Curt
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jfc. You know it’s the offseason when we have multiple multi-paragraph posts debating one single hockey play from 44 years ago.
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1 hour ago, Pimlach said:
He was the youngest team captain in the NHL at 22. Months
Wow. That’s got to be a record.
I can relate. My daughter is 22 months and she basically runs the ship here too.
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On 7/11/2023 at 4:50 PM, sweetlou said:
K'Andre Miller signs 2 years at AAV of $3.872.
Makes the Samuelsson signing look better.
It does? I think Miller is way better than Samuelsson. Seems about right, verging on a bargain for Miller. His next deal is going to be huge.
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Anyone watch The Bear on Hulu?
I’m going to get around to that soon. Everyone says that it’s great.
Also saw first preview for Dune: Part 2. Comes out November 3rd.
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Brian Campbell and Ryan Miller.
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31 minutes ago, French Collection said:
This is what I’m getting at. You are saying their prospect pool is better because they have Bedard. If their entire pool gets 2000 points in their careers while the Sabres pool gets 3000 theirs is still better because they have Bedard?
It’s a pool of players and the Sabres depth is as good or better than anyone else’s.
Having a Bedard is great to bring people out of their seats but I’m at a point where 3 scoring lines give you a better chance of winning. McDavid can score 150 points in a season but the team can’t go far in the playoffs due to lack of depth and goaltending.
All I’m saying is that it is relatively easy to acquire players that can fill out a middle six compared to how hard it is to get a player like Bedard.
For example, the Blackhawks could definitely build out a wonderful group of middle six forwards over the next few years, but Buffalo ain’t getting a Bedard over the next few years.
The Oilers issues aren’t because of McDavid, I’m pretty certain of that.
I get it, the Sabres have a lot of good prospects. It’s tough. Maybe the Blackhawks shouldn’t be #1 ahead of Buffalo, but it’s close and they should definitely be higher than 6th.
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54 minutes ago, French Collection said:
I know your point is star power but since we don’t have Bedard I am looking at the big picture.
Let’s say Bedard has a great HOF career and ends up with 1300 points.
Benson has a decent career as a top 6 winger and ends up at 650 points. Kulich and Savoie may be a notch below and end up between 400-500 points. None of these guys were elite but contributed more than Bedard. Those three may end up as a solid second line for a few years.
Bedard is a crown jewel but it takes a team to win. We’ll see how Chicago builds around him. We know how Edmonton has done with 2 of the top players in the world.
You can’t compare one guys production to the production of 3 guys and just call it even. Come on. What about the other two guys who will be playing along with Bedard?
Let’s say you have Bedard, you can then sign, draft, or trade for guys to play on your middle 6 lines. Yes. That’s kind of baseline competence.
Let’s say you have several good middle 6 guys, can you then sign, draft, or trade for a Bedard? Not impossible but pretty unlikely.
Bedard is more valuable.
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9 minutes ago, JohnC said:
Vegas got Eichel in a trade. I consider him to be an elite player. In my view, the return on Eichel was more than fair. What it did for the Sabres is add two players, one of which (Tuch) turned out to be a high-end player. The dealing of Eichel also internally reconfigured the roster in that it elevated Tage's role, and with the addition of Tuch contributed to building a quality first line. I'm not fully disputing your premise about the difficulty in acquiring an elite player. But in the Buffalo/Vegas trade there was a multiplier effect for Buffalo that balanced out the trade of our star player.
Bedard has the potential to be better than Eichel.
Eichel is very good, one of the better centers in the NHL, but what I really meant by elite is a no doubt top 10 player in the league.
I really really have no interest in having an Eichel debate.
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19 hours ago, French Collection said:
Kind of like the game, one guy does not make a team, or a pool. I don’t know much about Chicago’s pool but Buffalo’s has some high end guys across multiple positions.
One Connor Bedard is worth more than 4-5 Kulich/Savoie/R Johnson/Rosen’s.
Would you trade 4-5 middle 6 forwards or bottom 4 defensemen for Connor McDavid?
Yes, roster depth is important, but there are several ways to find/acquire/build roster depth. There is really no way to acquire an elite player. They are worth more because they are nearly impossible to get.
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The Blackhawks being 6th on this list is kind of a joke. They have some decent prospects, but just having Bedard as part of their group should probably make them #1 or at least very close to it.
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14 minutes ago, NAF said:
He seems like a good dude but IMO he doesn't really provide any information that, as die hard fans, we don't already know.
About the Sabres, no, definitely no new information for us, but if you want daily info about all teams around the league presented in an easily digestible way, he’s pretty good.
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2 hours ago, PASabreFan said:
But not a Sabres fan? Wearing the garb of the team he's talking about hurts his credibility IMHO.
He is just a guy who loves hockey, with a YouTube channel, 1,000 jerseys and a couple cats.
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2 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
Yes, but lots of good D over 30. Pietrangelo is 31 I think and he was vital for the Vegas cup win. Gudas was even older for Florida. Heck Johnson's 35 so why'd they sign him if you want spring chickens?
If Pesce was signed for 8 years, sure, end of that deal he's falling off the roster maybe and you might even buy him out but 6 good years as a top 4 would be fine with me.
I don’t disagree. I’m just a pedant is all.
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21 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
That was just a way of wording it and you know that. The headline move can also be a smart move. As an example, pairing Pesce with Power for close to the next decade would have been incredibly smart, would have made headlines AND we'd ALL be excited about it.
Pesce is about to be 29. Maybe half a decade, 5-6 more years, if he lucky, as a top 4 D.
I agree with your overall point, I’m just saying. He isn’t a spring chicken.
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10 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:
It's not like he was gonna be the starter they were gonna send him to Rochester. .
The deal was basically just to get the seventh overall and move up.
No, I really really don’t think so. Murray was going to occupy the role that Comrie ended up taking.
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On 7/5/2023 at 2:35 PM, LGR4GM said:
Neuchev is 5'11" but was listed at 6'2" originally.
Huh, just realized this. Darn. I had envisioned him becoming a 6’2” beastly physical specimen. A 5’11” beast just isn’t quite the same.
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Granato in a press conference today talked about the Sabres having 3 LHD (Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson) that E Johnson (and Clifton) could pair with and benefit any of them.
My takeaways were I hope that they don’t overplay Johnson too much, and also it sounds like they intend to play Dahlin on the left side.
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7 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:
I don't think it was about Murry at all. It was about the first round pick.
No, the teams already had agreed to a trade, but Murray wouldn’t waive his NTC to come to Buffalo.
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1 hour ago, Scottysabres said:
I am skeptical. Boston was one of the top defensive teams in the league last season. Buffalo, one of the worst.
While I agree both individual player as well as group growth will help, it is highly suspect to believe Clifton and Johnson are going to be the additions that stabilize the back end.
I get being skeptical. The way I look at it though, all Sabres defenders 2-8 should be improved. Dahlin may be better too, but that’s hard. Power and Samuelsson should be better, Clifton pushes down Lyubushkin and Jokiharju, Johnson adds to the 6/7 mix. Stillman/Bryson are pushed down to 8/9. Guys like Pilut, Fitzgerald, Clague shouldn’t be playing any games at all.
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14 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said:
Why do you say that?
Because the 6/7/8 guys would probably be a combination of players on their ELCs, like Johnson or Novikov, and guys making the minimum, like Stillman. Maybe one guy making ~$2M mixed in there.
6/7/8 defensemen just don’t usually make that much.
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12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
... what... what do we think a #4 looks like?
Lol, it’s been so long we don’t even know.
I know that Clifton was in the top 4 for stretches with Boston but he was also surrounded by a great defensive team. I don’t see him as a high end 2nd pair guy, but I think he’ll play fine on a 2nd pair, especially if he is paired with Dahlin/Power. I’m hopeful that the signing works out.
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42 minutes ago, Doohickie said:
I'm skeptical. I want it to work but I will believe it when I see it.
Yeah, I’m optimistic, but I kind of think he might be more of a 4/5 than a rock solid 2nd pair guy. We’ll see how it goes.
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34 minutes ago, Doohickie said:
Seems odd for you to be so optimistic.
Even if you don’t think he is going to be great in the role, I think it’s pretty definite that Clifton is the #4 defenseman to start the season.
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1 hour ago, Scottysabres said:
If we go with that we better get one hell of a 1A goalie. They'll need it to bail out that defense.
1 hour ago, Buffalonill said:Yeah I'm not excited
I don’t know, Clifton played top 4 for the Bruins for a good chunk of early last season when they were winning like 80% of their games.
Also, I think the forward group as a whole will be better defensively due to player improvement and the coaching staff’s increased emphasis on playing a responsible defensive game.
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Sabres traded that made you sad to see them go
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Briere and Drury was just gutting.