Thorny
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We should have seen this coming anyways. Botterill drafts Americans and NCAA commits.
I'm think I'm good with the pick.
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I don't think it says anything about his hockey ability necessarily. But I'll give you that it's pretty ridonkulous that a 17 year old kid athlete can't do a pull-up.He's going NCAA which means the Sabres can lose his rights very easily.
He can't do a ###### pull-up which means he might never play in the NHL.
I'm guessing, I don't speak for Saratoga, but I'm guessing these are the ways he got to that place.
But again, don't think it affects his hockey future one way or another
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Excellent. Now that that's out of the way, we can move on to bigger and better things...like panicking over Mittelstadt leaving as a UFA.
(We all know it's coming from someone, somewhere, and sooner than later)
What did he say about Sam?
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Also take into account that if Reinhart is centering line 3, he's going to be getting favourable matchups, necessitating less skill on the wings than if he played, say, second line.
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Take your medicine now, let him go through that development cocoon, to emerge as that beautiful butterfly.
Sam Reinhart does have a non-zero chance of developing into a better player than ROR.
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You haven't said why at all. You have said move Sam to 2nd center, which means ROR moves to wing (I assume). I am asking why you would move the better center to wing.
Short term pain for long term gain. The idea that Sam Reinhart, a guy drafted #2 overall and led the WJC in points, on a team with the likes of McDavid, has the ability to develop into a better offensive centre than ROR.
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Get the wingers and I'm open. you can't do it in a vacuum though.
Cliff Pu! Maybe.
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The Sabres unfortunately are heavy in LW with not much on the right. Unless they can flip Kane for a competent right winger, they are going to have to make do. It does not change that the Sabres are waisting time by continuing to jam O'Reilley and Reinhardt into the wrong positions.
We are stronger organizationally on the right.
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Holy hell.Per Washington Post
Caps re-sign T.J. Oshie for eight years. AAV of $5.75 million.
On the plus side for the Caps, "Skin Irritation" is written into the 5th year of his deal.
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If I could remove the notion that all skill players need to be crammed into a top-6 from everybody's brain and throw it into the abyss, I would. We have three centers. Why not run three centers?
Slow clap.
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would you hold onto Kane to try make play-offs this year? trade at deadline if they are out of contention. If they are in the race, come the deadline, let him potentially walk for nothing?
I think I would, unless someone knocks my socks off with a deal.
Agreed.
If his value right now is a 2nd and B-prospect, that's probably his value at the trade deadline, right? Though a player's value is usually highest right now, I'm not sure that holds for Kane. We could try to make a run and still get value if we fall short, or even if we're on the bubble (for instance, maybe Nylander is ready in spring) without sacrificing the run. Though I'm fairly certain trading Kane if we're on the bubble would cause a board crash :lol:
This is where I am at as well. I'm not outright opposed to dealing Kane, I just probably put more value in a season-long rental than most, particularly if his current return is ballz.
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Yes, but you only have Evander for this coming year.
We don't know this for a fact. If true, he absolutely won't sign, I'd ship him out only for the right return, still.
A season of Kane has a value to me.
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A. Can't make someone sign, he has to WANT to forgo his best shot to get a big payday.
B. You need to trust him over a 7 year term. Do you?
If this were a Cup run year I'd agree with you. It's not. Kane has to be moved. Preferably today.
Don't agree here. Can foresee a deep playoff run in the next 2 seasons (see, Ottawa) if they continue to fix the D.
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A. Can't make someone sign, he has to WANT to forgo his best shot to get a big payday.
B. You need to trust him over a 7 year term. Do you?
Can't speculate on A.
B, I would, for a non-outrageous amount.
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Except you won't have to pay him 6.25 x 7 next Spring.
The plus being he can play now.
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Sounds like Evander Kane, really.
Yup. Sign Kane, he's ready now.
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Only if our defense proves to be holding us back from ever taking the next step, and there's a trade that makes a ton of sense.
Fair enough.
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Oh boy - I wouldn't make that comparison lightly. That's best ever Sabres territory.
Fine. Roy/Vanek
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Mhm, and I think the overwhelming majority of cases show young 21 year old high draft pick high hockey sense players taking steps forward in their career at this point, not falling back, and if I were to think otherwise then that would cause a slippery slope and make me quite paranoid about Jack, who's already close to his physical ceiling and doesn't quite have the hockey sense of Sam. OEL - Hammer is a sick Swedish top pair. Goligoski is still there. Chychrun can take a step forward. They're all left handed, but Hammer plays the right side better.
Curious, if Sam does break out, do you lean towards trading him or keeping him?
I just hope I don't have to go through an offseason of overreaction to moves or lack thereof.
Boy, have I got some bad news for you :p
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How dare you amicably disagree. This is the internet, dammit!
Damn. Right, sorry. Reading your arguments, you are clearly on peyote.
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Sextacular signing.
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Can't we live in the now a little bit? Do we always have to be planning three years ahead? I want to see this team make the playoffs and win a series.
Or just keep him? Why are people so eager to see him traded?
Not to speak for Eleven, but I am pretty sure his point is, irrespective of ability to sign Kane, why trade now and potentially sacrifice actually winning games for a change.
I tend to agree with it. If we all think he's not garnering a team need or a blue chip pick, the value we waste isnt all that high really, is it? So lets just start winning and let the chips fall where they may.
I'm on this team with you fellows.
Blue, your side is well-reasoned as well, don't get me wrong.
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Jack's contract has the potential to be a bit of a bargain in a couple years
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The Isles asking price for Hamonic is 2 1st Rounders
Per Dreger
Gtfo
Sabres pick #8 Casey Mittlestadt
in The Aud Club
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We got the 3rd ranked NA skater by CSS. Can't be a bad thing.