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What that means hoss, (even if i misstated it, or if it was simply misread) is that (in ones mind, which is the place expectations occur) one would deduce that two girls following him to his house from a bar, in the middle of the night that "SOMETHING" would happen... notice.. SOMETHING and SEX are not synonymous... What I'm saying is not that KANE is endowed the right to sex due to the circumstances of the encounter but that he is within the confines of reason presented to him by the world we live in to except it...Expect: to look forward to; regard as likely to happen; anticipate theoccurrence or the coming of:.. Especially within the context of the larger point, there are no despicable implications. Again you are twisting my words to fit an idea you and others have formed even tho i explained my intention over and over again. (Insert Hume Quote) And actually man... You are attacking me, and just because you can cleverly devise a way to wrap it doesn't make it civil, or adult like. I strongly disagree with treating people the way that I and another commenter have been treated... Marginalizing them, refuting their opinions without proper consideration, and just plain throwing stones, using whatever they see fit as ammunition even if it doesn't make any sense or has no relevance.. Who are you telling to be an adult? Im merely responding to insults, and haven't resorted in my rebuttals until I became overwhelmed with irrational and unfair scrutiny.

Oh man thats rich. Please delineate the despicable "things" so I can own them... or you. Whats chickensh-- behavior is making accusations without substantiating them properly, judging someones character based on your ignorance and misunderstanding of their intentions, and in your waning attempts at imagining a modicum of power, deeming me unfit to stand in your arena.... Lets play this out so you can understand it. Heres what just happened: Newcomer : Heres my opinion. Villager 1: No your wrong, your a bad person, Villager 2: Yea hes wrong (hissing noises)..he said jesus isn't the son of god and that we are a church of idols Newcomer: No, actually i was just trying to state an opinion based on a comment that.... Villager 3: BLASPHEMY! NO YOU SAID WHAT WE HEARD AND YOU SAID IT BECAUSE YOU THINK THE WAY WE KNOW YOU DO. Newcomer: Thats pretty excessive, I'm just saying..... Villager 4: He kinda reminds me of that other guy .. you know that guy that was here Newcomer: WHOA are you serious? Well thanks for the chat anyways guys Villager 5: We don't take kindly to your kind around here... (kicks newcomer out village.. possibly literally) Truly, and Utterly Disgusting. Can you admit that your commenting on people speculating about rape scenarios for fun?

In closing, I hope they resolve the Kane situation quickly and decisively. If he is found guilty by a jury of his peers I will join the stake burning and promoter casting him asunder. If not, well... Thank you all for the invigorating convos.... I must return to the bat cave (lab)... fighting crime (E.Coli) .. awaits..

How quaint.... you are right tho that relative to the infinite the material world is without purpose.. can't argue with ya...

Seriously. Easy to hide behind derision. Couldn't agree more. Total demonization of disharmony with hive mentality.

Are you insinuating that I've been a user of this site in the past?

I can't sense your level of sincerity through text, but please, elaborate.

Seriously tho, AGREE, too bad they didnt grab tomas hertl in the place of MG... man would that have been a sweet draft.

Amazing how ones proclivities can warp his perception until it does not even slightly resemble reality. Your making assumptions about me, my life and what I feel based off of a comment that you misread. Good on you bud. Thank you for submitting an opinion and not including (explicitly or otherwise) character attacks.

Your twisting my words, thats not what I said, its slanting, its out of context and its irrelevant to the point. But your right, I should relent, and will soon, because rationality has clearly left this forum.

yea an SS moderator.. That sounds scary.. and anti-Semitic

Her demeanor at a bar ( in my most recent post) would only be a suggestive tool for investigators to take into account when examining the whole of the evidence in the absence of something concrete. If similar circumstantial evidence mounts up, i.e. she was throwing herself at him, has a history of manipulating, misbehavior , found to have made false claims etc, and in the end all the detectives have to go on is heresay, then it matters (in the pursuit of truth) because it becomes one persons word over another. No one said they knew how she was behaving at the bar. These are all what ifs, thats my whole point.

Im speaking from a place of moderation and caution and getting blasted as if I had held the girl down and watched. Just because you can mask your feelings with tonal adjustments does not eradicate their existence. But just so you understand Mattpie lets recap: Weave: She was responsible because she went with a friend. Tank: No, i disagree, thats not responsible. And i think a lot of framing is going on here on top of some hypocrisy. End scene..... WAIT INCOMING posters x5 : your disgusting, your saying rape is ok, how do you not understand that its not ok to force yourself on someone. Need i continue?

We clearly aren't having a conversation. First bold: It matters within the context of a simple conversation between two people that you are not considering (of course) to fit your point. Second Bold: Speak English General Thought: If you don't think your inferring or defense against anyone speaking in a way that even remotely resembles "not exactly what you wanna hear" is proof of your decision than I suggest some serious introspection. But he did share it.. With everyone.

Case in point.

Your manipulating unknowns and treating them as facts to suit your cause, like many here, and so this isn't a debate its more like a witch hunt. As far as Im aware, we don't know her age, her behavior/demeanor at the club (definitively, and the credible rumors we do have suggest she was flagrantly flirting), her personality, her past, where those bite marks came from, what the rape kit revealed, etc... mostly all of the circumstances of the incident,... and you have all already convicted Patrick Kane of rape in your minds and you are ardently and blindly defending any and all suggestion (no matter how reasonable) to the contrary with no regard for rationality or due course. To top this off, and ill say it ONE MORE TIME, I DIDNT SAY RAPE IS OK OR THAT SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING RAPED IF IT HAPPENED, and BEFORE THIS I WASNT EVEN COMMENTING ON WHETHER THE RAPE OCCURRED OR NOT.. I'm just saying lets slow down and wait for the story to unfold before we hang the guy. That is why we have this thing in our society called due process.. you know... innocent until proven guilty... because peoples emotional attachments and sensitivities (no matter how personal valid) cause them to make knee jerk assumptions and THAT is a dangerous, antiquated way of thinking/ being.

My posts had nothing to do with rape. I said it 3 times now. I was responding to a poster regarding responsibility and then mentioned hume quote and the blatant hypocrisy. Mostly im trying to convey my distaste with flagrant disregard for logic and reasonable consideration in favor of biases of the group or self.

Clearly if anyone even mentions the young womans role in the events they are blaspheming, and most likely rapists themselves. Please elaborate.

I Was it found that she wasnt a minor afterall? Then you misunderstood me.I nevet once claimed she wasnt raped or that it was her fault. Just refuting other comments claims.

I think modern rules of engagement suggest man should expect something if two random girls follow him to his place in the middle of th night after hanging all over him at a bar. This is to say nothing about statutory rape (which if the case assigns guilt without any care for circumstances) or whether she was raped, or her culpability in the matter at all. But she was certainly not being responsible. If you could watch a video of the enitre incident, from the meet, to the drinking, (underage?) to the to the hanging all over him, to the willing and intentional following back to his place, and that was your kin.. Tell me you wouldnt be infuriated with them for how IRRESPONSIBLE their behavior was. Furthermore, who knows what was said between the two parties? We live in a more scandolous (to put it gently) world than people would like to believe, especially those who havent experienced its truly darker sides. Right now we have accusations and circumstantial evidence so lets chillax on crowning this mystery teen Ms. Buffalo 2016 until we get the facts. Seeing things for how you prefer them as opposed to how they ought to be is a human epidemic and casting aspersions wildly without proper consideration of an opposing thought is a cardinal symptom.

Sorry u see my posts as pollution. Thats pretty rude

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I expect Zemgus to score 80 goals this year on a line with Ennis and Stafford. Stafford poised to make a huge jump offensively as hes been playing with such scrubs lately. Zemgus was drafted in the 4th round but has really shown his chops. Really excited to see what Ennis can do with girgenson in the backfield. Probably at least 120 points. Ennis worked out i guess and is now 6'1 220, amazing stuff! Im soooo excited and I know that the Sabres will finish 1st in the East with ROR centering Kane and Toews..... Its so nice to have Buffalo natives on the team, (represent WUT WUT!) I hope we sign Nolan to another extension as he really knows how to teach grit and i believe that being hard to play against is how you win games All in all, Id say we win the cup, but only if Zadorov and Ristolainen can play to their top 2 potential... If not, Id say we lose in 7 games to the Seahawks....

I was actually trying to add a bit of levity, provoke some pseudo silliness, but this thread has escalated with other users becoming agitated and aggressive so I'm gunna go watch Commando.... Peace out Col. Matrix Oh and this

Thanks. Its cool lol I'm probably one of the worst spellerds on earth. Autocorrect: the great equalizer, replacing time.