Thorny
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2 hours ago, Marty said:
To each his/her own. I love baseball, watch every Cleveland game I can. To me it’s not boring at all. To me, soccer is the most boring sport. You kick the ball, I kick the ball, back and forth, with about 3 total minutes of action where there’s actually the slightest possibility of a goal. Baseball has elements of team play as well as one on one, pitcher vs batter. Any pitch can result in a score. Any number of possible outcomes every batter. And having one superstar guarantees nothing, because if the superstar is a batter he only bats every 9th time and if he’s a pitcher he only starts every 5th day. Unfortunately the Dodgers are killing this aspect, as they have a zillion dollar team of superstars. But in theory it’s a great game to me.
Baseball is the most cinematic sport. The intense close ups, every moment built up..
no kevyn Adams…
I absolutely love it
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18 minutes ago, Sidc3000 said:
The question I have after seeing this post is, did the Sabres never track or emphasize off season workouts? That would explain why several players seemed like they were not in shape or developed further in the off season when a new season began. That’s could be why several players are consistently injured like Muel and Quinn.
The Sabres are always like, “this year we learn to play defence!”
“this year we learn to play as a team!””this year we’ll work out properly in the offseason!”
they aren’t in the business of winning, they are a tax write off
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3 hours ago, Carmel Corn said:
I almost think he’s a bit cocky too about himself….and certainly with no reason (based on his results). He has stated multiple times that he “knows” what it takes to win, but he and only he (and Terry) actually believe this to be the case.
That’s why I never understand the people that will carry water for him just because there are other incompetent people around too. He’s not likeable. I have no comment on him personally but as a general manager he comes off like a smug, arrogant doofus
This event represents a low point in my 38 years as a fan
I’m not sure they realize how tone deaf they are
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I reckon our ceiling is around 24th for this season, I think we can get there. 5 teams (Philly, Seattle*, Boston, Pittsburgh, outside shot at Anaheim) I’d say we can reasonably catch. 4 of which we have a better goal differential than*.
Of course this is most notable re: draft position. Could see us picking around 9th if we finish strong
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Also Norris makes 8 million dollars haha. It can’t just be addition by subtraction/Sabre must really believe in him
not that otherwise is suggested specifically in this thread but I’ve seen it
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1 minute ago, Hawerchuk said:
Hey, Sabres can move into 9th place in the East with a beatdown of the Penguins and a Philly loss tonight. So there's that.
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Just now, LGR4GM said:
Adams barely can think 1 step ahead, let a lone the 3 or 4 needed to make an NHL function.
The last thing he’d want to do is lay out actual goals because then he could be evaluated against them
He has the concept of a plan
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1 hour ago, dudacek said:
More than most that video avoided the true story here.
This trade wasn’t about the Sabres deciding they needed Josh Norris; it was about the Sabres deciding they needed to move on from Dylan Cozens.
It was pretty clear between the cuts that an organizational decision had been made that they wanted to move Cozens and that he was being shopped around the league for the best return. This was a building block player they had signed to a $50M deal just two years before.
- We didn’t see the debate leading up to the decision Cozens had to be moved
- We didn’t see how he was being shopped and what the other offers were
- We didn’t see the debate about those offers
- We didn’t see the other players who may have been shopped for similar reasons
My takeaway is that discussions upstairs have centred around figuring out why their plan has failed and what they need to do to fix it.
”Culture” seems like convenient code for “players we might have been wrong about”. And they do seem to be leaning on Lindy as a bit of an external arbiter for those decisions, since he doesn’t own them.
Tim Murray got fired in part because he apparently was surprised by his own mistakes and had no plan to pivot.
Not sure why we should expect Kevyn Adams to be any different.
We didn’t see everything, but what we did see did not look like a confident bunch.
That’s embarrassing if true
identifying things that don’t work is the only easy part. If the return doesn’t matter nearly as much, they aren’t focusing on the actual building blocks of winning.
This is repeated behaviour with Adams. Cut Skinner, worry about rest later. Don’t sign Ullmark, worry about goaltending later (still worrying). Now this
No need to identify a solution in a timely matter. The vacant hole on the roster can be filled with development
The actual plan
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1 minute ago, Flashsabre said:
I see both sides. Misa is having a terrific season and has already won a Memorial Cup. If Buffalo got the first pick and took Misa I wouldn’t be mad.
I see both as well. The fact it’s so close in my perception and it’s difficult to honestly say who ends up better is why it makes sense to me to select the player who makes it much less likely we need to swing a trade for balance. A trade under the domain of Terry Pegula
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Was beginning to get cold feet on my stated intention to step away if Adams was retained upon missing 5 years straight and this really reminded me why I decided that in the first place
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6 hours ago, Thorner said:
I’m not sure what deserves revolt if not this
Development isn’t a straight line?? It wasn’t a development year. Odd talk from a guy saying playoffs were the mandate this year
More than that, it’s completely insulting.
They are making this too easyWhat are the ups he’s even speaking of? Does he get it’s a young team because he made it so? Does winning ever actually matter?
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*WITH A YOUNG TEAM?!* You built it this way! Year 5!
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This is the GM of a last place team that has averaged 75 points for 5 years without making the playoffs, on top of 9 straight years missed before that which on its own equals the NHL’s longest playoff drought besides our own:
“Not that far away. I could help the roster.”
Can’t write this crap
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I’m not sure what deserves revolt if not this
Development isn’t a straight line?? It wasn’t a development year. Odd talk from a guy saying playoffs were the mandate this year
More than that, it’s completely insulting.
They are making this too easy-
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9 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:
PHI and BOS are cooked and purposefully mailing it in; the Sabres have 2 games in hand on Seattle who have a vicious schedule of playoff teams looking to get home-ice in their opening round (DAL, EDM, LAK). There's a good chance the Sabres drop all the way to 8th in the overall selection.
How apropos
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3 minutes ago, K-9 said:
My mutiny has nothing to do with Pegula doing something to fix the team or not. My mutiny is beyond repair at this point. He’s played me for a sucker for too long and even if he fixed everything overnight and wins a cup next year, I will NOT renew my season tickets, I will NOT buy individual game tickets, and I will NOT spend another dime on merchandise. He doesn’t give a flying F about me as a decades long ST holder and won’t be sorry that I won’t renew.
Change can be excruciatingly slow, but if you pull back the perspective far enough, you can see its progress. I don’t believe things haven’t changed at all. Too many I know anecdotally, even if that’s only two people, who watch much less than before. Some fans indeed are hitting breaking points and it’s reached a level I personally haven’t seen. More speak of apathy than before. I drew a line at 5 years of Adams and I’m interested to see how that unfolds
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6 minutes ago, dudacek said:
What battle are you talking about?
The battle to get the GM fired? The battle to get Terry to do something? The battle to keep your self invested as a fan? You’ve got power in all those areas.
If you’re talking about the battle to fix the Buffalo Sabres you have about as much power in that battle as you did in the Sabres win last night.
And no, that doesn’t mean you should stop trying. I may disagree with how that can manifest itself, but I don’t believe that even the biggest eeyores on this site have done that.
When the obstacle is the mere changing of a human mind it’s never an unthinkable pursuit. I mean 12 angry men is one of the best films ever. We won a hockey game against Vegas because of the united choice of several thousand booing Hertl - this actually happened.
Of course getting Adams fired could lead to the team being fixed. If you randomly shuffle the deck it won’t likely come up ace but you have to be pretty unlucky to get the Joker
Speaking nothing of accountability. And the message it may send. Adams should be accountable
we have gone down the wrong road if we are willingly calling accountability pointless just because it may not get us what we feel is personally owed
how sad that would be
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Game changer gap between 2 and 3
Doesn’t matter where we finish, will need some luck to grab a top 2 spot
just win the games you can and make a good pick if you can’t trade it. You are going to get someone “good”, and so are a whole bunch of other teams, too. A top 2 could represent a little bit of quicker gained ground if we are lucky, both to get the pick and after
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1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:
I think you are confused. I don't think fan apathy will force Pegula to do anything.
Could make him shift his thinking on firing Adams
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9 hours ago, tom webster said:
This take is from the same Canadian “insiders” who couldn’t understand how Buffalo gave up Savoie for McLoud. They have inflated opinion of guys that they were formerly high on.
Buffalo gave up a second in 2026 because they got the two better players. Time will bear that out. One thing for sure though, no one will now how good that second round pick will be for five years.
The two better players?
5 hours ago, PickaPecaPickles said:Are the Sabres the only team in the league with 4 first round picks on their D (2 picked #1 overall)?
[One might also consider Samuelson a R1 pick too since he was taken at #32.]
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Utter defeatist bs in this thread
shout it from the roof tops. Don’t give in. Show your spirit. Don’t keel over and die because some will call you silly for trying.
it’s not about convincing anyone and never has been. It’s about demonstrating that it’s not good enough. That in YOUR heart it’s not good enough.
the battle is only truly lost when they’ve convinced you you can’t win it
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1 hour ago, Weave said:
Y’all are so behind. I was mutiny-ing before it was cool.
Leading edge, baby.
“The eye-brow was the sign!”
John Tortorella fired by Flyers
in The Aud Club
Posted · Edited by Thorner
Adams thinks Yzerman is a great GM. Right on track in Detroit, he says