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  1. 4 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

    Edit: Fair enough.

    Though, I was correct to assume that you don't believe that part of my take, which I think is a reasonable assumption given that it's the root of the argument you didnt' like, and that you went on to say that you indeed didn't believe it. 

    Correct. I don’t buy it. I think it was an addition by subtraction situation and those closest to it wanted it to happen. Doesn’t mean I have any thoughts on where or when TP lounges in oblivion. 

  2. 3 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

    Point out one single thing I claim you said. One single thing. 

    And that's fine. You've not convinced me that the trade and its background don't stand out among any other decision Botterill has ever made, and I haven't convinced you that it looks weird. Life shall move on!

    Forgive me for not having cut and paste skills as I don’t post a lot. You’re third paragraph says “so you’re right Terry could have been lounging in Fl completely unaware...”. I didn’t mention anything other than Botterill following up on his words. No mention of TP at all. Accuracy matters. 

  3. 6 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

    Well those aren't all the words he's ever said. There were plenty of times, even through last season, he emphasized the importance of the center position and how we are privileged to be set there for years, specifically calling Jack and ROR out by name as implicitly the two most important pieces the franchise had. 

    And I'm sure he's aware of leadership transfers and upgrades that don't require gutting something you feel so important, even the ugly stripping of Joe Thornton's captaincy, which worked just fine for the Sharks, or what the Avalanche did two offseasons ago. 

    So that's why, even with that press conference, I still find it weird. And weird things happen, so you're absolutely right Terry could have been lounging in FLorida completely unaware of the decision being made. I just think it's too weird and completely reasonable for Terry to be like "hey, we suck with the guys that make our franchise look bad running into Tim Hortons, getting in trouble (Kane) in other ways, and apparently not leading, so do your thing please Jason"

     

    He did say plenty of nice things about ROR...and then he traded him. Why? You seem to believe the most likely reason is that Pegula meddled. Not seeing it. So be it. 

    Also - seems like you put a whole lot of words in my mouth. 

  4. 6 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

    Suggesting something like it, sure. I certainly don't have proof and won't claim it as absolute. It just looks weird in the set of all things Botterill has ever said and done. 

    FTR, I also wouldn't be surprised if moving on from Kane is something that was just as much desired by TP as by Jason. 

    Disagree in regards to it not in concert with his words. He clearly stated the need for change and better leadership. He acted on his words. 

    https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/jason-botterill-press-conference-recap-sabres/c-297899486

  5. 34 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

    I'm still not sure I know who believed ROR was a problem. 

    Every move Botterill makes has a distinct Jason feel to it. Sheary. Skinner. Scandella. There's one single move that sticks out as quite different from the rest, with a deadline that Jason didn't impose himself. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Terry is the one who asked nicely for the Tim Hortons guy with the bad quote in the locker room cleanout to be moved.

    Are you suggesting that Botterill and Housley didn’t have an issue with O’Reilly and would have preferred to keep him but Pegula gave them marching orders? 

  6. 43 minutes ago, SwampD said:

    What does it matter? pi was still right to be mad. He even used the term lightening in a bottle back then. Just because they actually might have doesn't make him wrong for actually just wanting an actual NHL player at the time.

    For me it’s the talking out both sides of one’s mouth and claiming it isn’t so. 

  7. Just now, pi2000 said:

    They have a lot of new players and the season starts in two days.

    They should at least be on the ice going over system stuff.     I've never heard of this... cancelling practice two days before real bullets start flying?   It reeks of incompetence.    

    Just wait until they get off to a slow start again and you'll hear all the same tired excuses... "we have a bunch of new faces, it might take some time to come together..."  blah blah blah... meanwhile Phil decides they don't need to practice 2 days before the season.   Just unbelievable. 

    Look on the bright side. It gives someone so inclined a reason to complain. Can’t believe they would give up 90 minutes of “system stuff”! 

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  8. 2 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said:

    ... and showed panic under pressure. 

    I just watched the video of all his throws and runs and saw a lot more poise than panic. He left the pocket when he was forced to or when he saw an easy run. Eye of the beholder. 

  9. It’s nearing dinner time, and I’ve neither been offended nor victimized by anyone today. Further, I’ve not discovered an ulterior motive in anyone’s enterprises.

     

    Being a simpleton, I infrequently recognize clues providing insight into nefarious character.

     

    Dear God, thank You for my limited capacity. To those exploiting me, just keep it a secret, please.

     

    In the meantime, what a gracious gesture by the Pricks. Best wishes to those who choose to attend for whatever reason they find worthy of the effort.

    Best post I've read all day. Thank you.

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