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  1. Just now, JujuFish said:

    I think it's a combination of no AFC team standing out from the crowd and Buffalo, supposedly a top team, having an easy schedule = likely high seed = good chance at making the Super Bowl.

    They’re the favorites to win the Super Bowl.

  2. 2 minutes ago, drnkirishone said:

    How was that not  block in the back on the 9 yard line?

    Looked like our guy flopped

    Just now, ubkev said:

    That was him saying "I really don't trust the defense, right now."

    Which makes … no sense.

  3. 8 minutes ago, kas23 said:

    It seems all of our prospects are blowing up. One guy I haven’t heard much about is Isak Rosen. What’s the story here? Trouble acclimating?

    Others can correct me if I’m wrong but I believe he has been getting more ice time of late with his SHL club. I don’t think the numbers or play is there yet, but the team seems to believe in him. 

  4. 2 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

    They don't produce at the SAME rate, but I think you can say their production is indeed similar:

     

    Since the start of their career, per 82 games:

    Sam:  24.0 goals, 29.5 assists

    Tuch:  19.6 goals, 25.0 assists

     

    That is just per game played. Tuch did his with less ice time and a LOT less PP time:

    Per 60 minutes:

    Sam:  0.73 goals per 60,  1.69 points per 60

    Tuch 0.76 gals per 60, 1.83 pionts per 60.

    In terms of their production, per 60 is the purest measure how how someone produces per time on ice...and Tuch is actually slightly better than Sam (but similar)

     

    Over 34% of Sams goals were on the PP. Only 19.6% of Tuch's were.  The primary reason is Tuch got about 50% less PP time than Sam. But back out those numbers....Tuch is actually a more productive scorer even strength than Sam...and with more PP time his PP goal totals would likely go up.

    Even Strength Sam produced  .193 goals per game even strenth. Tuch produced .196.  And Tuch did it with less minutes per game.

    Even Strength goals per 60:   Sam .642,   Tuch .741

     

    Overall I think it is totally fair to say they produced at a similar rate. I many aspects (most actually other than on the Power play), Tuch can be said to produce at a slightly higher rate than Sam.

    Samson’s recent uptick sets him apart from Tuch production wise. Nine points per 82 across their entire careers is not an insignificant difference on its own but Samson’s last two seasons make the gap wider.

    Per 60 is a useful stat but to use it in this context is to assume Tuch would be able to produce more and up his game with an increased role. We’ve seen time and time again that’s now how hockey works. I hope he’s able to do so, but we’ll see.

    My assumption is Tuch will have a good career here and be in the range of a 50-point player when all is said and done here. I’m excited to have him. I wouldn’t trade Samson for him one-for-one if I had the choice.

  5. 53 minutes ago, The Ghost of Yuri said:

    The point is too though, regardless of Sam's output he didn't want to be here.  I like to think Tuch will be a good complimentary piece, a veteran piece to hang onto as Okposo ages out, so to speak, to provide some mature team leadership.

    No. This is not the point. Someone mentioned Tuch is Samson. Tuch is not Samson. My point is limited exclusively to that. I did not expand beyond that.

    Your post is fine and good, but it has nothing to do with the conversation about who the better player is.

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  6. 3 minutes ago, Claude Balls said:

    I'd go as far to say that the skates nowadays are more of an advantage than even the sticks. I've skated in old and new. The difference is night and day.

    Very true. Equipment across the board has taken a huge step forward.

    Modern stars are the “best” ever because of these things. In all sports. Obviously if you transported some older players into modern times as children many would excel at a similar or greater level but just comparing one vs one the modern era will almost always be better. 20 years from now the players will be better than they are right now. Maybe not better than McDavid but definitely better on average.

  7. 2 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

    Well they are different players; they produce at a similar rate but have different manners of accomplishing their work.

    Reinhart was generally a passer and cerebral player

    Tuch uses his speed to create space and cause breakdowns.

     

    The one thing Tuch has over Reinhart is an infectious type of play that can spread amongst his teammates regardless of skill level. Reinhart’s highlights are golf clappers and thoughtful. Tuch’s highlights are rowdy cheering that get you wildly flailing your arms.

     

    Both are great; wish we had both 

     

    I know they’re different players. That’s been my point. Someone tried claiming he was Samson.

    They don’t produce at a similar rate, though. Also, Samson definitely wasn’t a passer last year.

  8. 8 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

    But don’t you think he might fit into a nice middle six role if our front line prospects develop accordingly? When Tuch is on, he’s got a great motor.  

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m excited to have Tuch. He’s not a star by any means but he’s a guy who will make impactful plays. He’s also just not Samson Reinhart.

  9. 5 minutes ago, dudacek said:

     

    To be more precise, Tuch has averaged about 20 goals and 23 assists per 82 games over his first four full NHL seasons.

    Reinhart averaged 22 goals and 28 assists over his.

    Tuch’s numbers from last season, pro-rated over 82 games amount to about 27 goals and 21 assists.

    He also has 19 goals in 66 NHL playoff games.

    He’s been a monster in the playoffs, I’m excited about that. But he’s also only six months younger than Samson. In the two seasons since his first four (meaning years five and six), Samson is pacing 32 goals and 29 assists per 82 games.

  10. 49 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

    Yeah, Perreault was sick. But could he really hit the same speeds as Connor with the same quick twitch stick handling? I've never seen highlight videos of anyone that show anything quite like it 

    No. McDavid is the first and only player with the hands and speed combination he has offensively. He’s likely going down as a top ten player all time.

    6 minutes ago, The Ghost of Doohickie said:

    Yes.

    He couldn’t. And it’s not his fault necessarily. What McDavid does and the ways to get there didn’t exist back then. The stick technology alone is a massive advantage to McDavid.

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