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  8. Rumors and Speculation Part II

    in The Aud Club

    Posted

    The expansion draft "starts" on the 18th.     Protected lists are due on the 17th.     Their "picks" will be announced during the NHL awards on June 21st.   

     

    The Cup Finals game 7 is the 14th.   So that leaves the 15th-16th for deals to happen before the "draft" officially begins.     And I believe there's also a league wide trade freeze starting on the 17th-20th.  

     

    The rules also say they have a 48hr window before the draft to sign FAs... so is that 48hrs before the 18th?   Or does that start on the 18th as well, since they announce their picks on the 21st.

     

    So we are looking at Thursday and Friday next week for action, supposedly. If the finals end Sunday, could be busy all week.

     

    That's if the rumoured frenzie comes to be.

  10. The other sports thread

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    Is it really all that impressive though? It's like the Dream Team beating up on nobody's 

     

    Having your league that lopsided and completely unwatchable for that long is just insane to me. The NBA is so concerned about players being rested affecting their ticket sales, and meanwhile only 10 games a year are actually important and fun to watch for the average fan

    I get you, but I wouldn't say they are beating nobody's. Lebron is a top 5 player of all time. 3-time Champ, best player in the league right now. Sure, everyone else on that team besides Kyrie may be letting them down, but the Cavs were absolutely dominant in their own right until they ran into GS.

  11. Rumors and Speculation Part II

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    I would bet after the expansion draft

    Apparently the frenzied market is supposed to be arising in large part due to the presence of the expansion draft, so those prognosticators predicting such would have us believe that a large amount of deals will arise in the time period before the expansion draft.

     

    I guess we'll see. As others have said, should start when the finals end. But something tells me that the analysts predicting the busy market may have overstated things.

     

    It's so hard to make trades in today's NHL.

  13. The other sports thread

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    When I was in little league, my neighbor and best friend (I was the best man at his wedding) and I were pitching against one another in the championship game. In the first inning, one of us hit the other on accident. Not to be out done, we continually hit each other every single time we came to hit, for the entire game. This went on until the last inning, where the bases were loaded and he was up (I was pitching). Well, I couldn't just let him win this game of hitting each other, so I said ###### the game and drilled him one more time.

     

    100% worth it.

    :D Awesome.

     

    The Cavs-Warriors were pretty evenly matched last year, and it was flippin awesome (they were probably evenly matched two years ago too if the Cavs had had Kyrie and Love healthy). The Warriors then added Kevin freaking Durant, at worst the third best player in the league. The Cavs added...the decaying carcass of Deron Williams and 6th man Kyle Korver? Bleh. As a basketball fan, I'm just sad we've been deprived of a true runner match. And I say that without any animus towards Durant or the Warriors--I'd have done the same thing in their shoes.

    The worst part is I don't think there's any obvious move the Cavs can make this offseason to even it up again. Best hope for competition next year may be the Spurs adding CP3, and hoping Kawhi doesn't go down in game 1.

    100% spot on. I'm still trying to enjoy the watch, as we are witnessing true greatness from the GSW, but it does seem a little lopsided.

     

    Still, there's been amazing talent on display. Lebron is still the best player in the world. Durant is #2. He's amazing.

    I haven't heard anything about LeBron going to LA. And why would he? They're in even worse shape.

    They already have a bunch of max deals, but they were spaced out smartly enough, with some under the previous CBA, to not be problematic. Though I think both Curry and Durant are due new deals in the next couple years.

    LeBron did not start the super teams, he was only the most prominent to do it. Hell, we don't even have to go that far back: KG and Ray Allen to the Celtics.

    Was just gonna say. The Celtics did it recently, before Lebron. If Lebron's "talents to south beach" was a different animal and an evolution of that, Durant to GS represents an equal scale evolution. This is a 73 win team adding Durant, a guy who took them to 7 games the season before.

    The Clippers are in worse shape than the Cavs, minus LeBron?

     

    So the NBA is basically unwatchable for the next 3-4 years

     

    I remember that big 3, but it pales in comparison to the LeBron Heat and current Warriors

     

    With regard to the bolded, I alternatively feel that way. But other times I remember that the chance to see athletic greatness is a big reason we watch sports, and the teams and players that achieve that create the moments we remember.

     

    Golden State, in the big picture, is on a run everyone will remember for a long time.

  14. Rumors and Speculation Part II

    in The Aud Club

    Posted

    I was never big on Vatanen.

    Don't get me wrong, he would immediately be our second best defenceman.

    But he's too much like Risto (without Risto's edge)

    We need a guy who can complement Risto, or a guy who anchor a shutdown pair and pick up some of his defensive minutes.

    Vatanen is neither of those guys.

    He's going to cost. I'd rather pay a high price for a different guy, or a smaller price for a lesser guy.

    Maybe a guy like Brodin, with a Brodin - Antipin second pairing. You'd think he'd be cheaper, but who knows. Haven't heard many rumours lately surrounding him.

     

    It's looking like it's going to be quite difficult to achieve the required improvement on defence. Hopefully Botterill can pull something off in the lead-up to the draft.

  15. Rumors and Speculation Part II

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    Posted

    I'd still be thrilled if we got Vatanen. Him missing time might be great for us, as he might just be a little cheaper.

     

    That's very true. But I bet that's more than offset by what likely becomes something of a bidding war for him. I do very much like the looks of:

     

    McCabe - Ristolainen

    Antipin - Vatanen

    Guhle - Bogosian

     

    Mustn't get my hopes up.

  16. Rumors and Speculation Part II

    in The Aud Club

    Posted

    Before the surgery announcement I would have been all over the idea of going after Vatanen, but now I'm not really liking the idea of going after a guy who is likely going to miss the first month or so of next season. Perhaps that's too short-sighted on my part.

  18. Reinhart, does he fit JBots mold?

    in The Aud Club

    Posted

    We know that Darcy would've looked up nervously from his coupon-clipping and quickly shaken his head no, while GMTM would've hastily spilled his pint while sorting through a pile of credit cards to find a couple that weren't maxed out.

     

    I expect JBott will plot a middle course.

    Good stuff.

  19. Reinhart, does he fit JBots mold?

    in The Aud Club

    Posted

    Samson would be better off signing next summer after his 60 point season

    Samson comparables coming off their entry deals:

    Huberdeau spent his post-draft year in JR, then put up 31*, 28, and 54 point seasons

    He signed a two-year bridge deal at $3.25 per (*was the lockout season)

    Seguin signed for 6 years at $5.75 after 22, 67, 32*

    Johansen 3@4 (JR, 21,12*, 63)

    Nugent-Hopkins 7@6 (52, 24*, 56)

    Landeskog 7@5.6 (52,17*,65)

    Galchenyuk 2@2.8 (27*,31,46)

    Yakupov 3@3.75 (31*,24,33)

    Barkov 6@5.9 (24,36,59)

    Drouin RFA (JR, 32,10,53)

    Lindholm 2@2.7 (21,39,39)

    Monahan 7@6.3 (34,62,63)

    Bennett RFA (1,36,26)

    Draisaitl RFA (9,51,77)

    Reinhart (JR,42,47)

    Would it not make sense for Botterill to try and lock him up at a discounted rate then, this offseason, before a breakout? Or do players in his tier usually always go to RFA status first?

     

    As opposed to a guy like Eichel, who'll almost certainly get extended this summer.

  21. Rumor: LA Kings interested in Evander Kane

    in The Aud Club

    Posted

    If he won't re-sign reasonably, I try for a deal during the season.  I do not trade him for a draft pick over the summer.  I'm not sure I even trade him for a draft pick in February--and certainly not if they're in the playoff race, which they should be.  Again, there is value to saying to the other GMs, "###### you, I won't be had."

     

    Let's not forget that this team isn't just about 2019 and 2020.  It's also about next year.

      

    I'm responding*only* based upon the premise that the Sabres cannot get anything better for him than a draft pick right now.  If that's the best they can do, then why not ice the team they have and see how well they do? Why settle now?

    Yup, I'm in agreement.

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