice. Everyone would make fun of me for it....but a 40 of that and a little puff-puff would put me in the zone. They don't make that anymore. I swear...all my favorite stuff over the years gets discontinued. I must have truly bad taste.
I drink to that. I'm just to happy to get a bottle of it, the family brings some down for me when they visit. Hands down my favorite Canadian beer. After that it's Alexander Keith's. I am not a fan of Labatts, it has always tasted mealy to me.
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Three Philosophers. Freaking awesome.
Ok, never had it but know about it. I'm not a sweet beer guy, so I'm hesitant. Give it to me in comparison to Sam Cherry: as sweet, not as sweet, or apples and oranges?
Also, would you consider this an all night beer or more of an aperitif?
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I don't like wheaty stuff....I don't like IPA's....I don't like lite.....almost anything else is fair game.
I think Sam Adams is by far the best quality line of the mass produced beers. Old Fezziwig might be my favorite.
Molson Export is my favorite regular beer.
I just can't get giddy enough about any small brewery or craft beer to make it a "favorite". There are plenty of good selections out there, but no must-have. I'm all for walking into Premier or Consumers and picking up a random 6 pack of something.
AHHH CRAP.......Something you and I have in common :beer:
Thanks for the thread Weave, I won't go in as much depth, but here are mine:
Favorite Stout, All Around - Guinness
Favorite "Domestic" Ale - Molson Export
Favorite "Import" Ale - Duvel
Favorite pale ale - HopDevil
Favorite Hefeweizen - Paulaner
Favorite Crap Beer - Miller High Life
Favorite Seasonal - Sam Summer
Favorite "Knock me on my ass" beer - Great Lakes Blackout Stout (9.0%)
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Funerals.
Hear that bro. 2 wakes, 2 funerals in 3 days this past week.
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I make back to B-lo for a funeral, and my dad packed the fridge with Molson Export Ale for me. Except that I'm rocking a fever, sick as a dog. Like winning the lottery, and not being able to spend the money. :cry:
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Well, that was quite a post.
I agree on Oban and Maker's mark.
BTW, I just picked up a new (to me) single malt at the duty free called Ancnoc. Very nice.
Keep at it Bio, sounds like you're settling in nicely. I've tasted Glenrothes Select Rsv but never any of their Vintage Malts. Let me know if it grows on you. And BTW, the thesis is supposed to ENHANCE your pursuit, not deter.
Weave is on his way to becoming a dirt water connoisseur....welcome to the dark side :clapping:
I haven't tried an Cnoc in it's current form, however have had a dram of Knockdhu which was the name of the same distillery for over 100 years. I like Oban as well, however always seem to return to the peat on Islay.
Right now, Laphroaig's Quarter Cask is my poison.
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I kinda have to laugh at all of you men out there who are complaining about the lack of sleeping space because your wives are expecting. AFAIAC, if the Lord ever blesses my wife and I with a baby, I am going to enjoy every moment of it. We've been waiting long enough as it is.
Cross, that is some hard luck and I wish you and your wife the best. Keep the faith bro.
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Whenever anyone bumps this thread, I feel obligated to contribute. Even though it's the 'worst, most irrelevant topic on a hockey board - ever' :thumbdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKDgkcx9ric
Love the video as much as the song.
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it got unlocked but now its friday thats my complaint grrrrr well its still thursday on the west coast so w/e
I'm here with ya.
First week off since December, and last week off till August. Instead of spending it with my kids, I spent it fine tuning a manuscript and jumping into two other projects. Now it's the end of the week, and filled with Sam Adams and regret.
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This is a great topic and I have enjoyed reading every response!
I have some experience in this arena, both from being old and from making educational trips to both Ireland and Scotland, where I took courses and visited several distilleries. I tried single malts in both countries that we will never see over here, and even got to taste a couple that were over fifty years old. It is a fascinating subject to learn about, and if you cannot be so lucky as to go to either country personally, be sure and read up on it!
I am certainly not a snob about whisk(e)y, and the best advice I can give is to try as many as you can, because no two are the same. I agree that one cube is the only thing that should be added to single malt, as it will cut it just enough as it melts, as by all means SIP, don't shoot.
My recommendations for reasonably priced, readily available, mild whiskies to start with include:
Scotch : Glenfiddich or Glenmorangie - not peaty or smokey (which are a taste most work up to)
Irish : Red Breast or Black Bush (by Bushmills)
Bourbon : Maker's Mark or Knob Creek
As this is a subjective topic based on individual taste, each of us will have our own favorites and recommendations and nobody is wrong! It is something that is alot of fun to discuss, especially while sampling some of the product, and accompanied by a good cigar!
Enjoy!
Thanks for sharing, I'm extremely jealous of your voyage east. Did you happen to tour any of the Islay or Skye distilleries?
I really like Glenmorangie. 10 wont break the bank (I think around $40) and it's got a fair amount of heather in the nose. Completely different than the lowland/island malts.
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getting into whisky/-ey is a lot of fun -- hard to go wrong, really.
this is a rule for good reason -- although i got with about a tablespoon of water, and no more.
ton of good feedback here.
as i understand it, using or dropping the "e" isn't a function of the style or method of making the drink -- it's just a bit of an idiosyncracy [sic?]. the rule of thumb i was taught was that if the drink's country of origin has an "e" in its name, then it's whiskey (unitEd statEs of america, irEland), whereas if the country has no "e", you're buying whisky (scotland, canada).
That's right. Add Japan to the 'whisky' group. Their single malts once beat the Scots in a taste test.
Someone hasn't told my favorite brand: http://www.makersmar...spx%3fpgid%3d23
I'm good with it spelled either way.
I believe the creator of MM is Scottish which is why they spelled it sans 'e'.
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There is a lot of talk of Macallan 12 if you chose to try a nice single malt though I personally believe that the 10 year is an easy one to drink for anyone, my brother has never been a scotch drinker and that's where I started him off...he and his group of friends we shared it with loved it ( not a group of 21 yr old kids they're all well into their 30's ). Though If you want to go straight to the acquired taste shoot me a line and we can have a glass of my Macallan UKDM 21 year, always looking for reasons to open her up.
Weave, you called me crazy for drinking high end single malt, ask Defeated how much the 21 year costs :)
Good call on the 10 year, it is definitely easier on the palate. Little tidbit, the 10 is Neil Peart's (from Rush) favorite, he prefers it over the more aged brethren.
Another option is the Macallan Fine Oak series, the 10 or 15 is very nice as it's aged in both Spanish and American sherry casks as well as American bourbon casks. The bourbon casks brings down the kick of the sherry, and makes for a smoother whisky.
All this talk about the angel's share has me drooling. It's time for Lagavulin and Pancakes.
ONE MORE THING:
I suggest you pick up a book about whisky as it will be easier to understand the differences and help guide you to your drink of choice. I like 'Whiskey' by Michael Jackson (sob, RIP sir......not the singer), link below.
If you get into single malt, Jackson was a guru that rated both beers and single malt. His book Complete Guide to Single Malt Scotch is the bible for malt drinkers.
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Swingers man, talk about a movie that has women pegged. It's so money and it doesn't even know it.
That it does.
Trent: I wish they still had fights in this game so I could bitch-slap Wayne.
Mike: What? They don't have fighting anymore?
Trent: Doesn't that suck?
Mike: Why'd they get rid of the fighting? It was the best part of the old version.
Sue: I think kids were hittin' each other or somethin', man.
Trent: Yeah but you know what, Mike? You can make their heads bleed in this one.
Mike: Make somebody's head bleed.
Sue: No man, we're in the playoffs.
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Aw, I was going to recommend Talisker, too. It burns so good. :thumbsup:
(I also have a bottle of Bruichladdich Infinity, which is quite nice.)
@ Orange Seats: a blend could actually be a good place to start as they tend to be more balanced. JW makes some very good blends; not Red Label, but Black Label is OK, Gold Label is very good, and Blue Label is just amazing.
Talisker 18 has been rumored to heal wounds and make the blind see. As for Laddie, have you had the Peat ? Soooooo good. Haven't tried Infinity yet, have had the 12 and Rocks.
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I truly believe that anyone can drink whisky, though it's acquired. I started drinking scotch because I watched Swingers one too many times. I would drink well scotch and soda at weddings, then after some time I started drinking it on the rocks, and now drink it neat.
As far as getting started, stick with a lighter whisky. The Canadians are smooth. If Scotch, Macallan 12, Highland Park 12. I would avoid the smokey single malts (Islay), although my wife says they taste like bacon and will sip off my glass. There are some serious Bourbon men on this board, I defer to their expertise on that.
If you go with Scotch, mixing with soda is palatable and a good place to start.
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Showoff.
And where's the invite?
I'd invite you to my party but it's nothing special. Just the far right table at the OTB, an empty wallet and a grown man crying.
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Syrup. And isn't that what started the whole "line of convo?" Damned syrup.
(If it's simple syrup, and it's a mint julep, and it's late Spring, I'm in.)
.........especially if there's ladies in hats. Oh and Uncle Mo is there.
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Was more of an Oban guy when I was drinking Scotch.
Oban is nice. As for bourbon, MM is so good. If I indulge in the dirty south, it's Noah's Mill. Unfortunately, from drinking the peaty malts of Islay my palate is shot. I'm a panzy when it comes to bourbon now. Some are way too sugary for me.
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Next time I'm headed to a Scotch-drinking friend's Christmas or birthday party, I'll look for it!
That said, this is a complaint thread. I have plenty of Maker's on hand, but I can't drink it because I have to pretend I'm smart in the morning. Dammit.
I'll play. I too have a cabinet of the good stuff, yet the wife is out and I'm watching the 2 munchkins. Last time I checked, a passed out drunk dad = CPS phone call.
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Same goes for wine and cigars, BTW. I have had Scotch out of $250 bottles. It still tastes like dirt. I also have had really expensive bourbon, and it tastes no better than a bottle that costs $60. There's a lot of "hey, I'll pay for that label!" in that industry, just like with wine and cigars. You reach a limit, and beyond that, only .01% (and I MEANT THAT, mindful of the "percentage" thread) knows the difference.
Sorry for the double post, but Eleven, you are absolutely right. However, I do say there are really expensive bottles of Scotch that are in a level all their own. My favorite scotch: Ardbeg 10, $44 a bottle
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I'll say this, if you aren't full of fecal matter then I don't know how the hell you guys do it. Can't imagine a $150 bottle gets you twice the juice that a $75 bottle gets you.
Can't bring myself about to pull the plug on one of those super-mega-premium bottles.
Have you tried it? It's a different beast all together. We chipped in and bought a $300 bottle of Lagavulin 21 for the holidays last year. For aging in an oak cask for 21 years, you'd think it was smooth. It was smooth alright, right up to the point where we realized that it was 130 proof. I've never experienced a kick in the chest like that.
As for my comments, I'm really not trying to be a dick, just stirring the pot. This is fantastic, go to a hockey forum to talk whisky. And if those boys have that kind of collection in college, I GUARANTEE that they will be drinking high octane in the 3 figures a decade from now.
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RIP Mr. Jackson.......You were the master of the Belgian Whites with an unrivaled acumen for the Angel's Share. :cry: