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9 minutes ago, Thorny said:
Looking back, trading ROR away was absolutely disastrous for the team. It led to that core collapsing, Botterill being fired, and an additional 6 years (and counting) in the wilderness since. How one could look at that trade and not call it terrible is beyond me. You are just guessing with no real logical backing that keeping a good player wouldn’t have mattered. Whereas, we KNOW we’ve been terrible since and we KNOW the lack of forward depth led to the collapse of that roster, Eichel and Reinhart and Ullmark leaving, and the lack of depth we still see today: because we are still in the process of rebuilding
Your argument respectfully isn’t a very good one. “They didn’t do anything here so it doesn’t matter that we dealt them.” By the same logic we can trade Tage today because we haven’t amounted to a single playoff berth with him. This is what you are actually arguing: worst case scenario is that we are bad once we move him, right? Which, as you laid out in your argument makes the trade inconsequential, as we merely maintain the status quo. No harm no foul. You can see once broken down like this it doesn’t make any sense.
When will people learn and except it’s the *collection* of talent and about building depth, and a team? “We never won anything with Eichel and ROR”. You mean, when Eichel was 18-20 years old and we were literally recovering from a scorched earth tank?
Be serious for a minute
I label it as a bad trade immediately because Ryan O'Reilly was a great player on a bad team and won a cup as soon as he got traded. What have the Sabres done? Nothing.
Cup win > no playoffs = lost the trade
Not only that, why do you have to trade a guy that says he losing his love for the game? Why is the only answer to get rid of him immediately? Why couldn't Botteril work with him to try to ease his discomfort? Maybe he did, I'm not sure. But O'Reilly wasn't wrong. The team was highly dysfunctional.
It all starts at the top and unfortunately nothing has changed
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Good win. Just start with a small streak. Even a five game winning streak puts them right back into it the thick of it.
UPL looks great, imagine if he keeps this up. A good goalie can carry a team, we've all seen it.
I'm not giving up yet
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28 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:
There is an underrated name there, I love his game and he's been rumored in trades. I'd love Jenner on the Sabres for sure!
The Sabres could sure use some guys like this. Looks like he'd beat the piss out of anyone who even looks at him sideways
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1 hour ago, GoPuckYourself said:
I don't think Tampa Bay would have any interest in this deal imo, he is one of their best 2 way forwards and they're vying for the playoffs. Dylan Cozens would be a massive downgrade just to save a few million bucks.
Probably look to trade with a team ready to tear it down is the more realistic option.
Boone Jenner
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Wow, PerreaultForever got the whole thread mad. Lol
The playoffs are wide open this year. Any team remaining has a great chance
Start with a win tomorrow. Go Bills
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Make a trade to a team at or near a rebuild.
Just spit balling, but how bout something like Cozens, a 1st for Braydon Point. Might take more or less I'm not a trade expert.
I feel a rebuild coming for Tampa. Let's get someone with playoff experience who's always reliable
Adams has the necessary tools
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3 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:
Whenever Cozens has to think with the puck it is ugly
The WHOLE TEAM over thinks with the puck. Especially on shot attempts. Just brutal
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Peterka was awful today. Awful. He had at least 3 fans on shot attempts. Probably more
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1 minute ago, DarthEbriate said:
Clifton... you had all the time in the world to... sky it all the way to the opposite end? Make sure you get the change there.
Took a puck to the stomach and was clearly hurt, him icing it guaranteed a whistle and a stoppage of play. There was nothing wrong with him doing that.
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Just now, JoeSchmoe said:
Is Quinn our best F?
No
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Just now, Big Guava said:
His save percentage is .916. We are making him look far better than we need to.
You say .916 like that's bad or something. That's not insane but it's upper echelon, easily.
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UPL looks solid granted the Canucks only have 14 shots, but still.
Sabres holding they're own in an entertaining game so far against a very good team. Gotta solve Demko he looks good, too. Resurgence year for him.
Tie it up. Plenty of time left
Has an overtime feel to it
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Vancouver started off hot but the Sabres have turned the tide. Clearly outplaying them now
Get the 1st goal. Do it
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He should have traded for a goalie last year. Still should this year
How long can he bank all of these prospects and picks though, seriously.
Makes some trades already
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1 hour ago, Thorny said:
8 loser points would get us to 96 points and a likely berth. There are 8 five-game segments left, so if we go 3-1-1 every group of 5 games we’d likely make the playoffs but not for sure. 3-1-1 per 5 the rest of the way is a 115 point pace
And a .700 points %
They need more loser points. They had 7 last year, which is on the low end. 2 more loser points and they're in the playoffs. They only have 4 this year, I consider that low end.
Benefits teams like the Islanders who are clearly less talented than other teams but they have 10 loser points already.
Also helps to have Sorokin and they do not change their structure.
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Definitely not a good thing. Skinner has his detractors around here, but he's at least been a consistent scorer.
The Sabres can't have any more injuries if they want to go on a run. I'm more concerned with who they replace him with. I guess it's Oloffsson who I personally don't care much for, but it's better than some 160 pound rookie.
Time for a trade
Come on Adams, nows the time. He's had legitimate opportunities with these random injuries. He could inject some life into this team and the fans with a solid trade
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8 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
and you should be sorry!
I would love for Robinson to be an impact player, but I just don't think he is.
2 hours ago, Taro T said:3-3-1 this season in them.
Getting outscored 25-20.
Yep, feel the mf'n power.
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3-3-1 is still better than 15-17-3
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2 minutes ago, Pimlach said:
Ryan Johnson, a rookie, should be playing over Joker.
Agreed and that's why I said 3 minutes a night. Was referring to the likes of Savoie, Rosen.
We need more grit, not more "fancy" guys
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The coaching staff needs to keep this grittier lineup together. No more Oloffsson, no more rookies playing 3 minutes a night.
Keep the balance. Then they might see some actual change in the win column
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10 minutes ago, CTJoe said:
UPL was good, 3rd goal was very weak, otherwise solid.
Atrocious giveaway by Cozens to set up Giroux for a perfect slap shot 5 hole, along the ice. Nah, not a bad goal given up by UPL there
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Just now, GoPuckYourself said:
He would kick the ***** out of everyone not named Greenway so not sure who wants a piece of him.
Would probly whoop Greenway, too. Greenway doesn't even fight that often
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6 minutes ago, Getpucksdeep said:
Fair but can we talk about Dahlin's play?
KA added Clifton and EJ on the blue line and they have been as advertised / expected. Very nice compliments. (toughness, physical, and veteran leadership)
Dahlin has been a huge disappointment. He is the single biggest problem on the team. I don't know what the solution is, unfortunately it's looking like he's Risto-esque.I think it's far too soon to say that. Besides, Dahlin is 10x better offensively/defensively than Ristolainen could ever be.
Or do you mean he is simply going to request a trade soon?
Agreed on Clifton and Erik Johnson. They're doing what they're suppose to do
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I fully understand the original poster. It truly is a bummer when your teams stink.
I dont know about you guys, but when the Sabres win it just makes the rest of my life seem easier. Menial tasks aren't so menial anymore. It's such a great feeling seeing your team win.
And it always stinks when they lose. 12 years is a lifetime in hockey.
Here's hoping the full and unquestioned rebuild actually works. I'll be ecstatic when it does
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4 minutes ago, inkman said:
At some point, hopefully soon, GMKA is going to need to figure out how to build a team. Tough decisions will be afoot.
One would figure he should know how, already.
He was a hard working 4th line type of player, when he played. He was on a cup winning team. Out of all the GMs previous during the last 12 years, he should theoretically have the most knowledge when it comes to building a team.
That Carolina team was balanced top to bottom. They added key players at the trade deadline. Was there a little luck involved? Yes. Cam Ward was unbelievable during those playoffs. Im sure even they had no clue he'd be that good. I think they benched Gerber at some point, too.
Add in some awful injury luck for the Sabres as well.
The point still stands, that formula still applies. Even today. What is Adams doing? Not enough.
And he doesn't seem to realize it. Shame
Worst trades in Sabres history?
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