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Adams roster defining trades - How do we feel about these deals and the Sabres because of them?


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1 hour ago, DarthEbriate said:

It's early in the morning. Let's quantify this! That will give Adams the benefit of the doubt in his leadoff big roster shakeup because he received many more assets than he gave up. For scoring, I'll keep it simple, even though the range should be much greater (Eichel is more than 5 above a player who never made it to the NHL, for example). The points also reduce the noise of "what did they do to retain X" -- which could cause massive issues with just evaluating the trade (i.e., think if Kesselring and Doan both pull JJPs this coming summer and refuse to sign and get moved for future lesser returns...).

Points:
5=unquestioned top line/1st pair
4=2nd line/2nd pair/1st rd pick
3=3rd line/3rd pair/2nd rd pick
2=4th line/depth D/3rd rd pick
1=AHLer/4th-7th rd pick
0= never made it to AHL/future considerations.
Bonus points: +1 for cap relief (because theoretically it gives you opportunity to do more for your roster).

 

1) JJP -4 = Kess 3 + Doan 3 =    +2   (Kesselring was a 3rd pair who played up, and Doan is a 3rd liner around the league at this time -- likewise, JJP isn't a 1W in most scenarios at the time of the trade and isn't with Utah now)
2) Coz -3 + future 2nd (-3) + Gilbert -1 = Norris 4 + JBD 2   =  -1    (but based on GP would = -6)
3) Sav -1 = McLeod 3 + Tullio 1  =  +3     (top 10 pick should equate to 4pts, which would = 0)
4) 2nd -3 = Malenstyn 2 = -1
5) Mitts -3 = Byram 4  = +1      (Byram is on BUF 1st pair, but around the league he's a D3/4)
6) 7th -1 = Rob +2 = +1
7) 2nd -3 + 5th -1 = Greenway +3 = -1
8] Bloom 0 = Stillman +1 = +1
9) Eichel -5 + 3rd -2 = Tuch +4, Krebs +2, 1st +2, 2nd +3 =  +4    (strictly asset for asset, and here is where you know that the 5-point tier should really be weighed as 10, but again, to give Adams as much credit as possible in just swapping assets. would = -6)
10) 0 = Butcher (1) + 5th (1) =   +2
11) Reinhart -5 = Levi 1 + Kulich 3 = -1   (If Reino is also a 10, this would = -6)
12) Risto -3 = Hagg 2 + Rosen 2 + Wahlberg 1 = +2   (jury still out on Wahlberg's ceiling)
13) Montour -4 = Sardarian 0  = -4
14) Hall -4 + Lazar -2 = Bjork 1 + Kisakov 0 = -5
15) Johansson -3 = Staal 3 = 0

So, giving Adams the greatest benefit of the doubt, based strictly on assets in and out, that's a.... +3.
Or, going by the grading system, equivalent to a 3rd line player, 3rd pair D, 2nd round pick. That's the net difference. That's what Adams has accomplished in 5 years with a team/system bursting to the seams with top-10 pick talent.

Instead, you know they're down 2 elite players that would be change the entire complexion of the franchise if they had stuck with them, hired a real coaching staff, and had proper guidance on basic roster construction (sign a Zucker-type, draft your own Doan types, sign a true goalie tandem, etc.)

The easiest way to do this is to stack all the players and picks that he traded on the left side, and all the players and picks he acquired on the right side. 

Just look at that and you can see Adams gave up much more than got in return.  

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