Thorny
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Johansen for Jones. I don't think we see more of these deals because there are rarely teams with excess centers and excess defensemen to trade.
Good one, forgot this deal.
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What established center has been traded for an established defender?
O'Reilly for Zadorov? ;)
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No worries
Per Corey Pronman the Devils maybe leaning towards picking Cale Makar First Overall
Serious question: After the draft concludes, which selected player has the highest value league wide?
It's gotta be Makar, right? Take him first overall, it's a good play.
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Good wingers don't = good defenders.
Centers certainly equal defenders
But that's not really bearing itself out in the current market.
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It's poor value for Edmonton, but such is life with Chiarelli as GM.
Also, they were never going to get Hamonic for Eberle. Good forwards don't have near as much value as good defencemen, currently. Being shown time and time again.
You want a good Dman? Draft him.
You want a good forward? Draft a Dman.
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Smart teamA horrifying proposition
Not high on Tippett either? Or was that sarcasm haha.
I want a defender at 8, but if a guy like Glass falls, sign me up.
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if you think about it he protected Lowry or Perreault, not Enstrom or Dano.
Or Copp.
It's not a horrible deal by any means, but I'd have preferred they stayed at 13 for a shot at Valimaki who I am high on.
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Per Brendan Klak it's Eberle for Ryan Strome
Haha. Eberle is better.
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Hall gone, Yakopov, Eberle...wow. That about clears out the stench of failure there, eh?It's like an annual rite of early summer: EDM trades a highly-pedigreed forward for a good d-man.
They probably keep Nuge, right?
Must be nice to win the lottery a million times...
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I think Tippett is going to be our pick, for whatever reason. Just a guess from what I've read. I've advocated for not drafting him, so I'll have to come around on him, I suppose.
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We are a better team today, because of expansion, than we would have been today, without. That's a solid win for me.
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It's expansion. Everyone loses something. If you are lucky, it's a complimentary depth player. That's what we lost. Meh.
Expansion is also what facilitated the acquiring of Beaulieu.
I know I'd much rather have Beaulieu than Carrier, a 3rd, and 6th.
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Yes. Except ROR's jersey. The dude sweats, what can I say?
:lol:
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Are the pit stains definitely gone on the new jerseys?
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The Jets moved back 11 spots in the 1st, and gave up a third, to protect Enstrom. That's a poor decision.
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I don`t understand how the best pure goal scorer in the draft has bust potential. Yes, he is a Kessle clone and that will infuriate some but no one is questioning his hockey sense, skating or shot.
Tippett will score a lot of goals in the NHL, I have no doubt about that.
Cause he can't play defence or pass.
At this point I'm happy as long as we don't take Tippet.
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A) You have no idea that that is true. But fine.
B) He missed as many games as you are complaining about last year, and still led the team in scoring. I'm sorry, that's what he is. I'm not talking goals per game, or goals per minute, or 5v5 production, or some theoretical standard that we feel like holding him to; the man scored more goals than anyone else on the team. He gets that belt until he doesn't have it any more.
C) This doesn't affect this year.
I'm not trading him out of fear that he won't sign. Guys don't re-sign all the time. You don't always HAVE to trade them.
This is all mostly besides the point. I'm not taking a bag of pucks for him just because he MIGHT leave NEXT year. And neither are you. Obviously there is a minimum price that you would accept. Would you rather have a 7th round pick, or Evander Kane for a year? How about a 2nd rounder vs. Kane for a year? A second and a D prospect or Kane for a year? A first by itself? There is a line, wherever you want to place it. and all I'm saying is to stick to that
I think this season should be all about making the playoffs and that means if you can't get good value for Kane this summer, and are in playoff contention in March, you just keep him and see what your team can do.
I agree. We need to start making playoff runs now.
All of this.
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Gorges is done, his skating has gotten slow.
Bogo might have some redemption but will never be worth his contract.
This is where I'm at, too.
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I have to think it's #2 for #6 and some other stuff. Still nutty, but not as nutty as #2 alone.
Makes more sense.
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Pens should have called McPhee's bluff.
Definitely.
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That doesn't make sense.. if VGK signed Fleury he'd be considered the pick from the penguins right?
LeBrun saying on Twitter that since the list if available goalies is strong, Pens had to entice Vegas with the added Pick.
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I'm not a fan of the numbers on the front. Those were the product of the same Larry Quinn focus group sessions that gave us the slug, and they still remind me of that era. It seems like it was an attempt to promote fans/TV viewers associating players with their number by sticking the number right next to their face. However, the number on the front of the jersey became completely unnecessary once they added numbers on the helmets in ~2011. They seem redundant now and clutter up an otherwise clean design. I'm surprised to see the support for the numbers here, given the prevalent desire to go back to a more traditional jersey design. Would you all be alright with them going to old jersey designs and throwing the front numbers on there?
I'm disappointed they decided to maintain the status quo with the jerseys (especially the striping on the whites), besides the obvious move to get rid of the pit stains and piping. I agree that they are likely waiting for the 50 year anniversary to do a more thorough overhaul of the jerseys. I wonder if part of the decision is waiting for the team to be better, so that they can launch new jerseys when people are more excited about the team, and so that people associate new jerseys with a better product. It would be interesting to hear the decision making process that goes into the timing of team aesthetics, with considerations for branding, etc.
I'll jump on the bandwagon that the WC whites are some of the best.
Smart.
Let's hope the people in charge of this are, too.
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Montour is my man crush in Anaheim
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/lebrun-non-vegas-nhl-trades-ready-unleashed/
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/dreger-avalanche-strongly-market-defenseman/
@mattsekeres (Vancouver Radio Host)
Not sure if this is out there, but rumblings that #VegasGoldenKnights could acquire #2 overall pick from #Flyers via their expansion bounty
Yea I'm good with losing one of the unprotected guys. These deals being announced are nuts.
If the Flyers give up #2 to protect a player, they are nutty.
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I have been wondering too. I'm not saying Gorges and Bogogo are going to turn it around, but HHDCRGDDB's style of play certainly was a good way to expose some players weaknesses. Bogogo had gaffs but I hope he can make the right decision when it's just to make a 10 foot pass to any of a couple skating forwards. Gorges is in the same boat, although I'm not sure he'll be able to skate well enough to truly attack as a 5-man unit.
If Beaulieu and Antipin can hold down the second pair, I'm willing to give Bogo a shot on pair 3. I'd preferably still like to upgrade Gorges, though.
Expansion draft and league-wide wheeling and dealing
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Which makes pigeonholing Reinhart as a wing even more baffling.