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I don't think Watkins asked to be traded and I have to ignore your gratuitous commentary about the coach because he hasn't coached a game yet and you have some sort of weird inherent bias against him.
What star QB was Watkins going to play with if the Bills didn't bring back Taylor? And didn't he spend a lot of the offseason working with Taylor, indicating that he liked playing with him? Is Jared Goff really his preference?
The Bills are the ones who did not pick up Watkins 5th year option. So what Watkins wanted was irrelevant...UNTIL Sean messed up and ceded team control of the asset.
So to answer your question, the QB the Bills would have drafted in 2017 or even in the 2018 draft that everyone is putting all their hopes in.
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Such as Watkins. He never was going to re-sign here.
Yes and no. I did say Watkins asked to be traded but that was because the Pegulas hired this backwards looking coach. Bringing back Tyrod was just so dumb on many levels. Hey star WRs want a QB and Buffalo refused to improve the position for year after year.
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No apology necessary but appreciated. My comments on total rebuild weren't directed entirely toward your position but to those advocating complete rebuild.
You said, "Top 10 picks are still a gamble and completely scorching your roster will take years to redo." And we are in agreement there. No reason to blow up your roster when a prudent rebuild could be one year down and back to a better position next year.
What I advocated was getting a top QB prospect in 2017 and getting rid of players that would not be there when the team was contending such as Wood and Williams. I thought the Bills were 2 great drafts away from being a legit team. But now the Bills are at least 3 great drafts from competing with the big boys. Will the new guys get that much time?
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Been saving Man in the High Castle Season 2 for fall. For some reason, I missed it when season 2 came out. Also completely ready for Stranger Things.
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Mohawk. Cheap drinks and local bands.
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You make plenty of assumptions. Nobody is trading more for Watkins then a high 2nd round pick if he has another year on his deal.
As for Gilmore, that didn't work for Carolina and they ended up looking petty for tying up Norman until most teams spent their money.
As for taking on Darius' cap hit, if they so choose they will have plenty of room to absorb hit as cap is expected to continue to rise and the Bills are already in pretty good shape next year.
As for the rest, I still feel there is no benefit to completely gutting roster. Football is not like other sports. Top 10 picks are still a gamble and completely scorching your roster will take years to redo.
Hey Tom, like to apologize for my Andy Reid post last night.You have been a civil poster and my post did not come off the way I wanted.
My position is not for a complete rebuild, I was just giving an example of moves that would indicate a rebuild was taking place. My own position was a bit more nuanced.
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So one move?
Who do you think Beane should sell then?
Tyrod Taylor, not resigned.
Kyle Williams, not resigned
Eric Wood traded, Groy starts
Shady, trade him
Hughes, trade him
Gilmore franchised and sold for a pick
No to picking up Ducasse, Holmes, and Dimarco
This is closer to what I would expect a rebuild should look like
I also would have picked up 5th year option on Watkins and seen if I could get more out of him. No point in selling low.
Not given away picks to trade up to fill needs such as Zay and Dawkins
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This also raises an interesting question -- i.e. not "when" they decided this, but have they in fact decided this?
I don't think trading Sammy, Darby and Ragland necessarily means that they have decided to sell off assets as a rebuilding move.
The Darby and Ragland trades could simply have been unloading guys whom they felt didn't fit their schemes.
The Watkins move could have been either (i) they didn't want to commit huge $$ to a guy with Sammy's injury history or (ii) they didn't want to commit huge $$ to WR before they knew they had the right QB.
I think it's most likely that the Darby and Ragland moves were designed to make the team better and were scheme-driven. I'm not sure about the Sammy move, but if it was about not paying for a WR until they have a QB, then it's kinda of a piece with the Darby and Ragland moves -- and my biggest concern about McD and BB is that each of these moves (as well as some of their draft-day trades) smacks of being too clever by half.
In other words, it's too clever to dump good young players because they don't fit your scheme, instead of adapting your scheme to the talents of your players. It's too clever to dump a superstar WR because you are trying to time your WR cap space to coincide with year 2 or year 3 of some future QB who may or may not materialize. It's too clever to give up draft picks because you think the guys you've identified in rounds 2 and 3 are sleepers.
I'm not sure if it would be too clever to dump Dareus, but it might be.
So while as I've said previously I like a lot of what I see from McD and BB, I am concerned that they might be missing the forest for the trees and accordingly we might be looking at yet another debacle.
We'll see.
I understand Ragland and Darby. I called for trading Ragland as soon as McD was hired because I knew he was no 4-3 mike in a McD defense where the linebacker needs to cover lots of ground. Darby also makes sense in that he did not play zone well enough. Many corners can do man or zone but not both. Luckily Tre White can do both.
I also agree that there is no rebuild. It's a bit of both and it comes down to talent. This not acquiring talent and building a team instead sounds like the road Chip Kelly and Josh McDaniels took. Coaches need talented players and if they don't have them they will fail.
Looks like the Jets envied our moves
Why is it masterful when a GM of 15 years and with one Cup appearance does this but when Beane does it it's terrible? And Darcy had a ton of experience, unlike Beane
Getting a 1st for Gaustad. But Darcy did not sell young players. He sold veterans nearing FA.
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This raises another interesting question -- how much rope do McD and BB think they have? And how much do they actually have? Surely they're aware that TP has shown a fairly short fuse with coaches and GMs of both of his franchises -- do they not think they are at risk of the same fate if the team delivers 2 crappy seasons in a row? Especially if Mahomes turns out to be a star and/or if Dareus does the same for another team?
I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of those meetings! And the data supports your statement. The Pegulas only gave their last 2 coaches 2 years or less. Darcy Regier sold them on a rebuild and started selling off pieces and was canned in the middle of it (even though he was doing a masterful job in selling assets and acquiring picks). Tim Murray only got 2 drafts with his people at the helm as he took over the last place team right before 2014 draft.
I think that the team cannot look unprepared or sloppy. That was what the fans were sold with McD and if his teams do not at least compete effectively (even while taking losses) I suspect it could be 2 years instead of the normal 3 years that new coaches get in the NFL. The other thing I want to know is when did they decide to sell assets? When McD first got here every move looked like a push to the playoffs and even his draft looked like a short term filling needs affair.
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Where is that speculation?
I heard it discussed on the Instigators as I was driving. And again, I noted it was speculation but it did seem like a reasonable guess as to where both parties started the negotiation. I mean if Eichel wanted only Drai money you think the deal would have been done a long time ago.
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I don't think they need a stud. I think you need a group of 4 players that are roughly interchangeable. Scandella, McCabe, Risto might be 3. Baloo and Antipin have the chance to fill out that foursome.
You don't need an elite #1 D to compete and make the playoffs but it sure helps win a Cup. Very interested to see if Risto can continue to get better.
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Dreger says the birdie is wrong, no deal yet.
.@DarrenDreger on Eichel's contract: "I'm now getting the sense that he's OK starting the season without a contract extension in place."
If true, can we surmise he's requesting McDavid's rate?
The speculation is that Eichel's side wants near McDavid money and the Buffalo mgmt started with an offer around Draisatl. Hopefully, they can get this done before the year starts and meet somewhere in the middle.
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Especially when handicapped by $14M.
Don't forget the more than 8 million in dead cap for Tyrod as well.
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Let's say the Bills part way with Dareus. I get that he is not a model citizen and is a headache. But Buffalo would then have a bottom 2 roster in the NFL. Digging out of that and just getting back to .500 might be a task that McDermott and Beane never achieve here.
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The fact that you don't understand how condescending this post is makes me smile. Sure dude, disagreement and personal attack here aren't comparable
Damn you! :lol:
Actually, I don't like that post. The reason is not because I attacked Tom but because I didn't match with a more conversational sentence.
I also regret using the word "dude". When Tom is here I will apologize.
And now I am done discussing personal issues anyone has with me. I don't want to be drawn further into unnecessary tangents.
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Funny how personal attacks are this common here.
The fact that you don't understand how good with QB's Andy Reid is makes me smile. Sure dude, Dennison and Mcdermott are comparable.
He said Andy Reid is no great QB coach and I disagreed. Disagreement is not a personal attack.
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Wishful thinking really
Funny how personal attacks are this common here.
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You'll go back to TBD once hockey starts and your sht has finally gotten old
Another bad prediction.
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Nicely done. I've been trying to put my finger on what exactly is so off-putting about an unacceptably high percentage of Jeff's posts, and you nailed it.
Liger's "mansplaining" description is also pretty apt.
Jeff -- you need to turn it down from the current 9.5 to about a 5, and you need to stop repeatedly congratulating yourself about being right about a rookie QB based on his first preaseason. It's bothering too many people.
Good point. Plus the Mahomes stuff isn't relevant. Done.
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If you walked into the draft thread and started mansplaning why we should have taken Vilardi or Tippett over Casey, that, that would be fun.
I did not want Mittlestadt. But I also never watched his high school games. I scouted the NFL QB's so I am far more confident there.
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It's this. This I know things that you don't, therefore my opinions are superior mantra that makes everyone hate you.
We aren't pro Bills or Tyrod fanatics. We're normal people with opinions just as valuable as yours. Which reminds me, opinions are like ######, everyone has one and they all stink.
Dude! Please back away from that young man's package and close your mouth.
Whoa there. I was told over and over that Patrick Mahomes can't make throws from the pocket. Excuse me if I enjoy watching those clips.
You won't be here long enough for that
Why is that?
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You are so funny. I can find clips of Reid talking about Kolb and Folks the same way. What makes him a QB guru? His GM picked McNabb and he's spent the last ten years looking for his "next" one. Maybe he finally got it right, maybe not but so far PM hasn't done anything that countless flame outs before him have done.
The fact that you don't understand how good with QB's Andy Reid is makes me smile. Sure dude, Dennison and Mcdermott are comparable.
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QB guru dicusses his next protegee.
Training camp questions #2: What do we have in Zemgus Girgensons?
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This is my best case scenario. A young power forward. We shall see soon enough whether this is wishful thinking.