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20 minutes ago, #freejame said:
I would not be happy with Botts if Skinner got anywhere near 9.1. Give me Duchene and another FA if that’s the case.
Yep me neither but Botts is really jammed up against a wall with Skinner. We need Skinner more than he needs us imo. But 9mil is a ton of money to spend on a player who is valuable & a great asset but perhaps not an integral player on your team. Someone like ROR for instance you could justify spending that money. Mark Stone is another. Those players add more value to your team than a Skinner does. But if thats Skinners asking price, idk how Botts lets him walk & doesn't pay him. Either with that 8th year at the end of the term or by a higher AAV.
It'll sure be interesting to see what happens & if Botts takes the bold route & lets him walk & goes after other players or if he just pays him.
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hey it can't hurt right? At this point I support us trying anyone/anything.
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Given the lack of scoring from our forwards, we definitely need to resign Skinner, i mean he's one of the few guys we had that can score. But all things being equal, I'd much rather pay that kind of money to a player like Mark Stone, who will most likely command the same type of contract, but who has shown he can create & produce offense on his own. Whereas the bulk of Skinners offense came from being with Eichel.
Eichel is such a good playmaker, you could probably put Oloffoson on his wing next year & he'd be good for 20 goals easy. But you put Skinner on the 2nd line away from Jack & who knows how much he'd score. So is Skinner really worth $8-$9mil to your team? Or would that money be better spent on your 2C?
JBots has some difficult decisions this summer. I don't envy him thats for sure. It'd be a helluva lot easier if our supporting cast performed better. But when 50% of your forwards suck, you don't have much margin for error going forward. And you can't let players like Skinner walk without having a replacement for their production already lined up. We're pretty much stuck between a rock & a hard place imo, Skinner has all the leverage.
But like all you guys here i'm excited to see what happens this summer because regardless, changes are coming.
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1 hour ago, WildCard said:
We're gonna hire Todd Richards, book it
Yeah he was one of my early guesses when this all began as well. Fits the portrait so to speak as he was the coach of the Penguins AHL team: Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, when Botterill was the director of hockey operations in 2007-08.
Probably one of the hottest assistant coaches out there looking to get the big job & has had some pretty good success with the bolts.
I'd rather have him than Taylor. Give me Richards & Gronberg as his assistant & hope for the best lol.
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I'm watching the Toronto/Bruins game & just now Don Cherry is on Coaches Corner going on about Ryan O'Reilly again & he asked "how in the world did Doug Armstrong ever got ROR from Buffalo?"
Made me feel sick to my stomach
1 minute ago, Pimlach said:I can see it now, Tampa loses 4 straight. In the off season they trade us JT Miller, Gourde, Sergachev and a their number 1 pick for Risto, Girgs, and 50 wings from Anchor Bar.
I'll take that. Heck i'll even give them 100 wings & some free bleu cheese & carrot sticks & celery.
Make it happen!
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12 minutes ago, Weave said:
Responses to this would definitely reflect how someone values a coachs contribution the teams' success.
It's an interesting idea. I'm not automatically down on it.
Did we give up a pick for Botteril? Or was it Bylsma maybe? Am I misremembering?
Sabres gave a 3rd RD pick for Bylsma back in the day. idk if thats what u were thinking of
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4 minutes ago, Briere48 said:
And he was already mentioned about a year ago by Friedman as a possible assistant coach candidate with the Sabres.
You have a good memory https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/GARTHS-CORNER/Grnborg-Is-Where-The-Heart-Is/6/93062
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2 hours ago, Derrico said:
Another one bites the dust....and another one gone another one gone another one bites the dust.....
Hopefully 1 day soon we'll be singing We Will Rock You & We Are The Champions... instead of where we are now looking for Somebody to Love.
No doubt JBots is Under Pressure to get this hire right, or the Hammer Will Fall ?
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Chris Taylor is the coach you promote after Housley's replacement gets fired. Not before imo.
He's had 2 good years with Roch, but its not like they've been winning titles down there or that he comes with a pedigree of experience or results.
Taylor would feel like Rolston all over again & thats not what we need right now imo.
But given how JBots fired PH, i'd have to believe that he already had a replacement in mind. Perhaps not officially set in stone but at least an idea of who he'd like to bring in. A responsible GM just doesnt fire their coach without 1st thinking of who could replace them... at least i hope so.
But if he picks Taylor I think that just might be it for me & i'll throw in the towel. It'd be like we're right where we were years ago.
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Just now, Radar said:
I've already said I want someone with NHL experience as a head coach. If we're not going in that direction then let's promote Chris Taylor who already knows our players and familiar with the organization.
If we go for Taylor it'd feel as if we're just settling imo. I'd rather we go get AV before going with Taylor.
I think its best if we keep Taylor in Roch to continue learning & having success down there. Just think If he comes up here & fails then now you have 2 problems & you stunt Taylors coaching career. 1 good season in Roch doesn't make me think he's the right guy to turn the Sabres around, nor think that he's ready.
But my opinion is just one of some dude on a message board haha
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I can't believe this CENSORED CENSORED. CENSORED Chicago jumps from 12th to CENSORED top 3, while we lose 2 CENSORED spots.
Who came up with this CENSORED CENSORED system?
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11 minutes ago, SDS said:
Could you all do this in the appropriate topic and not one meant as a joke?
sorry, i had multiple threads open & posted in the wrong one
One of the drawbacks i guess of multiple threads on similar topics, even tho this one was meant as a "joke"
snicker snicker
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McLellan has pretty much coached his entire career on the west coast. His family & friends I'd imagine are predominantly on the west coast as well.
I wonder how much those other factors will work into his decision, if it indeed is between us & LA.
As much as I have no idea where he'll end up, just looking at it all it seems he'd pick LA over us. Especially if LA lands Hughes, although he may have to make a decision before then.
At least the name being mentioned today wasn't Chris Taylor lol
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3 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
Corsi makes them look better for sure, and they did have many more chances than in the previous few years but they can't finish. They don't bury those chances and as said above they just throw it towards the net and hope. This is why I question the value of over using Corsi as a measurement. Chances are not goals.
Yeah i agree, analytics & stats like Corsi only tell you so much
Those chances turn into goals when your roster is filled with more players who can finish, like if we had Draisatl here instead of Okposo, ROR instead of Sobotka. That style could work if you have the talent at forward to put those pucks in the net. Otherwise you get what we had this year, tons of games where imo we outworked & outshot the opposition, only to lose the game because the puck just wasnt going in the net.
Later in the season PH shouldve adjusted the scheme once it became clear that style wasn't working for us. But on another team with more forwards that can finish, I think that system can be pretty effective. Perhaps thats why many of us argued whether the issue was with PH or with the roster JBots assembled. Kind of like the chicken or the egg debate
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11 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
The hockey night in Canada guys on Saturday were clear and adamant that although many teams were interested in Q, he was only interested in teams where "he could see a clear path to a cup." Florida? Don't think so. Point is he isn't into rebuild situations unless he sees that they are almost ready.
Boudreau no thank you. Trots is Torts no? Tortorella. I'd like that.
Yeah Torts would make more sense than Trotz since he's with the Isles, but Trots was closer to Trotz so i had no idea which way that one was going. Torts would need to be fired though but rumor is that could happen
Thing with Q is that ive read he already turned us down once before. I read the same thing about him wanting to go to a contender, but would the Sabres be that much closer to the Cup than Florida? One could argue Florida is closer. But I'm sure theres other factors as well. Prior relationships are one thing in Florida's favor. Economics & financials are another. Salary aside, he'd pay less taxes in Florida & that's something else he'd have to factor in I'm sure.
I don't know much about Boudreau, but I know he's been very successful thruout his career. Pretty much taking every team he's coached for a full year to the playoffs, some teams that weren't necessarily that great either. Either one would be an improvement over what we've had in years & given where we've been, we could do & have done much worse.
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Also with Rikard Grönborg hiring him would make some sense since we've been stockpiling Swedes here. Plus I've read that he is really good at developing relationships & getting the most out of his players. Not only evaluating the talent of his teams himself but asking the players to evaluate themselves individually & as a group.
And just look at that photo of him above. He shows more of a commanding presence in that 1 image than what I've seen all year from PH.
Whoever it is, JBots better not screw this one up & do whatever it takes to bring his top candidate in here.
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7 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:
Q Is most likely going to Florida, further ahead in roster development most likely.
AV? I just don't know.
Trots please.
Also Coach Q has that relationship to Florida GM Dale Tallon, who was the one who hired Q to coach the Blackhawks back in the day. With how fast the news came, it would lead one to think they had been having discussions for some time.
AV I definitely wouldnt want. Boudreau would be cool if Minnesota fired him
Trots? Who's that? Barry Trotz?
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You can make arguments for both of them to stay or go imo. Like RJ is too old or Skinner fading the 2nd half of the year or having his numbers inflated by Eichel & not worth the money we would have to pay. But at the end of the day i'd like both of them to be here. They're both Sabres in my eyes & bring a net positive to our franchise than a negative.
But if i had to pick i'd say Skinner. A player is obviously more important, especially one who can finish & score, which is something we don't have much of
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While i'd obviously love to have him here, given his feelings towards his current situation, where Edmonton just got eliminated from a playoff berth, what makes anyone think he'd want to come to us? We'd probably all consider just being eliminated from the postseason now "a good season", where someone like Connor views it as a disappointment & must look at what Eichels been going thru here & be thankful we didnt win the lottery that year.
Any discussions about trading for McDavid are just pure folly really. But yeah its nice to dream
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29 minutes ago, Curtisp5286 said:
Last season, Smith voted by NHL players as #1 NHL assistant coach who should be hired for next HC vacancy.
Why do you think he’s not the guy for Buffalo right now?
1 thing i found interesting from that article was this quote: Other highlights for Toronto of the NHLPA poll, taken between training camp and Jan. 6, put Babcock fourth among coaches they’d like to play for at 7.5%, back of Joel Quenneville, Jon Cooper and Gerard Gallant.
Interesting to see so many players polled named Coach Q as 1 coach they'd like to play for. That says something imo. Same for Smith but at least with Coach Q you know he's respected. Even though i read a couple weeks back that Chicago fans aren't really missing him & have warmed up to Jeremy Colliton.
The more we lose like we are, it just seems theres more writing on the wall for PH to go. Idk if a coach like Quennville would even want to come into this situation, but a younger guy like Smith or Keefe who is hungry to break into the NHL might be willing to take a crack at it. Thanks for sharing the article!
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4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I don't think Back To The Future is a good idea.
Me neither really. But in all the fire Phil threads & posts, rarely will you ever see anyone come up with a solution or replacement, hence why I was asking for other potential coaches we could bring in. Its one thing to fire Phil for the sakes of firing him, its another thing to bring in a quality coach who can take us to the promise land.
If anyone ever does name names, Coach Q is the name most spoken. Then McLellan or Vigneault who I wouldn't want. And then you'll hear Sheldon Keafe once & awhile, who hasnt ever coached in the NHL before & i really dont think we need another rookie coach right now.
Just curious if anyones got a potential coaches name to hope for haha
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Those of you who want PH gone, given Pegulas respect for ex Sabres at the helm with PH & JBots, do you think they'd look at bringing Ruff back to coach?
And #1 would you want Ruff back here & do you think Lindy would accept the job?
Ruff may not be a great x's & o's guy, but he wasn't a mannequin behind the bench & his teams always seemed to be disciplined with regards to the system & played hard. Even though i think the game has passed him by at this point. Btw it just goes to show how bad things have gotten here to even consider it.
I'm just thinking of who i'd want here to coach. I'm not a big fan of most of the available coaches out there. Maybe Quennville since he's an intense guy or Rikard Gronborg who's the coach of the Swedish National team since we have so many swedes here lol.
Just curious what you guys thought as a replacement, those of you who want to go that route.
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just from watching this season progress (regress), it just feels to me that around christmas this team needed an injection of help. Whether it be Oloffson or Nylander or from a trade. And when that didnt happen, our top line slowly disintegrated, either from the pressure of having to carry the whole team or from exhaustion, or a combination of the 2. By the time the trade deadline came & went & no offensive help came this way, its been going thru the motions til this season was over.
I don't think PH is the reason our season has gone downhill. If anything I blame JBots for not recognizing you need more than 1 line that can create offense. He must really be firmly committed to his 3 - 5 year process of developing players thru the draft & Rochester, because there were opportunities out there I'm sure to bring in another forward or 2 to help with our secondary scoring & he trades a 1st for Montour.
I just hope with how bad this season has ended it'll light the fuse upstairs that we need to be more aggressive in adding more talent to this team. And if theres a better coach out there than PH then by all means i'll take it. I just don't know who that coach is atm.
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ive seen Okposo cough up the puck at the blue line that exact same way at least 50 times this season
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Rochester Americans 2018-19
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I have a link to a 1080p stream online if any of u guys want it. Just pm me. I just remembered a few minutes ago Roch was playing tonight so i missed most the game.
11 minutes to go in the 3rd, down 0-2. We need a comeback!