dejeanerret
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I see offense coming back in a deal for Risto.
JT Miller or Tyler Johnson
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Eichel Skinner and Reinhart have 95 points between the 3 of them.
Rest of the team has 159.
KO, Pommers, Middlestadt, and Sheary have dropped off the face of the earth.
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13 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
I'm not posting the link but will post the tweet, they clearly want clicks. Don't go to the site. Never go there again.
Trade is: Patrick Kane for Reinhart, Pommers, Ukka-Pekka Lukkonnen, Brendan Guhle, Victor Olofsson, and 3 first round picks. (Buffalo's first this year, SJS pick this year, and then STL Blues pick next year).
I will never go to the Hockey News again for anything. The fact the rest of the people didn't immediately call this trade absolute garbage is shocking. Discuss.
That is the worst trade idea in the history of trade ideas. Reinhart is ranked 3rd on the team in scoring, so giving up so many assets for Kane doesn't fix the Sabres lack of 2nd hand scoring. Kane is also 10.5 AVV for the next 4 years until he is 35. Not sure he is going to live up to that deal.
I would do a deal that involves KO, Thompson, Guhle (both youthful D and F), and a 1st. But that's it. Anything more is absolutely ridiculous to consider at his salary. Must be a Hawks fan.
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1 hour ago, nucci said:
Having Rob Ray constantly talking while the game is going on doesn't help. RJ has to wait for Ray to shut up and join the play while game is going on. I remember one time Ray was talking and couldn't finish his thought in time and a goal wasscored...I remember the old days when the analyst would only talk during a stoppage
I agree with this. But his goal calls last night weren't his usual jump out of your chair good. An OT winner like that and he would have killed that call. But you can tell on the Risto winner that RJ was winded. Part of the fun of watching the game was RJ's goal calls that were over the top. Still love the guy though and hearing that voice. Better than Dunleavy.
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He actually had a better start last year, netting 5 goals and 11 points in the first 10 games. He went into a funk and then was demoted to 2nd and 3rd lines. So we'll see how the rest of the season goes.
But he should at least match last years 16g/18a/34p with this years improved talent. The sticking point with him has always been his price tag. Half the salary and he's a solid value for his production and leadership.
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Everyone in Vegas is so jacked that the Knights re-signed a 33 year old Marc Andre Fleury to a 3 year $21 million extension after paying him $5.75 million this year.
He'll be 37 at term's end, and this after he had a horrible year in Pittsburgh right before coming to Las Vegas. I keep telling everyone that the Knights were competing against themselves, and even if Fleury had the same season this year, no way another team is going to give a 34 year old goalie a $7 million AVV extension over 3 years. That being said, the chances him mirroring last season aren't good, and I"m predicting a Fleury buyout before his contract expires.
And we signed Carter Hutton for less than half the price. Bots is brilliant.
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Yeah it was the shot block. He stayed with it to get his first though.
He'll be fine.
First win! First time .500 or better in season since 3/27/17. Go Sabres!
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Great piece on him from Stars Site. Seems like he fits the Bots/Housley mold perfectly.
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from Rotowire:
One of a number of young prospects to get their feet wet in the NHL last year on an injury-plagued Stars roster, Elie held his own in a checking-line role over 18 games in Dallas. The 22-year-old lacks the skating and creativity to ever be a real offensive threat, but his effort and compete level should make him a useful energy player down the road, and his hockey IQ will allow him to chip in the occasional big goal as he finds himself in the right place at the right time.
Seems to be a young Scott Wilson minus the playoff and SC experience. Probably a guy they'll be able to safely move down to Rochester (that is, if no one else put in a waiver claim for him). Otherwise he could be getting an 8 week audition until Wilson returns and they'll have to make a decision.
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https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/127847/remi-elie
23 years old. 14 points in 72 games last season, his first full one. Interesting move. Nothing on paper that jumps out other than he's young and learning the game.
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It's been a hard camp, documented by the players and media.
To have a day before the season starts for the team to come together, further solidify their chemistry, and blow off a little steam is a great idea.
Housley is a hall of fame and well respected former player. He gets it.
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If true, a lot of fans with #15 jerseys are gonna be pissed.
Not only jersey owners but jersey makers left with standing inventory
I think players have to give a years notice?
Anyone know about that?
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File this thread under “Fire Beane” after they traded Sammy and Darby.
Waste of time
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I think they can absorb it!
You are correct sir.
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You lost any credibility with your first sentence. ROR ‘s cap hit is the same for the league year. The bonus meant he arned it all in one day. It didn’t double.
yeah were past that. Whether it's a cap hit or paying $7.5 million cash for a player that is on another teams roster makes no sense, which is why Bots said the anti would go up after tonight. If that's all you got out of the post then I can't help you.
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I just thought and hoped that our league-worst bottom six could have been upgraded without trading Ryan O'Reilly, and that if push came to shove and it was actually "culturally important" to trade Ryan O'Reilly, we would aim higher than actively pushing for Tage Thompson and taking cap dumps to do it.
Who is saying actively pushed for Tage Thompson? He may have been pushing for Thomas or Parayko and the Blues wouldn't budge.
I get it though. I would have loved to hear Parayko's name. But I honestly believe Bots did the best he could, and to grill him otherwise isn't right. The keys to this are the two first round picks. Sobotka and Berglund are additional assets that are still productive NHL players and are better than the crap we have floating around our bottom six.
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They also got rid of Lehner.
Yup.
I honestly think things go on behind the scenes that us fans aren't privy too.
I remember someone posting that they ran into Justin Falks parents at a resort and they said they didn't like Housley becuase he doesn't hold the stars accountable.
I see this as Bots moving those pieces. The next is Larsson. I'd be shocked if he's in a Sabres jersey next season. I hope he plays in Europe. Good riddin's
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Just seems very strange to me that JBot would take on contracts for players that no one else would want when trying to rebuild. All of these players (Hunwick, Sobotka, Pominville and Berglund) cannot be in our long term plans, yet account for more than $15 million of our cap. JBot has received very little in return for agreeing to take on these salary obligations. Add in Bogo and Okoposo for another $11 million in cap and you have a total of six players with about $26 million in space that are untraceable.
I am really worried that JBot is in way over his head.
or this could be a housecleaning knowing that he has the cap space to eat dirt for a couple of years to clear out the crap and put competitive players in their place.
He was Rutherford's right hand man for many Stanley Cups. I trust his judgement right now.
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I like a lot of what you wrote, but I think Thompson starts the season here.
You could be right. If he does then it's a $832,000 cap hit. Adjust accordingly
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1) I do think he would have if he could have. That he couldn't is one of the prime reasons myself and others hate the deal. Unlike Kane, who was poised to walk as a UFA, we had no compelling reason to have to move O'Reilly for poor value just to get some value.
2) That's not how the cap works. We could have paid O'Reilly the bonus, then traded him, and had him on our cap for zero dollars.
Why would we pay a player $7.5 million and then trade him? That's stupid. Whether it counted towards the cap or not, it doesn't make sense.
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Some people on this board crack me up.
You act as if Bots was given a choice between Parayko, R Thomas, or Berglund and chose Berglund. Rumors sites all week have been listing Parayko and Thomas as possible pieces. Don't you think if he could have gotten Thomas or Parayko he would have? It's obvious that Bots did his best to include those pieces, but the Blues woudn't budge. Even Bergevin in Montreal told the press he was out of the running for ROR, and that Bots wanted to much and to call him when he lowered his price.
Had Bots waited a day to pull this deal off it would have been (EDIT: $7.5 million of free money he was giving away to pay a player no longer on his roster.) The fact he got what he did with the Blues knowing that was a coup in itself. He HAD to do a deal today. It didn't make sense for him to pull a deal off later this summer.
He had to deal a player who mailed it in on many nights. You can quote me all the defensive zone starts and analytical BS all you want. If you have a guy that has a $7.5 mil AVV, he has to be part of the solution, not the problem. He has to be a leader, kicking guys in the butt each night saying get it together. Leading with his work ethic during games and in practice. A guy at the end of the season like Jack saying we ARE going to fix this and I'm going to be part of the reason why. Not moping and whining about how he lost his love for the game.
Instead of being that rock, he was a guy that the younger players looked at and said, "well if he can mail it in so can I".
Frick, he was coming off two seasons with the Avs where he averaged 22 goals and 37 assists at 24 years old and (forget about $7.5 million) the Avs didn't even want to pay him $6.2 million. Why? Because he had fallen out of favor with the coaches. He was soft. They saw what we saw this season. So they traded him to Buffalo for what ended up being not much.
Sorry, but with all of his analytical BS, goals, and assists, the Sabres finished in last place. It's not like he was carrying the team on his back. On the contrary, he was showing our youth through his work ethic that it was OK to not give it your all each and every night, even if your one of the top earners on the team. That's not acceptable in a professional sports environment, period.
I look at it as Bots acquired assets. I applaud the fact that we got two 1st round picks. Say what you want, but Thompson is an unknown, and it's not like he's 22 years old with barely a sniff of NHL experience. He was 19 when last season started.
A guy like Sobotka he can play solid 3rd line center minutes and his goals and assists matched the sorry pair of Larsson and Girgensons combined minus the whining about wanting out of Buffalo from Larsson. Berglund's goal total last season would have placed him 5th on this sorry a$$ team.
There is no knowing who actually will be suiting up in Buffalo come October. There could be more moving parts and some of the guys acquired today may be gone tomorrow. But this deal had to be done today, and Bots moved a player that he knew he had to move. He got the most he could, and all you couch potato GM's can complain all you want. It's all white noise. I'll take the haul, and I'm excited about the direction of this team and the culture and players that Bots is building in the locker room. We have some young studs, and it's only a matter of time before our core starts taking this team to the next level.
Anyone fed up, the Maple Leaf Bandwagon is taking applications. Get your JT jerseys while they're hot.
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At least we got more for ROR than the Islanders got for JT
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Rutherford in Pittsburgh is doing some pretty dumb stuff but yes calling all those people is a good idea. Keep calling.
How about Benning in Vancouver. He’s handing out millions to players with Girgenson stats
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So if you trade out Parayko for Thompson In this deal is their a more favorable reaction for Sabres fans?
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With Risto being shopped heavily I can see potential move with TB or Minn.
JT Miller or Johnson for TB, Zucker for MIN
All have term. All can play solid 2nd line. All similar contract numbers.