Der Jaeger
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11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
All I am saying is that I don't think we know what the lockdown v no lockdown impact was. That's it and I think we should wait until touting one way over another until we do know. A lockdown for NY might have made more sense than a lockdown for SC for various reasons.
Replying to this and the above:
All true. Everywhere locked down. SC did from March to July. I remember driving to work on the interstate, usually packed, with nearly no one on the highway. And I agree, the lockdown saved lives.
Two points of contention:
- NYS is too NYS centric. Read my other note, above. Were lessons extracted from NYC to the rest of the country? Sure. But, the number 1 source of treatment and prevention data came from South Korea. They are the among the world's leaders in disease control. Treatments were being shared at the US DOD level in February, since US military doctors are intertwined with the RoK system. The bell curve associated with the build up and regression of COVID-19 is named after a US military disease control doctor, who was the top doctor for the US in the RoK.
- NYS could've let up back in the fall. DoD has mass data from movements and transitions, to include letting initial entry training Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, Airmen, leave basic training and go home for the holidays for two weeks. We had a minor uptick in positive COVID cases, which was gone in two weeks.
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3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
Yes...the mortality rate is high in NYS due to circumstance. It was the first place to get a major outbreak in the US thanks to the wrong people flying into their airports and not LA or Chicago or Atlanta. NOT through any real fault of their own. In fact, a large part of the reason other places have lower mortality is due to the work done in NYS hospitals with no information on what to do, no set procedures or protocols, no drugs to treat it, no real understanding of what it actually was and a lack of ventilators. All of that stuff had to be learned on the fly, taught to all the hospitals and staff and then implemented as part of updated protocols and procedures...all while in the midst of unprecedented numbers of patients flooding in and staff dealing with exhaustion.
So to be quite honest, the statistics you bandy about are meaningless to use in the way you are trying to use them because they lack any context. This is a perfect scenario for showing how you can show anything you want with statistics when you have no understanding or context of the situation. Of course those other places will have lower mortality rates...they got to use all of the knowledge NYS created from nothing that they had no ability to use for much of it.
So, interesting but a very NYS centric point of view. The first lessons from COVID-19 prevention and treatment were coming from South Korea. The Department of Defense has a large presence there, and when COVID-19 hit, the prevention lessons and treatments came from them first, not NYC or NYS hospitals. The DOD was working with their epidemic system weeks before the virus hit the US hard. The RoK had over 4K cases before the US hit 1K confirmed cases.
Many of these lessons where passed through the DoD system. We were briefed on treatment and prevention in last February. Far before the US had reacted at all.
Javits Center is another story. I've read most of the reports online, and they are all to one degree or another inaccurate. I can't get into the actual details, but the hospital workers in NYC, who are truly heroes, were done no favors by the NYC leaders.
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Just now, LGR4GM said:
279 compared to 179
That's not great considering NY got hit first and harder than anywhere else while also compounding things with their dumb nursing home plan. I wouldn't be throwing out 19th highest mortality rate per capita is some giant triumph.
True about SC.
But NYS didn't have the second highest mortality rate due to the nursing home issue, solely. The handling of the NYC outbreak early on was partially preventable. NYC officials lack of proper use of the Javits Center was entirely their decision, not a Department of Defense issue.
NY didn't get hit first. Washington state got hit first.
My point: NYS has had some of the strictest lockdown rules in the US, and is really no better for it.
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If Adams sends Hall (with retention) to Florida for Lundell, all is forgiven. Florida would never do that, though.
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Hoping it's to Boston (with retention) for DeBrusk.
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19 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
Oh I think the state gov is dumbasses most times but I feel that way about most state govs. Vaccine rollout suddenly got a lot better in March, probably because they had money.
19 hours ago, matter2003 said:The initial COVID situation was not done well, but truthfully they were working with no real data as to what to do. Once they figured it out, we kind of became a model for how to control COVID spread for many months through late spring into the summer and fall...there was no excuse at all for those other states to have the outbreaks they did. They got to see everything NYS did that worked on a large scale and they largely chose to ignore it.
I work at the national level for the DOD, in recruiting and training new Soldiers, and we track this stuff closely. NYS isn't the ideal spot you think it is. NYS has the second worst mortality rate among US States, only trailing New Jersey, and closely followed by Massachusetts. We ask the kids that come in where they are from, and NYS has been one of the hot spots for a while.
The reason that I cite SC is because the state has basically been open since the summer, and rates about the middle of mortality rates for the states (slightly higher due to an early outbreak). The SC governor never put the restrictions in place that NYS did, and got a better outcome.
Vaccination distribution here is on the same pace as NYS, with similar rates.
NYS can cite the outbreak in NYC at the beginning as well, leading to a higher mortality rate. But I know the people who set up and ran the Javits Center. That was a self-inflicted situation.
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7 minutes ago, #freejame said:
SC opened to all 3/31 and nobody that I know that wants one is having any issues getting an appointment the same or next day. Most people I know are getting their vaccines. The government of NYS is, and will always be, a problem for everything. I’ve lived happily under the government in red states and blue states, but never NYS.
Agree. I also live in SC, but have lived in both red states and blue states. NYS is the problem. If the Sabres were in SC, or even NC, they could have the whole organization vaccinated by now.
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8 hours ago, nfreeman said:
I think that’s true if Carolina will pay in the same ballpark as what Rod can get by leaving, but he’s not going to take, say $2MM x 3 years just to stay there when he can probably get a guaranteed $18MM or so elsewhere.
No doubt. But I don't see Condon low balling RB'A. He's been with the organization for nearly two decades in some capacity. Which is why I think you're seeing the push from Carolina to sign him now. If Condon can get RB'A to re-up his contract now at a team friendly number, that prevents him from getting to the point to where he's competing with Pegulabucks.
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3 hours ago, nfreeman said:
Just for poops and giggles -- if it is Karmanos plus Rutherford...
Kevyn Adams was with the Hurricanes from 2002 to 2007.
Karmanos was with the Hurricanes from 1998 to 2013.
Rutherford was with the Hurricanes from 1994 to 2014.
Rod Brind'amour, probably the most highly regarded young coach in the NHL, and maybe the Chuck Norris of NHL coaches, which is EXACTLY what the Sabres are dying for, whose contract is up after this season, and who is one of the lowest-paid coaches in the NHL, and who works for one of the biggest cheapskates in the NHL, has been with Hurricanes since 1999.
Oh, and by the way? Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane, who have delivered unto TP an elite NFL franchise, are both alumni of Carolina's NFL team.
The Sabres might not get him, but if CDD is right, and 2 real guys are joining the Sabres, and if those 2 guys are Karmanos and Rutherford -- don't even try to tell me that Rod isn't #1 with a bullet on their list, and that they don't have carte blanche from TP to pay whatever it costs to get him.
It might happen.
I don’t see RB’A leaving Carolina. His wife is from there, and he’s rooted pretty deeply in the community.
Is There a Path Forward for Eichel and the Sabres?
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I do not want to trade Eichel. But I also think Eichel asking for a trade is only a matter of time.
If Eichel came out of the conversations with Adams with that kind of interview, then things aren't good and likely not getting better.
No need to sit on Eichel and make him eat the contract. Just move on. The core of the team isn't that far from winning with goaltending and a few more pieces.