Gabrielor
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Just gimme any kind of real news today. The organization needs resolution on this to move forward.
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47 minutes ago, dudacek said:
Except the veteran centre was awful and the high-scoring winger couldn't score.
The verdict on Hall, Risto, Reinhart, Eichel and the long-term build are yet be determined.
Moves you agree with (I like most of them too) aren't the same thing as "doing well."
He will have "done well" if the new core he is building shows its quality and the team starts contending again.
I consider it well in contrast to the possible alternatives, of which there are only 1. Keep Reinhart and Risto and go again
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7 minutes ago, nucci said:
what has he done well?
Adding a still-producing veteran center and high scoring winger to give the Eichel core one last shot.
Recouping what assets he could for Hall (free money), Risto (great deal), Reinhart (sucked at see Reinhart go, but he wasn't re-signing). Also, being patient on a Jack deal when it's clear he's been lowballed.
Committing to a longer term build rather than attempt #3 on the Eichel core.
He hasn't been perfect (goaltending), but this idea he's done nothing well a la Botterill is foolish.
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38 minutes ago, Thorny said:
We have been here before. Last time, however, we rushed it, and also drafted horribly.
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Ristolainen Zadarov Reinhart Compher Hurley Bailey Lemieux Cornel Karabacek
That's a sad gathering...
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Just give me a center in 2022.
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5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I see we're evolving from the Sabres and Adams being incompetent buffoons to masterful mind-controlling propagandists. Or can they be both?
I'd say it's a pretty obvious and rudimentary job at best. They aren't playing 4D Chess. It's ye-olde-book-of-marketing. Stop promoting Eichel, start telling fans every chance you get how lucky we are the Pegulas are here.
They're still idiots past and present tense when it comes to running a hockey franchise. We'll see if the future changes...Adams has done well so far. The Eichel trade will tell us more.
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1 minute ago, Thorny said:
Determining where the truth falls (my money is on somewhere in between) gets difficult, I just hope fans are aware of what they are being sold.
Adams, in calculating fashion, wormtongued the entire front office behind the scenes. Similarly, a focused, calculating tale has been consciously crafted and sold to fans since the final day of the regular season and the whole thing was intricately mapped out, of that I have no doubt.
On one hand, it's pretty clear what we're being sold. Adams, while a good guy, comes off as a massive sycophant in always over-praising Terry and Kim.
On the other, it also can be interpreted somewhat as the Pegula's dealing with a brat, admittedly that they helped create, by memory holing all Eichel-boosting.
I think both parties failed the fans, but we're stuck with one...
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Ruotsalainen at center is a look good.
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From every press release and Sabres team media output since the end of last season, you'd think Jack Eichel doesn't exist.
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2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
Jack Eichel is currently in Buffalo.
Perhaps he's finally trying to accommodate Buffalo and help in upping his value to get traded.
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34 minutes ago, Brawndo said:
Chad D purposed a three way trade The Sabres, Rangers and Vegas.
I cannot see VGK giving up Krebs in this deal
Rangers receive: Jack Eichel
Golden Knights receive: Mika Zibanejad (Sabres retain 50%)
Sabres receive: Peyton Krebs, Lucas Elvenes, Filip Chytil, Braden Schneider, and two conditional first-round picks (one from each team).
Said the same thing.
Adams needs to close a Vegas-only deal with Krebs, so I can start handing out middle fingers to NYR fans.
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Another great day for an Eichel-Krebs/stuff trade.
If I were a Knights fan, I would do this immediately.
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1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said:
This is me since July started at least.
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Nothing like teaching your dmen that the stretch passing is the only zone exit possibility in the AHL first.
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They can, but this year and probably next are going to be very bad for attendance.
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8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
We have to do this anyways. I'm sorry everyone but this team is a shitshow and it will take multiple drafts over multiple years to dig our way out. It sucks but that is the reality. Getting Krebs would help for sure but 2022 is going to be another really really important draft regardless.
Accident caused by incompetence... so like the Sabres.
No doubt.
Still, Krebs(hypothetically),Dahlin,Cozens will be nothing like 1C Girgensons, 1D Ristolainen, etc.
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16 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
You listed 2, 3 if we want to count krebs. But that isn't point because the point is you need 5 and the supporting parts to make it work, which we are not close to.
I am well aware of what you said, I can read. Wish you could, maybe Taro taught you how. Would explain a lot. "The exact type of thinking... good enough" was the sentence. It was not " you said this and I know you said this and here I am quoting it". But again you went to the Taro school of reading, which is not good.
A core of 4-5 does not matter unless you have the underlying draft and development strategy to augment. You want proof? See the Buffalo Sabres 2014-2021.
The whole point of everything I said could be condensed to two sentences: "If the Eichel trade returns Krebs, we'll have Krebs, Cozens, and Dahlin all in the NHL next year, which is what I hope the future core we build around contains, along with Power. It should go without saying that this isn't complete, but a good start, and something to build around right now, rather than wait for 2022/2023 picks before beginning to support this group."
Thanks for the linguistic journey though, and I guess the insults. Enjoy your break.
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54 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Krebs isn't on the team and a core of Cozens and Dahlin is the exact type of thinking that had us get Reinhart and Eichel and go "yea this is good enough"
Draft and develop.
What thinking is that? Your core is always 4-5 guys big, even on champions.
Never said 'this is good enough', so that's an invention of your interpretation.
Also, this started with a hypothetical where Krebs was acquired, so yes, Krebs is hypothetically on the team.
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8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Everyone?
Quinn, Peterka, Kosakov, Poltapov, Rosen, all even toss in Huglen.
We just went through what to me is essentially the first draft of the rebuild.
The core pieces I'm comfortable calling core pieces, is what I should've said. Dahlin Cozens Krebs*.
Your list is more the potential core pieces and supplemental pieces that are indeed 1-4 years away, depending on who we're talking about.
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8 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said:
It definitely is not. Development is more crucial to this rebuild. A Jack trade has a max of about 4 players that can become a part of the team coming back, more likely that about 3 actually make the team at some point.
Our top 6 is going to need 4 of Kisakov, Poltalov, Quinn, R2, Rosen, and JJP to become top 6ers, and that isn’t exactly likely.
Power could become an average second pair Dman
Dahlin could stay where he is and never be a true 1D
The goalies in our system may never become NHL caliber goalies.
Even if we get a top center prospect, they would still need a lot of good development to become a 1C
We're talking about developmental timeline. Getting a player who's NHL ready vs. pick(s) that are 2-3 years away 100% effects the timeline.
Of course the youth needs to develop, but Krebs is going to develop as a key NHL piece faster than any 2022/2023 1st. Eichel's return effects whether this is a 2-3 year process, or a 4-6 year process.
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10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
I wish this were true.
It 100% is. If we get Krebs, pining for a mandatory Wright/Lambert/Savoie pick isn't under nearly as much pressure. Also, he'd play this year. Everyone but Power would be on the team in terms of an top end young talent.
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3 minutes ago, Thorny said:
I think we'll find that out real soon.
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All for it, but one key thing needs to be added: Skill
Hardworking, Relentless, those will always play well in Buffalo, but if there's no skill to go with it, then it's just the Hasek Sabres without Hasek.
Fortunately, we did seem to draft a lot of skill too.
Rasmus Dahlin signs 3 years 6 Million AAV Contract with Sabres
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Should've went shorter if he didn't want to go long.