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I think Stamkos wants out of Tampa. He doesn't get along with the coach and this is a terrible market for a star. This town thinks about hockey for 3 hours on game night. That is it. I was in a sports bar during the Finals and i suddenly heard a loud roar. I thought i missed a goal. I did - Orlando scored in the soccer game half the place was watching.

My situation was unique. 13 is different than 15. However, there is a reason kids drive at 16, drink at 21, etc. You can't let whether the kid enjoyed it or not fair into the equation. He is a minor. He will realize as he gets older how twisted it was. A kid should never be put into that position. Whether he wants to be or not. There is a reason children are called children and adults are adults. I am going to put this in kind of a over the top way. JJ - if your 15 year old daughter WANTED to and HAD sex with a middle aged man how would you feel? She still wanted it. She was still willing. You would want to kill him. If your 15 year old son slept with your wifes friend or his teacher you would expect that female to be held to a different standard than the man? Would you pat him on the back and give him a "that a boy - you take after the old man".

I will answer it for you. A 48 year old adult should go to jail for having sex with a 15 year old. Doesn't matter the combination of participants. I doubt anyone in this discussion feels differently. If you do then you have a problem.

Again I want to thank you all for your support. Last night i laid in bed and wondered if i should have put my personal history out there like I did but when i saw that X and Hank also posted their experiences i was glad i did. I don't know about you guys but I am REALLY ready for some hockey talk. :)

I totally understand where you are coming from. Society has very much made the young kid with the older lady kind of a joke. I honestly never realized how twisted and crazy it was until my kids hit 13. Then it kind of hit me how young i really was and how i would probably kill a woman of she did that to my kid. Whether he was willing or not. We are a strange society. Between all the free porn sites that anyone can watch to reality shows (on channels and at times that kids are up) based on a neighborhood that is nothing but swingers it is no wonder we are where we are. Here is another one for you. I have 3 boys. Everyone of them has received some form of nude pic from a girl at school. Of course, they think it is funny. My wife and i find it sick. We have beat into their heads that no matter what you do DO NOT return the favor. Number one is the obvious. Number 2 is because coming from a girl she gets reprimanded. A boy sends them to a girl be gets arrested. Like i said - we are a f'd up society.

I appreciate all the kind words. Kind of weird that of all places I kind of let that one out in here. I just really want everyone to understand this is a very broad and touchy topic. Nobody is right and wrong in this thread. Rape happens in many different ways. It affects people in many different ways. My ordeal doesn't even compare to what a woman must go through. Let's face it - at the time in my mind i wasn't a victim. Again, in a crazy way, thanks for all the discussion in this thread. Kind of helped in a way that is hard to describe.

Guys /Girls this is getting way too deep. There is a rape culture and it goes both ways. I mentioned way upthread to TrueBlue that maybe I would decide to tell him exactly how much i know about rape. Well I was raped. In the eyes of the law I am a rape victim. Now i will get personal and explain the situation and you can maybe have a better idea of how "rape" is a subject that is very widespread. And quite honestly, it pisses me off to no end to read this thread and listen to some act like they know more than others. When i was 13 I had sex with a 24 year old relative by marriage. This went on for almost half a year. Nobody but a few of my friends knew about this. Too them, and to me, it was cool. About 20 years later (I am 45) i finally confronted her at my grandmothers funeral. I think i was just at very emotional moment in life and had to ask WHY? I explained to her the impact that her stupid ass decision had on my life. I asked her how she could go day to day wondering if I would decide to make what happened public. 2 years later this lady committed suicide. Of course I have that too live with. At that time i told my mom. For all those years nobody knew. My mom was very close to her and when I told her she did not seem overly mad. It was more of a "you should have known better" What? ? I was 13 - show me a 13 year old boy that "would have known better". Well, I know i am rambling and i am sorry, but, had I been a girl, most likely the reaction would have been very different. Rape is rape and as I have watched my kids hit that 13 year old age all I can think about is "how could anyone do that too an innocent 13 year old". How in gods name could a married 24 year old woman take from me what i should have experienced with someone i cared about at an age that was a little more appropriate. So, this is why i don't agree with settlements. This is why I want a rape victim to stand up and do everything in their power to make the rapist accountable. However, I also know that this isn't the way it works. I also know that rape is something that, no matter how, when, or where it occurred, it will live with the victim their entire lives. Maybe she was hanging on him, maybe she should have known better to go back to his house. Blah blah blah. If Kane did anything to her against her will then be needs to be hammered. I could care less how many Cups, how much money, or who his stupid ass lawyer is. And I sure as hell could care less about his EA Sports freaking cover. Thanks for letting me ramble. I know it was all over the map but just trying to give a different perspective.

We butt heads on a lot of topics but this is your best post ever. Kuddos for saying what you did.

I have 3 boys 13-18. All say FB is for old people. Instagram and Snapchat are what they use.

I went to edit my post and hit delete by accident. Don't feel like retyping. You pretty much said what i was. Kane didn't hire a cab driver. He hired a bodyguard. Most likely to keep him out of trouble. Doubt he was looking for an off duty running mate to cause mayhem.

It happens everywhere and is totally within department regulations. I have officer friends who do it all the time. They also work in a lot of nightclubs - that one i am not too sure about.

If this girl was indeed assaulted i feel horrible for her. One because of the obvious, and two because this case isn't going anywhere. Money and star status get you a free pass in a lot of things.

Agreed. I would hope that most people's idea of a hero is not a hockey player.

I think you are dead on with this. I am sure that there are many more that get exactly what is being said. A select handful like to argue and knock people down regardless the thread or topic.

PS. I knew who you were talking about. Some of your are very predictable. It is a shame that EVERY freaking time a couple guys have to derail threads with name calling. I have never called you a fool. Yet you feel it is OK to call me one from behind your keyboard. The 90% of people on here that can go back and forth in debates and voicing opinions don't need people like you calling anyone fools.

You don't think law enforcement speculates? Of course they do. Then they investigate. So since I am not a detective working the case I will speculate until I know otherwise. Is this unique? Am I doing something that nobody else does? Speculation is everywhere in all aspects of life. It is what we do. Especially on forums.

I think you are overanalyzing my post just a tad. That was way too much work on your part to critique my viewings of Criminal Minds. I get the legal process. I get the investigation part of it. I get that life isn't TV show. I did, however, stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night so please don't push me on this.

You just made a fool of yourself. Nicely done.

Yeah that is what we are all doing. Getting our rocks off!! If that is the best you can do and this thread annoys you that much bye bye. Don't waste everyone else's time with your constant degrading posts. Your act has grown old.

Why is it a train wreck? A lot of people posting with various input and opinions. Just because we all don't agree with what each other is saying doesn't make it a train wreck. What does is when people start trying to tell people what they should and shouldn't think. The reality of it, and this is sad, but if the Sabres announced that they traded Girgs this thread wouldn't get a post for a week.

I said I was a Criminal Minds junkie not a lawyer.

Total speculation on my part. Just think this is how it played out and will play out. I have absolutely zero evidence to why other than case history.

Being the Criminal Minds junkie that I am I an ready to give my "profile" based on what we currently know. The victim was most likely drunk and hanging out with the subject. The subject knowing that when he invites previous females back to his house is expecting sex - not a tour of his lovely home. The victim, most likely drunk or not capable of making a sound decision agrees to go back to this house. The subject initiates what he came home for. The victim either allowed the subject to have sex with her - without her true consent - or told the subject NO. The subject, not used to being told no and always getting what he wants, proceeded anyways. In his eyes he probably felt it wasn't rape - more like "what did she think we were going to do". However, to his surprise what he did was wrong and should be arrested for it. However, it is so difficult to prove all of this he will most likely walk. As always profiles can be wrong but this is what I am going with.

When I am back in town mighty, a beef on weck, and an Amherst Alehouse pizza are the first things on the agenda.